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Glass being ranked that high should have been a hint lol
not quite but a 30-20 guy at his peak is a possibility
Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II
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- Jul 16, 2005
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I just read that Chytil played only 28 minutes all regular season with Kakko and Lafreniere (ie the 3 of them together).
That seems impossible.
That seems impossible.
Someone in the Stanley Cup thread nailed it - In 10 years we will look back on this Rangers team and say what crazy depth they had as Chytil, Kakko, Laf emerge A la Getzlaf/Perry in 2007.
We just need to believe in the meme magic.
We just need to believe in the meme magic.
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The goals are nice but he's only 35.6% on faceoffs.
Kodiak
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One thing I really liked in Chytil’s first goal was that he moved to get himself free. He slides away from the coverage and makes himself a target for Kakko and gets rewarded. Finding those softer areas in the coverage is what goal scorers need to do.
When the kids were playing on separate lines with veterans, they would be told to go to the net. They would, and then they would park there, mostly taking themselves out of the play.
But now they are playing with confidence and trusting their instincts more. It has been great to see over the last few games.
When the kids were playing on separate lines with veterans, they would be told to go to the net. They would, and then they would park there, mostly taking themselves out of the play.
But now they are playing with confidence and trusting their instincts more. It has been great to see over the last few games.
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Not really. Kakko was out all that time. Chytil was out a couple of times. Laf had that extended run on Zib's line. Chytil had a half dozen games with Strome and Bread. On the rare occasions they did play together, they'd get buried on the bench in the 3rd period. I'm a little surprised they were together for 28 minutes, to be honest.
deathb4disco
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Filip Chytil’s breakout postseason answering Rangers’ second-center question
Filip Chytil’s amazing technicolor breakout through this tournament could change the dynamic of the Rangers’ offseason just as dramatically as it has altered the course of the playoffs.
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Seems like Claude Lemieux was super high on him for years
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Good article.Filip Chytil’s breakout postseason answering Rangers’ second-center question
Filip Chytil’s amazing technicolor breakout through this tournament could change the dynamic of the Rangers’ offseason just as dramatically as it has altered the course of the playoffs.
Seems like Claude Lemieux was super high on him for years
You know you're old when the player's FATHER is younger than you. Hopefully I'll stick around long enough to see Chytil's kid play for the Rangers
deathb4disco
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I thought the same thing I'm not older but close lolGood article.
You know you're old when the player's FATHER is younger than you. Hopefully I'll stick around long enough to see Chytil's kid play for the Rangers
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He's always shown the speed and shot. Plenty of highlights of that. His biggest weakness besides the faceoff dot was vision and "hockey IQ" and he struggled to find that positioning to make himself available. The last game was a perfect example of him now finding those soft spots in the ice. Crazy what self confidence does. It's why I've advocated for getting the kids a sports psychologist before sending them packing and just calling them busts like some other people.
I can't really complain right now. And want to ride this as long as it goes. And Chytil, I mean, whatever he's been eating for breakfast I hope he keeps on eating.
But I don't think we are seeing a far superior player to his regular season self, just a far superior performance. And as much as I would love it if true, I can't say I expect this to carry over into permanent stardom. I'm still not sure if he is a future 2C or even regular top 6 player frankly, as good as he's been in the playoffs.
Whereas a guy like Laf I think is making huge strides and really showing his game, which in turn has helped Chytil. And Chytil has always had some offensive talent obviously. But I still see a middle 6 player having a great playoffs. I hope I'm wrong. And maybe this is a sign of things to come for all our young players, like Chytil, Lad, Miller. Except Kakko, who well, still has a lot of ground to cover in the offensive zone and still seems outside the play sometimes. But I'm not sure about Chytil either frankly.
However, Laf and Miller, I think are absolutely legit right now and showing signs of their future. And I think it's only a matter of time before Miller is on the first pair as Fox's partner. Maybe another season or two, or whenever Jones or another LD is ready and becomes a full timer. And Laf, well, finally proving his draft pedigree with a little proof.
But Chytil, I don't know. He's streaking at the right time. And we saw glimpses of this offensive player last season, but he was streaky then also. And I still don't know if he's got what it takes to stick at center. Again, I hope I'm wrong, and we have our 2C of the future. But I'm obviously skeptical of this Chytil sustaining into the future. Even if we go all the way with him producing like this. The non offensive areas of his game, like faceoffs, still concern me.
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He's still not. He's just having a terrific playoff run. He's always been pretty streaky. If he could do this for an entire season, or even the better part of a regular season, we can discuss those comparisons. But one playoff run, positive or negative does not determine a players entire career.
Can he carry this over into next year? Well, I guess let's just try to make it all the way to the end of this one first. But I say an inspired Chytil, a better performing Chytil, but not necessarily an all around superior Chytil.
Err, those are some good excuses. But he played 67 games during the regular season and scored 22 points. Under Quinn last season, he scored 22 points in 42 games, probably his best year. Oddly enough, he scored 23 points the two years prior. He hasn't shown real progress until now. That makes THIS the likely outlier. Not his regular season performances. Hopefully I'm wrong. But he's had very good streaks prior, consistency has always been part of the issue. And that's not even getting into the rest of his game, which for a center, has been lackluster at times.
Hope I'm wrong. And he'll be a huge part if we win. But going to hold my breath on Chytil becoming a superstar based on this few weeks of above average performance.
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This whole team has issues on that front.
Much preferable to being inthe position where we were saying “the face off wins are nice but they aren’t scoring any goals.“
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Right NOW maybe neither of them are in CHYTIL’s league depending on how you want to value it. Neither of them came up big in the playoffs (“when it counts”?) both were better in the regular season. Next year may be different. They are all kids and all still good prospects. I think it’s fair to say Chytil is in their league.
um... I would say it's fair to say Chytil is having a better playoff run. but not that "Chytil is in their league". Just in an overall value and potential sense. There is no way in hell I would move Necas or Lundell for Chytil. Not even close. But I'd certainly swap Chytil for either of them in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, their respective teams would laugh and hang up the phone promptly.
Yea like "RIGHT NOW", as in the past couple of weeks. That's about it. But it's not really close in terms of overall value and potential. Damn, this team with Lundell? Forget it. It would be a far superior team all around. And I'm pretty sure Laf would have about 5 extra points right now.
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Yes that’s exactly what I meant by “right now.”
Because a player is in the same league as another doesn’t make them equivalent. Yeah there’s no way FL trades Lundell for Chytil. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t in the same league. Not in the same league would be one is a C prospect and one is an A. I dont think its wild to say they are both A‘s, but also not wild to say Lundell is a much better bet. Like I said, they are all kids, they’re all going to be better than they are now. Different individuals develop and reach their plateau at different rates and have their ups and downs. And with every game it’s looking just a little more reasonable to think Chytil may turn out to be just as good as (or at least same tier as) Lundell when they both become the players they are going to be in the end. I mean maybe “in the same league” has a different connotation to you, but this is how I see it. I’m certainly not bagging on Necas or Lundell. Love em both.
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God, Rangers fans are the worst. If Chytil was on a different team you would all be shit posting management right now for passing on him. He's finally breaking out. He's been a total force on both end of the ice -- in the playoffs. This is great!
FoxysExpensiveNYDigs
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I gotta eat some crow. I had given up. He looks so much more assertive and confident these playoff. Definitely a lesson in patience for me.
We all could use patience. I started a thread asking if we should trade Kakko/Laf or both. It's just that when Rangers fans were calling for a rebuild especially during the dark ages all I remember is them saying how management has too low opinion of Rangers fans thinking that they won't be patient. Lo and behold, they haven't been patient at all.
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I said this in one of the GDT's: I don't care if he goes 10-10 in the regular season so long as we get THIS Chytil come play offs. Reality: The kids have finally figured it out. He's looked fantastic, and not in some streaky/flukey way. I just think it all finally clicked for the kid(s). Totally glad to thus far be VERY wrong about him.
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It's beautiful that it's all coming together for him. When he first played in the preseason right after being drafted, you could tell one thing about him, he could skate. His 2nd year, after being sent to the minors to begin the year, you saw he got bigger and had this rocket shot.
When it comes to the power/accuracy combo of his shot, including a lethal backhand, I think the only forward on the team with a better one is Mika. Vatrano has the wrister, but no backhand as far as I can tell.
The direction this league is headed, I see 40 goal potential in him. His shot is so lethal.
I'd re-sign Copp and put Chytil at 2C with him and Panarin. Bread gets his big center that can rip shots, go to the net, and give him some room with his speed. Would mask his faceoff issues too.
When it comes to the power/accuracy combo of his shot, including a lethal backhand, I think the only forward on the team with a better one is Mika. Vatrano has the wrister, but no backhand as far as I can tell.
The direction this league is headed, I see 40 goal potential in him. His shot is so lethal.
I'd re-sign Copp and put Chytil at 2C with him and Panarin. Bread gets his big center that can rip shots, go to the net, and give him some room with his speed. Would mask his faceoff issues too.
Lots of love for Chytil on these boards (as is well deserved)
- But how many of you would be willing to trade him this summer in a deal for a 2C?
- If you want to keep him because of potential how long will you give him to show it consistently before you change your stance?
- But how many of you would be willing to trade him this summer in a deal for a 2C?
- If you want to keep him because of potential how long will you give him to show it consistently before you change your stance?
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