Player Discussion Fire Dustin Schwartz

[GreeningOil]

So Kevin Woodley made some good points today on Gregors show about how the oilers are good at picking apart other teams goalies they did it with markstrom they did it with korpisalo do any Dustin haters have a response to this?

Dustin Schwartz succ

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

So Kevin Woodley made some good points today on Gregors show about how the oilers are good at picking apart other teams goalies they did it with markstrom they did it with korpisalo do any Dustin haters have a response to this?

Wonderful! Promote him to the Assistant Executive Manager of opposing goalie tendency scouting and hire a real goalie coach who can actually help the Edmonton Oilers goalies improve.

 

[BardownMagic]

Wonderful! Promote him to the Assistant Executive Manager of opposing goalie tendency scouting and hire a real goalie coach who can actually help the Edmonton Oilers goalies improve.

A classic “this is being done wrong but dont ask me how to fix it” dude. It is easy to see how this could be used to pick apart a goalie’s weaknesses. However, I am not willing to give him credit for this - a team with our offensive talent will expose a goalie.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

So Kevin Woodley made some good points today on Gregors show about how the oilers are good at picking apart other teams goalies they did it with markstrom they did it with korpisalo do any Dustin haters have a response to this?

Are we really gonna give credit to a goalie coach for thinking to shoot high on a butterfly goalie?

It's more of figuring a way to get the time, space & shooting lanes to be able to shoot high & I'm sure a goalie coach has little to nothing to do with that.

 

[Kanedogg]

Dustin Schwartz succ

Markstrom was a sieve Kane scoring at will had nothing to do with goaltender scouting.

As for the whole "go up stairs on him" not exactly rocket science. I remember that being the same book used to take out Roy in the 90s.

 

[joestevens29]

Are we really gonna give credit to a goalie coach for thinking to shoot high on a butterfly goalie?

It's more of figuring a way to get the time, space & shooting lanes to be able to shoot high & I'm sure a goalie coach has little to nothing to do with that.

I don't know if it was before or after Woodley, but Struds really went into detail to what a pre-playoff meeting or whatever they call it.

It's not just one guy that contributes, it's a lot of guys.

Goalie tendencies, player tendencies, what kind set plays the team does, what kind system they play, their strengths overall, their weaknesses. Just everything and anything.

I'm sure Schwartz is apart of it, but honestly I think anyone on these boards could do the job of analyzing the opposing goalie. Struds said they will literally look at every goal the goalie let in and give you a breakdown on how and where they are scored. Seems more of a pain in the ass job than a skilled job to sit there and map out goals allowed.

 

[McAsuno]

I hope we no longer have to see this clown employed by the Oilers anymore.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

The Teflon Don of hockey. Unreal he still has his job.

 

[McAsuno]

About time.

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Anyone involved with the decision to start Skinner and pull him, over and over, needs to go honestly.


Both goalies forgot how to goalie at some point. And we now have two new goalies locked up, who both look like they can't win a cup.

Firing the goalie coach is step one without a doubt.

 

[oobga]

Even casual Oilers fans know The Schwartz. Crazy this guy has been around for 4 GM's and 6 coaches. Fire him just because. You can't let people stick around that long, through so much suck. They could be a curse like Taylor Hall . Better safe than sorry

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Is there a single Oilers goalie who has improved with him?

 

[Fourier]

41-16 This one is on Skinner. Two games in and yet to break .800!

I have no idea how Schwatrz has not been fired after one goalie after another under performs,

 

[Kanedogg]

I like to think this is next on Jackson's to do list.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

About time.

Any day now Stauff.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Is there a single Oilers goalie who has improved with him?

Smith.
But the caveat was, he saw what a fraud Schwartz is and got his own guy in the offseason.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I’m not devoting another second to watching this team until this idiot is gone.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I’m not devoting another second to watching this team until this idiot is gone.

You're going to be waiting for awhile

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You're going to be waiting for awhile

Oh no

Anyway

 

[Oilhawks]

Even if it isn’t Schwartz fault, just fire the f***ing guy already. The results simply aren’t there. Every goalie has regressed under his tutelage

 

[McAsuno]

Smith.
But the caveat was, he saw what a fraud Schwartz is and got his own guy in the offseason.

Even if it isn’t Schwartz fault, just fire the f***ing guy already. The results simply aren’t there. Every goalie has regressed under his tutelage

It's comical. Sean Burke worked with 5 different goalies in Vegas last season, and turns random goalies like Hill to improve and progress. Soup's rebound control hasn't improved just like when Koskinen's high glove side never seem to get fixed. No goalie has ever improved under Schwartz. I could give a rats ass if he coaches Stu and Carter Hart during the off season, when things still don't improve IN the season. There's no legitimate argument to be had for him to still be employed by this team.

Like others have said, maybe he has some sort of voodoo blackmail on Daryl Katz or some shit, because how this goof continues to escape the boot towards the ass is truly baffling.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

It's comical. Sean Burke worked with 5 different goalies in Vegas last season, and turns random goalies like Hill to improve and progress. Soup's rebound control hasn't improved just like when Koskinen's high glove side never seem to get fixed. No goalie has ever improved under Schwartz. I could give a rats ass if he coaches Stu and Carter Hart during the off season, when things still don't improve IN the season. There's no legitimate argument to be had for him to still be employed by this team.

Like others have said, maybe he has some sort of voodoo blackmail on Daryl Katz or some shit, because how this goof continues to escape the boot towards the ass is truly baffling.

Carter Hart is shit too .

How no one else can connect the dots is just astoundingly wild.

 

[McAsuno]

Carter Hart is shit too .

How no one else can connect the dots is just astoundingly wild.

Sporting a 0.917 rookie season to a current 0.891 from training with the almighty Dustin Schwartz.
Schwartz is the Dallas Eakins of goaltending coaches.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

This post game interview from Skinner really bothers tf out of me. No accountability at all, and even scorns 'outside opinion'. Game 2 though? Jesus Stu, what's happenin' dude

 

[Drivesaitl]

Even if it isn’t Schwartz fault, just fire the f***ing guy already. The results simply aren’t there. Every goalie has regressed under his tutelage

You know my opinion, of a longtime, is that Schwartz turns our goalies to shit. That in itself should be fireable offense.

But that he was the one to recommend starting Skinner in EVERY playoff game is reason alone to be fired. An org with basic accountability does that. Live by your word. His advice in a critical season was to start Skinner all 12 games in playoffs. He gambled big and rolled those dice and came up empty. Fall on your sword.

Theres every indication that stuff like this isn't even really being reviewed by the org, by the org that said they would be doing top to bottom forensic analysis and accounting. They don't review shit.

In my job if something f***s up royally that you recommended you get called on it. In most peoples job it is that way.

But this org has always loved "Yes" people that smile a certain way. Woody plus Schwartz must be like some f***ing glee club.