The crown doesn't have to prove that everything was non consensual. They have to "prove" that something was. Plus, in sexual assault cases, a credible testimony is enough proof. That said, can the jury be swayed even if the testimony is credible? That's a tough question. Wealthy abusers get away frequently from good cases and a pliable jury.
Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges
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I'm shocked at each of the player's involved. Came out of left field.
Sources confirm NHL players facing charges in sexual assault investigation | TSN
Four NHL players – Carter Hart, Michael McLeod, Dillon Dube, and Cal Foote – have been directed to surrender to police in London, Ont., to be charged with sexual assault in connection with an alleged incident that occurred during a Hockey Canada event in the city in June 2018, two sources...www.tsn.ca
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Uhm I’m pretty sure knowing you’re about to be charged with SA will f*** up your mental health. Why are people so worked up about that tweet? Clearly the process of having to answer for your actions will affect you mentally. So it’s not a lie. Dube has also been pretty Garbo this year, it’s evident this situation has affected his play
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The omission of information is a lie. This is getting into pedantic territory; sure the PR release can TECHNICALLY be correct in a bubble, but that really doesn't matter when you add in the additional context to show that it really isn't it.
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You're kidding, right? First, yeah, I'm sure having to take an indefinite leave of absence because you're being charged with sexual assault causes stress -- but the big lede there isn't the mental health reasons causing the departure but rather that he's having to go to Ontario to be arrested and charged, y'know? Seriously? So sure, it's not a technical lie -- but it's incredibly misleading.
This also now will no doubt raise questions every time players do take genuine leaves for mental health. Is it for real mental health reasons? Or is the team covering something up?
And finally...lots of people online were doing stuff like wishing Dube well because it genuinely sounded concerning. Now...yeah...
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Sources confirm NHL players facing charges in sexual assault investigation | TSN
Four NHL players – Carter Hart, Michael McLeod, Dillon Dube, and Cal Foote – have been directed to surrender to police in London, Ont., to be charged with sexual assault in connection with an alleged incident that occurred during a Hockey Canada event in the city in June 2018, two sources...
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Sweet! Now that all of the names are out there, I can go hang out on the beach for awhile. Have fun, everyone.
Calgary should be ashamed using Mental Health reasons in that statement. Lots of questions need to be asked of them
It’s probably not a lie. Is it not plausible that once he found out he was getting charged that he may have needed to see mental health staff? That’s not out of the realm of possibility. Also you’re not entitled to any additional information? We live in a society where people feel entitled to every detail but that’s not reality.
We still protecting these rapists on this site or are we allowed to talk about it now??
You're right, we aren't entitled to additional information. However, when that omission of said info makes the statement a clear faced lie, then change the original statement. Its pretty simple, the Flames org done f***ed it up.
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Count me into that angry mob that's looking towards the Calgary Flames organization for a detailed explanation of what they meant by 'mental health.'
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Such a disgusting move by the flames to say it was a mental health issue for Dube
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Actually, I think there is another guy, I'm about to start speculating all over this thread if you leave.
I’m sure every SA victim who has had to take a medical leave for PTSD/depression/anxiety due to their assault is just thrilled to see someone who is on leave for being charged with SA to issue a statement implying their leave is due to mental health issues and not their legal troubles
It absolutely is a lie of omission. There was no need for them to put out the statement at all but instead they chose to use disingenuous reasons even though it would be reasonable for this to be affecting his mental health
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So you cannot see how knowing that you are about to be charged with a crime would screw up your mental health?
You can be guilty of a crime and still feel like absolute shit and end up with mental health issues.
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Where’s the Calgary Flames apology tweet about Dube? Don’t use that mental health tactic on this shit, be better.
I’m not kidding. When I saw the tweet I knew immediately it had to do with the case. And I just assumed that he probably freaked out once he learned he was being charged and legitimately had a mental health break down. I didn’t feel sorry for him at all. I’ve been following the case since summer and Dube was one of the guys I thought was involved. Same with Hart. The other guys were a surprise to me.
I didn’t read into the tweet for more than what it was. He 100% had some sort of panic attack or mental break down after learning he’d be charged. So I didn’t take it as a lie
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they probably didn't know and he didn't give more reason.
Well when the news of this story originally broke there was apparently more players involved.
Take what you want from that information and as to why they weren’t facing charges here. But that may mean the time for making deals has passed.
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