Confirmed with Link: Fabian Zetterlund traded to Ottawa

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

He is a great 3rd liner with the ability to play up a line or two for injured players and not embarrass himself but is not a top two line player. You will love him and his RED Face he gets LOL. The only reason on the Sharks board we got was from his Agent seeming to imply that soon a RFA and arbs rights that the exchanged offers might be why he was dealt, still not the right value from Sharks Fans View. In fact with this unexpected trade might bring down his Team's (Zetts and Agent) idea of price back down to reality if his team way over valued him and get you a very good player on a good contract. UGH From my perspective. Good Luck To him and You.

25 goals 25 assists pace with 140 hits 70 blocked shots is a 3rd liner? Averaged 18 mins TOI last season 17 this season? Only 4 forwards had higher TOI.

Last year he was 3rd in TOI with almost same stat-line with 24 goals 20 assists.

He was 2nd in hits last year on your team and 2nd in blocked shots.

2 way responsible, physical, hard working averaging 25 goals last 2 seasons. Where's the 3rd liner?

 

[Sandisfan]

25 goals 25 assists 140 hits 70 blocked shots is a 3rd liner? Averaged 18 mins TOI last season 17 this season? Only 4 forwards had higher TOI.

Last year he was 3rd in TOI with almost same stat-line with 24 goals 20 assists.

He was 2nd in hits last year on your team and 2nd in blocked shots.

He was playing up in the lineup because he was top six on the Sharks. He was getting a bit more playing time and playing with better players but a real top 2 would get more points than him. He should be on a great 3rd line and put pressure on other teams as your lineup could dominate other 3rd lines giving other teams headaches.

 

[Xspyrit]

Frankly, Ostapchuk is going to be a good 4th line checking center but doesn't have much upside to be more than that, maybe as valuable as a Kastelic in his prime.

Gregor was a free wallet and decent depth player but basically we paid a 2nd and a 4th line Center for Zetterlund and a 4th round pick

That seems like a very good trade to me. I am very encouraged by Steve Staios, he seems to have the creativity we need to become more competitive. Since Dorion messed up the 2nd part of the rebuild, we really needed a guy that would find all kind of ways to improve the team and we might have that guy in Staios. Amadio signing is a bit meh and the Perron signing didn't work out so far but there was a lot of bad luck attached to it. The Chychrun-Jensen looks really bad on paper but the loss in value falls on Dorion's shoulders no doubt.

 

[DJB]

Wasn't that the Karlsson trade?

Yes correct

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

He was playing up in the lineup because he was top six on the Sharks. He was getting a bit more playing time and playing with better players but a real top 2 would get more points than him. He should be on a great 3rd line and put pressure on other teams as your lineup could dominate other 3rd lines giving other teams headaches.

Well.. he was 3rd on your team in points last year 1 point away from 2nd.

And although he's 5th in points this year, he's only 8 away from number 1.

Not sure I see what you're saying.

Was he playing with better players, or was he the better player? Again, keep in mind he is top 2 on your team in hits and blocked shots both seasons as well and responsible defensively.

 

[dumbdick]

5v5 pts/60, past two seasons...

Cozens: 1.71
Zetterlund: 1.49
Norris: 1.27

 

[Sandisfan]

Well.. he was 3rd on your team in points last year 1 point away from 2nd.

And although he's 5th in points this year, he's only 8 away from number 1.

Not sure I see what you're saying.

Was he playing with better players, or was he the better player? Again, keep in mind he is top 2 on your team in hits and blocked shots both seasons as well and responsible defensively.

Two of those are rookies playing in their teens and we had a hole for another top 6 and Zetts in retrospect won't be considered a 2nd liner later in his career don't oversell him to your fellow Sens fans. Think of it this way how many 2nd line forwards are traded at his age for what he was traded for if he was a 2nd liner there would have been better offers though I think if some top teams had the assets they would have sent a 1st rounder but many top team are now and were short of 1sts. You will love him he can fill in on top two lines which is great but ideally he should be a top 5 in the league 3rd line winger. Remember there are stacked teams who have a 2nd liner or two on their 3rd line, a nice luxury and if you can have a team good enough to keep him on the 3rd line you will be a very good team.

The two Rookies are playing near 1st or 2nd line levels but aren't nearly there yet. He played a lot with Granlund who is seen as a very good 3rd liner and a fill in 2nd line center only if needed. Though the reviews of teams who he played with seem to think Granny for whatever reason played better but not good enough to be a 2nd line center but somehow was disappointing as a 3rd line center as at least two previous teams fans have told our board.

Still you got a steal I don't think the numbers Ostap put up in the past project to him being anything more than a 4th liner who kills penalties and there is some value but those types get traded for very little all the time when playoff teams have a need for a playoff run him plus a middle 2nd isn't much for what you will get. BE HAPPY.

Edited: to change Thought to Though in 2nd paragraph.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

a lot of people thought he was gonna be sharks core going forward, and it sounds like he is a physical specimen. I’m excited.

 

[dumbdick]

Think of it this way how many 2nd line forwards are traded at his age for what he was traded for if he was a 2nd liner there would have been better offers though

This is exactly what we're all so happy about. But you forgot the part about him being very young, on the upswing and under contract control.

This literally never happens!!!!

 

[Sandisfan]

There is a Funny/Sad meme that seems to have some truth to it that Greer is very down on guys not at least 6'2" and Zetts is about 6' so it might have played into his moving on from Zetts. I know weird but true he has acquired mostly taller players since he came in and there are some stats that show under 5'11" don't do as well as taller players though there are many bad stone hands Big players in the league with little talent/skills but those keep being put in the lineups all over the league. So many GMs love truculent types even though advanced stats and visual getting hemmed in for long shifts are ignored as though getting stuck in their own zone is an accident.

 

[Xspyrit]

Probably also eats normal, cooked meat.


Beauty.

Wait, is this 1992?

 

[Xspyrit]

I think the best part of this trade is Giroux and Pinto on 3rd line with Greig. They might put Greig 4th line c though for depth. What a freaking deal lmfao.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Zetterlund
Perron-Cozens-Batherson
Cousins-Pinto-Giroux
Gaudette-Greig-Amadio

Zetterlund - Stutzle - Cozens
Tkachuk - Pinto - Batherson
Perron - Greig - Giroux
Cousins - Gaudette - Amadio

I wouldn't have Cozens as a C so he would focus on his offensive game then develop his 2-way game progressively without the pressure of being a Top-6 C

Tkachuk-Pinto-Batherson could be dynamite too

Yeah, even if you think Cozens is slightly worst than Norris, having both Zetterlund and Cozens over just the one player in Norris is a big boost to our forward group overall.

What brings Norris value down is the number of games he misses. It doesn't seem to be a problem with Cozens (knock on wood)

We kept Buffalo's pick. Aka the better one.

Georges Laraque was saying that Buffalo's 2nd "was not even protected". I don't know the f*** he was smoking, you can't protect 2nd round picks lol

 

[DylanSensFan]

His production these last two years would make him a second line player IMO.

24 goals and 20 assists last season. This season he is on pace for a similar number.

He's a winger for Stü... finally.

 

[Xspyrit]

Serves them right after Heatly and Hoff

With the benefit of hindsight, I believe Sharks fans also see the Heatley trade as a huge loss. Michalek was younger, cheaper, a better 2-way player and didn't become an anchor quickly like Heatley did.

Sens fans might have a bad souvenir because of the emotional roller coaster that was but rationally, we won that trade by a huge margin. I mean, Heatley's cap hit was 12.62% of the cap in 2010-11 (he scored 26 goals that season),. That would be a 11+ M$ cap hit today... Heatley become one of if not the BIGGEST ANCHOR in the NHL by the 2nd/3rd season he was gone.

Payback for the lobsided Heatley trade

We won that deal handily

 

[DylanSensFan]

Zetterlund - Stutzle - Cozens
Tkachuk - Pinto - Batherson
Perron - Greig - Giroux
Cousins - Gaudette - Amadio

I wouldn't have Cozens as a C so he would focus on his offensive game then develop his 2-way game progressively without the pressure of being a Top-6 C

Tkachuk-Pinto-Batherson could be dynamite too



What brings Norris value down is the number of games he misses. It doesn't seem to be a problem with Cozens (knock on wood)



Georges Laraque was saying that Buffalo's 2nd "was not even protected". I don't know the f*** he was smoking, you can't protect 2nd round picks lol

My lines would be:

Zetterlund-Stü-Tkachuk
Batherson-Cozins-GIroux (Giroux could also play center, taking some pressure off of Cozins)
Amadio-Pinto-Cousins (magic sauce line when cousins is healthy)
Perron-Grieg-Gaudette (Gaudette could also play center and put Grieg on the right side)

This seems more balanced to me, especially if we make it into the playoffs.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

What do we think Zetterlund next contract looks like ?

 

[DylanSensFan]

What do we think Zetterlund next contract looks like ?

Probably at least $6 or $7mill per.

 

[Norris4Norris]

He's a winger for Stü... finally.

Exactly, a guy who scores 24 goals on a rebuilding team might score 30 on the wing of a superstar like Stutzle.

The other aspect is that Cozens is a playmaker who can create more goals for others as the second line centre. As I have been told Cozens does his damage at even strength, which is so important because the Senators are amongst the bottom in even-strength goals.

 

[Tragedy]

Jesus Christ dude how are you this much of a downer?

There could be a way to end world hunger found and he would complain gravediggers are losing work

 

[LeProspector]

Probably at least $6 or $7mill per.

No way, I bet it comes in around 5 I think

 

[DylanSensFan]

No way, I bet it comes in around 5

He had 20+ goals last season and he's headed that way this season. He's getting at lease $6.

 

[LeProspector]

He had 20+ goals last season and he's headed that way this season. He's getting at lease $6.

I say it ends up less than Tyler Bertuzzi who is a similar player who had proven more when he signed last summer. Fabian gets less term. 2x4.5-5 is my guess which walks him to UFA.

 

[Boud]

Probably at least $6 or $7mill per.

I’d say something around 6 should do it.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I say it ends up less than Tyler Bertuzzi who is a similar player who had proven more when he signed last summer. Fabian gets less term. 2x4.5-5 is my guess which walks him to UFA.

My guess is that he signs a similar deal as Grieg, but with a little more cost per year. 4@$6-mill average per season.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I liked Robins in his draft year,, have not seen him in a while.
He was really tenacious in junior .great motor good speed ,. played above his size

This is what the Draft Analyst had to say about him in his draft book

"Robins gets rewarded for his enthusiasm and hard work. He is a puck hound who makes the right decisions in terms of reads and anticipation, and he uses a long stick to help him generate takeaways. Although he can come across as a grinder because of his motor and effort, Robins was deserving of being a top liner simply because he made all those around him better. He excelled on the power play from point and the half wall mostly because of his hard, accurate shot and his confidence in using it as often as possible – Robbins can be a dual threat as either a high-volume shooter or a pass-first playmaker."

points have not been there for the Barracudas .. He will go to Belleville for now