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Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

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Flames fans, I've always loved the rivalry between our two franchises. Anecdotally, I've talked to many different fans since I work in the field, and I've never had a negative interaction with you guys. You're an honest and passionate fanbase, and I'm sorry you're going to suffer for the actions of one player and the PR/Management staff. I just hope Kylington is doing okay, I can't imagine what a gut-punch this is to him.
 
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Koivu11 said:
“Dillon is under the care of health professionals”

Are lawyers health professionals?
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he is building his case of diminished capacity

now that carter hart's name is out there. Was he the goalie the Oilers nearly acquired only to have it call a part at the last moment? IT was interesting the radio silence after the trade did not happen
 
GeoRox89 said:
I’m sure every SA victim who has had to take a medical leave for PTSD/depression/anxiety due to their assault is just thrilled to see someone who is on leave for being charged with SA to issue a statement implying their leave is due to mental health issues and not their legal troubles

It absolutely is a lie of omission. There was no need for them to put out the statement at all but instead they chose to use disingenuous reasons even though it would be reasonable for this to be affecting his mental health
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Whether we agree with it is moot. Btw I’m not on Dube’s side. No one is saying we have to sympathize with him. I don’t feel sorry for the guy one bit. But learning you’re going to get charged can and often does lead to people having a mental break down. So as I’ve said before we don’t know all the details about what information the Flames were told. Hopefully they come out an explain what made them use those terms. But it’s very likely Dube did have an incident where he was in the care of health care professionals and they were just reporting what they knew.
 

So there's apparently a video now..


I'm not a lawyer, but is this case supposed to extrapolate non-consent due to intoxication despite "verbal consent" what the case is about?

Because this seems like its going to get really murky really quickly. And even if any random chance the players win, they might not be welcome back to their NHL teams, and certainly won't be embraced by the fans.
 
EpochLink said:
Where’s the Calgary Flames apology tweet about Dube? Don’t use that mental health tactic on this shit, be better.
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we might not like it--all hockey is circling the wagons to protect these players and certain media outlets are bending over backwards to make the victim look bad
 
Angry Little Elf said:
Such a disgusting move by the flames to say it was a mental health issue for Dube
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Doubt they had much choice if that’s what the player said.

What incentive would the team have to call it ‘mental health’ when it’s not - especially when they knew the news would be coming out anyway? It’s not like they were trying to cover it up.
 
Rpenny said:
he is building his case of diminished capacity

now that carter hart's name is out there. Was he the goalie the Oilers nearly acquired only to have it call a part at the last moment? IT was interesting the radio silence after the trade did not happen
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That was Binnington, I believe
 
All pieces of shit who I hope I never see on the ice again - at least in the NHL. All 5 can go f*** off to some lower tier league that doesn't care about their reputation.

Shoutout to the Lames for being an absolute joke of an organization for framing Dube's leave from the team as mental health related
 
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Didn't Dube take his leave of absence before the globe and mail article? is it possible that Calgary didn't know at the time that was the reason he was leaving and he told them a lie about it being a mental health issue?
 
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Perfect_Drug said:

So there's apparently a video now..


I'm not a lawyer, but is this case supposed to extrapolate non-consent due to intoxication despite "verbal consent" what the case is about?

Because this seems like its going to get really murky really quickly. And even if any random chance the players win, they might not be welcome back to their NHL teams, and certainly won't be embraced by the fans.
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I think I read somewhere that the victim didn’t actually say no and also did not say yes in the moment as many SA victims are paralyzed by fear or shock or do not know how to react in the moment. And it sounds like they came in and immediately performed acts on her without giving her the opportunity to consent. But the next morning the victim reported what happened. That’s my interpretation from all I’ve read but I could be wrong.
 
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