OT: Fitness and Nutrition IX

[Edgy]

I don't think any of those guys are trying to be healthy.

Heck, Im at 3500-4000 calories and I know its not healthy.

I'm on 3200 and it's very healthy.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Meat company investing in study: Conflict of interest bunker results!

Pea company investing in study: Philantropist promoting the good cause!

That 2nd point never happened but don’t let facts get in your way chief

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm on 3200 and it's very healthy.

Well, maybe if you are 6'5 or something, but if you are of average height, I doubt it would be healthy.

 

[Edgy]

Well, maybe if you are 6'5 or something, but if you are of average height, I doubt it would be healthy.

6'3 but I also burn around 500-700 calories at the gym every day.

 

[Kriss E]

Meat company investing in study: Conflict of interest bunker results!

Pea company investing in study: Philantropist promoting the good cause!

And I'm the lost cause...

 

[Kriss E]

Brah you’re such a lost cause lol

Not sure what happened in your life for you to have such militancy attitude, but I hope you get better.

 

[Kriss E]

6'3 but I also burn around 500-700 calories at the gym every day.

You sure about that? Burning 700cal in the gym is no easy feat.

 

[Mrb1p]

You sure about that? Burning 700cal in the gym is no easy feat.

With HIIT/cardio it isnt ?

He's 6'3, so you gotta think hes also heavier.

 

[Kriss E]

With HIIT/cardio it isnt ?

He's 6'3, so you gotta think hes also heavier.

That really depends, just how intense is someone going. Intensity also is very adaptable, so you need to push more and more in order to get that same burn.
Really depends, but spending 700cal at a gym, not easy.
People overestimate how much calories they burn, that's the main reason people struggle with weight loss. Not saying that's Edgy's case though.

 

[Mrb1p]

That really depends, just how intense is someone going. Intensity also is very adaptable, so you need to push more and more in order to get that same burn.
Really depends, but spending 700cal at a gym, not easy.
People overestimate how much calories they burn, that's the main reason people struggle with weight loss. Not saying that's Edgy's case though.

Pretty sure I burn 700 calories just sitting around for a hour right now I can totally see a 6'3 dude burn 700 calories during a hour and a half workout with some cardio in there.

 

[Kunta Kinte]

Anyone doing intermittent fasting ?

 

[DAChampion]

Anyone doing intermittent fasting ?

Lots of people. I do it on and off. What's up?

 

[Kriss E]

Pretty sure I burn 700 calories just sitting around for a hour right now I can totally see a 6'3 dude burn 700 calories during a hour and a half workout with some cardio in there.

You're probably not though That's my point.
I didnt say you cant burn 700cals working out, just said it ain't easy. Depends what you're doing.

 

[DAChampion]

I used to be able to do ~1,100 calories in an hour on the treadmill, but I've since lost the joints and cardio capacity to do that. I can do ~700 calories/hour on the elliptical now, but that gets boring, and if I did it every day I'd break my remaining joints.

 

[Treb]

That 2nd point never happened but don’t let facts get in your way chief

So if a major investor in the meat industry sponsored a documentary, you would have no qualms about it?

 

[Kriss E]

I used to be able to do ~1,100 calories in an hour on the treadmill, but I've since lost the joints and cardio capacity to do that. I can do ~700 calories/hour on the elliptical now, but that gets boring, and if I did it every day I'd break my remaining joints.

Those counters aren't really precise. They estimate they overshoot calories by 20% already, but then they dont consider level of fitness, or how proficient you are at an exercise. My buddy and I can hop on the treadmill, same age, same height/weight, put it on the same speed and we will end up having burnt the same number of calories. Difference is he barely knows how to put one foot in front of the other and he confuses running with stomping. After 10 minutes, he can barely breath, while I can still hold a perfect conversation without grasping for air.
Yet, the machine has us both at the same caloric loss, which makes anything but sense.
It's very similar to the BMI and how it's extremely flawed as it doesnt consider body composition.

So..I'd be wary of those calorie counters on cardio machines.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

So if a major investor in the meat industry sponsored a documentary, you would have no qualms about it?

You realize James Cameron is a film maker first and foremost, right? And that he wasn't the one who funded ANY of the studies they used in the film, right?

 

[Treb]

You realize James Cameron is a film maker first and foremost, right? And that he wasn't the one who funded ANY of the studies they used in the film, right?

So you see absolutely no conflict of interest in having a producer who invested more than a hundred million in the vegan industry producing a film about the superiority of veganism?

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

So you see absolutely no conflict of interest in having a producer who invested more than a hundred million in the vegan industry producing a film about the superiority of veganism?

If you want to believe James Cameron helped produce Game Changers in an effort to get people to eat more peas from his Saskatchewan company, you do you. I don't believe that. I think it's quite clear that we have a famous filmmaker who attached his name to a doc in order to help the doc secure funding and distribution. He supports the doc, because the doc supports plant based eating which he supports as an environmentalist. That's all there is to it.

But I guess when you can't attack the actual substance of the doc, you have to go after the motivations of it's producers, right?

 

[Treb]

If you want to believe James Cameron helped produce Game Changers in an effort to get people to eat more peas from his Saskatchewan company, you do you. I don't believe that. I think it's quite clear that we have a famous filmmaker who attached his name to a doc in order to help the doc secure funding and distribution. He supports the doc, because the doc supports plant based eating which he supports as an environmentalist. That's all there is to it.

But I guess when you can't attack the actual substance of the doc, you have to go after the motivations of it's producers, right?

So what you are saying is that meat industry sponsoring studies about meat shouldn't be as big a deal as you make it because they are just promoting what they believe in? Got it.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

So what you are saying is that meat industry sponsoring studies about meat shouldn't be as big a deal as you make it because they are just promoting what they believe in? Got it.

It's a big deal because they are misleading the public. How exactly has James Cameron mislead the public?

 

[ECWHSWI]

I like to read this thread once in a while, not that I'm knowledgeable or an expert on stuff being discussed here...

but seriously, this veganism cult is something else, it's killing the thread.

 

[Treb]

It's a big deal because they are misleading the public. How exactly has James Cameron mislead the public?

Because the movie is sensationalistic and makes it look better than it is?

Definition of MISLEAD

give a wrong impression

How is The Game Changers not misleading?

 

[NotProkofievian]

Nut butters are an easy way to get calories in, the one I use in my smoothies has 100 calories per tablespoon.

Yep. The Tahini in the hummus I eat is a pretty major source of dietary fat for me at the moment. I kept carbs relatively high and stripped out a lot of fat. I get about 60g per day of which my hummus and pita snack represents about 20g.

Lots of people. I do it on and off. What's up?

I'm intrigued by the idea of doing a multi-day fast once every so often.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I like to read this thread once in a while, not that I'm knowledgeable or an expert on stuff being discussed here...

but seriously, this veganism cult is something else, it's killing the thread.

We just have the one vegan tho