Player Discussion Fire Dustin Schwartz

[Soundwave]

Maybe they just take the "goalies are voodoo" like way too far in their evaluations of things

"Building a pro sports team is just voodoo"

 

[Oilhawks]

This org has invested $25M in Campbell and millions and years of development in Skinner and this guy is still around to sewer their investment. The team isn’t going anywhere with this goalie coach. Burke turned Vegas’ chicken shit into a Cup winning chicken salad. Find someone like him or call it quits

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

"Building a pro sports team is just voodoo"

Sure I guess *shrug*

 

[iCanada]

This org has invested $25M in Campbell and millions and years of development in Skinner and this guy is still around to sewer their investment. The team isn’t going anywhere with this goalie coach. Burke turned Vegas’ chicken shit into a Cup winning chicken salad. Find someone like him or call it quits

I mean f***. Skinner after having spent all summer r with Schwartz-y is total trash.

I'd rather not have a goaltending coach than whatever he's providing, because he's sure as shit not helping.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Sure I guess *shrug*

They already achieved the voodoo part by lucking into a generational talent.

How is finding other competent pieces so difficult?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

They already achieved the voodoo part by lucking into a generational talent.

How is finding other competent pieces so difficult?

I mean it is difficult to an extent. Sometimes you get lucky. There's no "sure fire" simple way to do it, but this organization needs to be much better at it period.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I mean it is difficult to an extent. Sometimes you get lucky. There's no "sure fire" simple way to do it, but this organization needs to be much better at it period.

Of course it’s not easy but they seem to be failing in basically every area.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Of course it’s not easy but they seem to be failing in basically every area.

Everything feels very bleak. I think the Oilers adding to it in a not insignificant way overwhelming me a bit. f*** these 2 games were horrendous

 

[McDNicks17]

The worst part in all of this is he's also the team's goalie scout. Any other goalie brought in will be chosen by him and then coached by him.

We're f***ed.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The worst part in all of this is he's also the team's goalie scout. Any other goalie brought in will be chosen by him and then coached by him.

We're f***ed.

Huh? The Oilers have their own goalie scout who's not Schwartz.

 

[TheNumber4]

Huh? The Oilers have their own goalie scout who's not Schwartz.

Your right. But we hired Jeff Salajko (the goalie scout) in Oct 2022, 4 months after signing Campbell. Likely Schwartz was the guy consulted with atleast on the Campbell signing as there was no one else around.

Looking in Salajko, he’s a former goalie coach with the Red Wings. Maybe Schwartz replacement is already here…

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Your right. But we hired Jeff Salajko (the goalie scout) in Oct 2022, 4 months after signing Campbell. Likely Schwartz was the guy consulted with atleast on the Campbell signing as there was no one else around.

Looking in Salajko, he’s a former goalie coach with the Red Wings. Maybe Schwartz replacement is already here…

That's my thoughts as well, but also a designated goalie scout is good as well, imo.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Lol at the Oilers shills in the replies twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify this guy.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Exactly. How he's survived the amount of coaches and GM's changes while still not having any goalies here progress is infuriating as a fan.
Outside of Sean Burke, Ian Clark aka Vancouver's goalie coach has been proficient at his job as well for developing goalies. We have a guy as a goalie coach who NEVER played professional hockey in his damn life, and had a goalie in Mike Smith who'd rather work with a different coach in the off season than him. I don't know what the f*** he teaches the goalies, but every goalie always plays smaller than they are under his coaching. Koskinen's a huge dude, but you'd think he's shorter based on the way he was always down on his knees and then getting sniped on his high glove side. Talbot kept having the tendency to give up the 1st goal within 1 to 5 shots since he kept going down on his knees. Soup's rebound control is his major weakness, but that STILL hasn't been improved upon either.
I forgot which previous goalie it was, but one of them said after going to a new team (and playing better), he was taught to stand up more rather than go down and make himself look smaller.

Dustin Schwartz needs to simply go.

Standing up to make a save. What a novel concept!

If I ever get time in the near future, I should look at goalies stats (especially save %) before they came to the Oilers, during, then after.

When the Jets swept the Oilers, I think that was the summer Smith got his own guy. Smith comes into the season and looked way, way better in net (and the numbers supported it, if I remember correctly) and we were all wondering what happened. Then the truth came out .

Schwartz has to be one of those mentalist/hypnotist types where he probably was getting the "you're fired" speech but then he blinks his eyes a certain way and says "I'm doing a really good job" and Holland, in a trance says "You're doing a really good job" then turns around and leaves his office, while also having his memory wiped of why he went in there in the first place.

 

[Oilhawks]

Standing up to make a save. What a novel concept!

If I ever get time in the near future, I should look at goalies stats (especially save %) before they came to the Oilers, during, then after.

When the Jets swept the Oilers, I think that was the summer Smith got his own guy. Smith comes into the season and looked way, way better in net (and the numbers supported it, if I remember correctly) and we were all wondering what happened. Then the truth came out .

Schwartz has to be one of those mentalist/hypnotist types where he probably was getting the "you're fired" speech but then he blinks his eyes a certain way and says "I'm doing a really good job" and Holland, in a trance says "You're doing a really good job" then turns around and leaves his office, while also having his memory wiped of why he went in there in the first place.

If the rumour is true about Schwartz banging a Katz, I guess the OEG going on about Holland having “full autonomy” has one asterisk…

 

[Ritchie Valens]

If the rumour is true about Schwartz banging a Katz, I guess the OEG going on about Holland having “full autonomy” has one asterisk…

I was afraid that might be the reason behind it.

 

[Anarchism]

Well if Jackson and Holland can't run him outta town...then where does that responsibility lie?

 

[joestevens29]

Lol at the Oilers shills in the replies twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify this guy.

Sadly Schwartz can blame Campbell for going outside the organization this summer and hiring Legace and someone as a mental sports coach.

With that being said I do feel at some point Jackson will move on from Schwartz. Just don't know that it's going to happen until the off-season.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Well Campbell sucks. Awesome job Dustin.

 

[Keggatron]

Fire this f***ing guy already.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Seriously what does it take for him to get fired?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

At this point we should be hoping for a promotion just so he stops coaching the goalies.

He’s never getting fired it seems.

The only other people in the NHL that are this bad at their job and keep getting to go to work are the stripes

 

[ManByng]

I have wanted Schwartz gone for a long time now!!
How does this guy keep his job??

 

[syz]

They're going to make him GM after Holland retires. Or maybe they'll give him Nicholson's job instead.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Campbell is the worst “starter” in the league.