Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II
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I have this suspicion that he never really takes the next step and for the next several years people will be saying, "He's still only X years old, remember what he did for the Rangers in the playoffs a few years ago? There's still upside there!"
For a bona fide #2, I wouldn't hesitate to move him.
For a bona fide #2, I wouldn't hesitate to move him.
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I’d rather take our chances with our own kids but I personally trade Kakko before Chytil. I see more out of Chytil on the offensive side of the puck and prefer to gamble with C depth that can be converted to wing if necessary. Kravtsov remains a wild card - he might be better than KK too and plays the same position.
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Chytil hasn't been given a real chance to show that he can be more than a 3C. Give him the 2C spot and see if he can run with it. If he can't, then at least we'll know for sure. If he can, then we've saved ourselves a bunch of assets and cap space.
I agree with you. He had a nice playoffs — that is not the player I expect we’re getting moving forward IMO.
Chytil although young has been in the league for 4+ seasons, while KK only 3 if you count the limited schedule in 2020. Funny how all we here is how young FC is but KK has less experience. As impressed as I was with FC in the playoffs I was unimpressed by his regular season as well as last year. There is so much more to being a center than scoring points. What FC is still lacking is ice vision, play making ability and the ability to win face offs. For a number 2 center these are all critical. To me its a much bigger risk penciling him in as the 2C going into the season.
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I’m just trying to discuss who is the better player regardless of position. I’ve seen very little out of KK that leads me to believe that he’ll be a better winger than FC if FC can’t ultimately cut it at center.
There seems to be a growing comfort with trading FC. This makes no sense to me. Outside of draft position, there are very few, if any, reasons to believe that KK ends up being a better player than FC, even if FC gets shifted to the wing.
FC is bigger, faster, has a better shot, and isn’t afraid to take defenseman on directly. He has improved along the walls. Kakko is better on the boards but he has shown no ability to do anything with the space he creates there.
Again, I prefer to trade neither, but given the choice in a vacuum, I keep FC.
It's about time he's earned a chance to consistently play with NHL talent. Laf and Kakko have gotten plenty of opportunities even though Chytil has shown more production whenever he's gotten moved up.
It’s interesting that this is your POV because I feel like he’s easily been the least productive of the 3 when getting a chance to play up in the lineup.
I could be wrong though, my shoddy memory’s doing a lot of heavy lifting supporting that claim.
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I know it's the off-season rush, but I think he took huge steps in the play offs. I'd love to see him bring that game to the regular season next year. I said it a thousand times in a gdt's for the play offs: I don't care if he's not a regular season guy, as long as he brings it when it matters. I know a lot of people said things like "The kid's line were playing against the other team's third D pairing" That's exactly the point. What makes teams like Colorado and Tamp so dangerous is the ability to pressure with all four lines.
I get it, buy low, sell high. Not moving him now runs the risk of lowering his return, but I dunno, I feel like it wasn't just a hot streak with him. I think things finally clicked.
I get it, buy low, sell high. Not moving him now runs the risk of lowering his return, but I dunno, I feel like it wasn't just a hot streak with him. I think things finally clicked.
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Hopefully with Strome moving on, the team could try some different combos at 5 on 5. Someone Chytil has done great with 5v5 is Kreider. I believe the Kreider-Chytil-Buch line was fantastic. I'd try and rekindle that line with Kakko on the right side. If Laf is really going to get used at RW, you might as well have him with Mika and Panarin.
That Chytil line gives you speed and size to work the corners. Kakko is the playmaker on that line. He has shown he is a fantastic passer. Kreider and Chytil are finishers. The other option is throw Panarin with those two since he seems to hate shooting. That might work even better. Have Mika with the lottery kids.
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Balanced top line. Could be used in any situation. Offensive 2nd line. You put them out for 70% OZ draws. You could arguably go with a more offensive minded 3rd line and that checking 4th line every team needs to win a cup.
That Chytil line gives you speed and size to work the corners. Kakko is the playmaker on that line. He has shown he is a fantastic passer. Kreider and Chytil are finishers. The other option is throw Panarin with those two since he seems to hate shooting. That might work even better. Have Mika with the lottery kids.
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kakko
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Balanced top line. Could be used in any situation. Offensive 2nd line. You put them out for 70% OZ draws. You could arguably go with a more offensive minded 3rd line and that checking 4th line every team needs to win a cup.
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Filip seemed to come of age in the playoffs. Clutch goals, played more physical than he ever has, and showed good leadership qualities when our backs were against the wall. I am not expecting miracles production-wise, but I think he has a really solid year and gets an affordable long-term extension (3-4 years-3.5-4 AAV) and the Rangers go to war with Mika-Trocheck-Chytil down the middle for the foreseeable future.
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The downside of those top 2 is that your third is likely
othmann/cuylle trocheck and kratsov.
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It shows that he is committed for the season. Is he even skating yet or even in NYC yet? no character, trade him
think this was AugustGreat priorities with preseason approaching.
It was.
He was in Paris with a bunch of other young Euro NHL players for some media shit.
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Apologies. I just saw the NYR post was from today so I figured it was today. Didn't occur to me it was a delayed repost. My bad.
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Everyone talks about needing Laf and Kakko to step up this season but its time for Filip as well. I would like him to put up some AA type numbers. Maybe like 20 goals-20 assists. Actually I'd like to see all 3 of them put up at least 20 goals each.
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20 goals is probably not a realistic expectation for Chytil. It is much more possible for Lafreniere and Kakko if they stick in the top 6 all year. With the way our PP works, we are pretty much not expecting any PP production from the second unit. So we are looking for 20 ES goals from Chytil while playing third line minutes with some combination of Goodrow, Vesey, Blais, and Kravtsov as wingers. I like Chytil as a player but I don’t see that happening.
He might get 15 goals this year. If he can do that while continuing to develop his defensive game, faceoff ability, and ability to cause havoc on the forecheck, I think that’s a successful season.
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15 will work especially if he improves his faceoffs but we have had 3rd liners put up 20 so I think that should be a goal. Brian Boyle even scored 21 for us one season. Chytil had 14 in 60 games for us so its not crazy.
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