Florida Panthers beat Toronto Maple leafs 4-1, advance to ECF

[TheGoldenJet]

He just sent a text to his agent.

"Get me the F* out of here."

Woll’s agent responds:

“Give me 6 hours to negotiate a seven figure deal with Doobler before he’s fired, then we’ll request a trade.”

 

[AvroArrow]

So the Reilly shot was a goal, where did these new camera angles come from this morning? We can clearly see now that it went in immediately. Before the play was dead.

The angle was available last night as well, referee ruled he meant to blow the whistle before the puck went in. Which still doesn't really make sense, but I guess by the rules it does ? Idc though to be perfectly honest, people can bitch all they want about that puck going in or the Gudas holding the stick penalty. When Matthews and Tavares combine for 0 goals in a series, you don't deserve to win. Plain and simple.

There was a similar play to that in our series vs Tampa where the officials called it no goal even though the puck went in, because of precisely the same thing. Ref lost sight of the puck and meant to blow it dead.

I'd rather hold our players accountable as opposed to the refs. Cool refs blew a couple calls. Now tell my why our top 2 centers, both getting paid 11M, both #1 overall draft picks, a 60 goal scorer and a 40 goal scorer, couldn't score a single f***ing goal in this series ? If these guys were able to score even ONE goal between them, this could very easily be a 3-2 series right now going back to Florida.

Complete losers mentality blaming the refs when your teams "core 4" were complete f***ing no shows.

 

[AvroArrow]

For my fellow leaf fans here's another cool statistic about our core and why I can't defend their failures anymore. They've had enough chances, you simply cannot get outworked every single year and bitch about the result. Out of all of the teams we've seen in the last 7 years the hardest working one was the one being coached by Babcock. This is a player personnel, culture, coaching problem.

2017 - The hardest working team won the series
2018 - The hardest working team won the series
2019 - The hardest working team won the series
2020 - The hardest working team won the series
2021 - The hardest working team won the series
2022 - The hardest working team won the series
2023 - The hardest working team won the series

This is not a skill issue. It's a lack of commitment and lack of effort issue.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The angle was available last night as well, referee ruled he meant to blow the whistle before the puck went in. Which still doesn't really make sense, but I guess by the rules it does ? Idc though to be perfectly honest, people can bitch all they want about that puck going in or the Gudas holding the stick penalty. When Matthews and Tavares combine for 0 goals in a series, you don't deserve to win. Plain and simple.

There was a similar play to that in our series vs Tampa where the officials called it no goal even though the puck went in, because of precisely the same thing. Ref lost sight of the puck and meant to blow it dead.

I'd rather hold our players accountable as opposed to the refs. Cool refs blew a couple calls. Now tell my why our top 2 centers, both getting paid 11M, both #1 overall draft picks, a 60 goal scorer and a 40 goal scorer, couldn't score a single f***ing goal in this series ? If these guys were able to score even ONE goal between them, this could very easily be a 3-2 series right now going back to Florida.

Complete losers mentality blaming the refs when your teams "core 4" were complete f***ing no shows.

Who do you think gets shipped out? Or let go?

Dubas? Keefe? Some of the core(nylander prob makes most sense in terms of being replaceable and easiest to move while still having good value)

 

[Laus723]

I keep reading Toronto needs to trade for a player like Tkachuk…

Um. Like a guy that is a finalist for the Hart?Yeah. Sure. Every team has two guys like him. They grow on trees. Toronto should trade Timmins and a 6th rounder for him.

Toronto should also trade for someone like Makar and someone like Vasilevskiy. Maybe pick up a Kempe and a Pavelski and why not a Rantanen too. Dubas should get a bunch of guys like them.

Lol, of course there’s only a handful of a few players like the guys mentioned here, but sometimes goals can be achieved by bringing in more than one elite player at once.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

How can you say that while admiting they missed a call leading directly to the goal?

That's just how the POs are. Every team gets screwed at some point and crying about it won't change anything.

When it happens to other teams you don't feel it like you do when it happens to your team and because the leafs have so little PO success their fans don't have much experience with dealing with PO reffing.

 

[Icarium]

It's all Marchand's fault for not scoring on the breakaway in the dying seconds of Game 5. The dedication of this man to screw the Leafs is truly something to behold.

 

[DueDiligence]

Bush league non call. Amateurs on Twitter are able to see it clearly cross the line before "the play was dead" but these guys cant. Enjoy your fake win though. I cant respect it.

Well unfortunately the Leafs have lost. But Florida respects them.

 

[BB88]

Samsonov was shutting out Florida with the Leafs up 1-0 in Game 3 when he got injured. Woll came in and allowed a goal right away for Florida to tie it.

Murray was injured at the start of the playoffs and round 1, he hasn't played a game in months - that is why they put Woll in who played more recently.

Woll was the better option than Murray, however - neither is their starting goalie.

How many teams win the Cup with their starting goalie injured? I'll wait. You're acting like every team is supposed to have 2 starters in net. Of course there will be a dropoff between the starter and backup.

Even Boston was scared to play Swayman until Game 7 even though Ullmark was allegedly injured. Edmonton keeps starts Skinner even when he got pulled 3x. Most teams don't have 2 starting goalies.

You know who brought Murray to Toronto and that everyone knew Murray can’t stay healthy?

Samsonov won zero games against Florida and let in softies every game

You sure as hell didn’t lose this series because of Woll

 

[DueDiligence]

I keep reading Toronto needs to trade for a player like Tkachuk…

Um. Like a guy that is a finalist for the Hart?Yeah. Sure. Every team has two guys like him. They grow on trees. Toronto should trade Timmins and a 6th rounder for him.

Toronto should also trade for someone like Makar and someone like Vasilevskiy. Maybe pick up a Kempe and a Pavelski and why not a Rantanen too. Dubas should get a bunch of guys like them.

Toronto could have traded for him last year like Florida did. Except Dubas doesn't have the balls to make a big deal like that.

 

[Master P]

Bush league non call. Amateurs on Twitter are able to see it clearly cross the line before "the play was dead" but these guys cant. Enjoy your fake win though. I cant respect it.

My favorite part is where Bob has his pad PUSHED into the net.


No goal.

 

[swiftwin]

How many teams win the Cup with their starting goalie injured?

Bruh. Everyone said Murray was super injury prone before the season started. It doesn't count if your dumbass GM goes and acquires a super injury prone goalie and goes *shockedpikachu* when he's injured in the playoffs.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Florida players certainly heard it. Bulletin board material? Tkachuk had a wry smile in this interview.

 

[JimmyApples]

This is absolutely rich.

After getting all the calls this playoffs, the Leafs are blaming the refs in a series that was over in 5

Point scored after the play was deemed dead, didn’t hear a peep from Toronto. Hagel high-sticked in the final moments, didn’t hear a peep. Massive penalty differential in the Panthers series, didn’t hear a peep.

I called Panthers in 5 since the series was determined. Tampa had officiating, luck and time against them. Leafs are lucky to have even made it this far.

 

[AvroArrow]

Who do you think gets shipped out? Or let go?

Dubas? Keefe? Some of the core(nylander prob makes most sense in terms of being replaceable and easiest to move while still having good value)

IMO Marner is the guy who needs to go. He doesn't work hard enough and is invisible when games get physical. I've been trying to look for options to trade him for, can't really think of anything. Nylander is a legit 1RW and actually shows up and will be cheaper. I'd attempt to re-sign Matthews, ship out Marner for help around the roster. If Matthews doesn't re-sign before July, you gotta ship him out as well and rebuild. Far too risky to play out the last year of his contract to UFA. But Marner is a big name, he's the hometown kid and a huge part of this core, they need a real shakeup.

The core going forward should be Matthews/Nylander/Rielly/Lily/Knies/Woll, you build around those guys. Once Tavares' contract plays out, you either re-sign him for cheap or let him go. If he wants anything over 6M let him walk, he's done nothing in the most important part of the year to suggest he deserves a big contract. The culture overall needs to change, especially with management. f*** the players feelings and forget being friends with them, the commitment should be to the team and building a championship team, not maintaining a relationship with the players. It's like when the boss is just a friend in the workplace, it breeds complacency.

I can see Keefe/Dubas/Shanny all being let go after the draft, I think it would be dumb to ship them out now and then bring in a gm pre-draft who isn't prepared. I'm torn about Dubas though.

 

[Beezeral]

Bush league non call. Amateurs on Twitter are able to see it clearly cross the line before "the play was dead" but these guys cant. Enjoy your fake win though. I cant respect it.

Seems like someone needs a refresher in what parallax view is

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Morgan Reily should be captain of this team. Tavares has done nothing in his career in the playoffs. Overrated captain who just doesn't have it.

 

[Quickdraw2828]

IMO Marner is the guy who needs to go.

Never draft a guy who looks like a cross between Peter Brady and Malcolm in the Middle

 

[roon]

From what I could tell - Toronto forgot how to pass the puck in this series. The amount of turnovers was incredible from them. Generally beaten to the puck - lost virtually every board battle.

Soft all around team. Mentally and physically.

 

[southsideIrish]

Toronto failed because it's their nature to fail. Despite the resources, tradition, etc, first trip past the first round in many years and they acted like they won it all. The team was sloppy, soft and careless throughout the series and Florida was much better. I picked Fla in 6 but am surprised it wasn't a sweep.

Whining about refs and no-goals when you got spanked in five games by a "non-traditional sun belt team" makes it even more pathetic.

 

[ijuka]

Bush league non call. Amateurs on Twitter are able to see it clearly cross the line before "the play was dead" but these guys cant. Enjoy your fake win though. I cant respect it.

Yeah, well two things:

1. The red line is below the ice, so when using a perspective like this, the objects are on different vertical planes. This causes the puck to appear to be further than it really is.

2. Refraction caused by the ice causes the red line to appear closer to the camera than it actually is. The optical density of air is around 1, while for ice it's around 1.3. Hence, you don't see directly forward, what you see is actually angled slightly down.

For example, if light hits the ice at a 45 degree angle, then it becomes around a 57.5 degree angle. So if the ice is 1 inch thick, the red line will appear to be around 0.28 inches closer than it actually is.


As a result of these two factors, using such an angle is not possible for determining whether the puck crossed the goal line, at least when it's that close.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

They've passed Tampa, now just need to get past Florida.

Ummmmmm......I am not sure how to break this to you but it is over.



This parrot is no more, it has ceased to be.

 

[1 Timer]

Is it that strange that a team who is a year removed from the Presidents Trophy is moving on? They had a tough regular season yes but the talent was there.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

"We want Florida" is becoming the new "You forgot Poland!"

 

[Just Rude]

You trying to sneak an extra win in this series for Leafs that I don’t know about?

Your original post said their playoff record was 5-7. They lost four games to Florida and two to Tampa. 2+4=6. It’s not hard. Honest.