GDT: FA Frenzy time ladies and gents (for everyone else that is)

[Borsig]

Maybe wait and see what we do? I’ll be honest, Tro hasn’t really been getting it done postseason and I’m not sure I expect that to change once he gets his big contract. Money perhaps better spent elsewhere.

No one got it done in the post season. It's why we barely beat Boston and got beat by NY. I get your point. I don't hate NY. I hate Boston. But watching them load up and take one of our best forecheckers would be painful.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I doubt we were ever giving 29 yo Trocheck, who has a long injury history and plays a style that will batter his body, a long term deal. It's not about $0.5M-$1M. The Canes have a lot of players coming up as RFAs/UFAs in 2-3 years (Aho, Pesce, TT, Skjei, Slavin, Jarvis (RFA) and potentially Necas depending on what contract he gets and if he's still with the team.

It's how this team operates. I get it can be frustrating in the moment, but it's going to likely continue to be how they operate.

 

[MadeUpName]

Burns has a 3 team trade list which is Dallas, Carolina and (speculated) Nashville.

Would be interesting to see those trade talks. Surely neither Dallas nor Carolina would take Burns for free at $8 million x 3 years.

Dreger followup:

 

[CandyCanes]

Would be wild to see Burns in a Canes jersey. I still hate the idea of the deal, but we’ll see how it breaks down if it happens.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

if we are bidding against Dallas to make this happen, pass

unless we are throwing in Necas and some other stuff to get Meier as well. then yea ok.

 

[MadeUpName]

if we are bidding against Dallas to make this happen, pass

I would hope it is Carolina and Dallas both bidding their best worst deals.

At worst I imagine Burns with some retention for a Cap dump (Gardiner or Bear)

 

[Borsig]

When is the last time we won a bidding war? Legit question. I don't know the answer.

I also don't want Burns. But I don't know who to replace for 1RD.

I don't know much about Klingberg

 

[Stickpucker]

After the Rakell, Kane, and Nichuskin contracts I wonder how much Nino thinks he's worth.

 

[Svechhammer]

much like Mrazek in Toronto, how quickly does Edmonton and their poor defense make Campbell look bad? How quickly does Edmonton regret the 5 x 5 deal?

I mean Campbell had the same bad Toronto defense in front of him and he wasn't great. Its not like its going to get much better in Edmonton.

Legitimately speaking, the market for goalies right now is batshit crazy. If we were at all confident in Kochetkov, I'd love to dangle Raanta out there and get in on the action.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Ottawa is going too crazy, IMO. they are only battling for 4th in the Atlantic. If they add much more salary past this season, they will have wasted their opportunity to keep Debrincat past this season.

 

[Svechhammer]

Ottawa is going too crazy, IMO. they are only battling for 4th in the Atlantic. If they add much more salary past this season, they will have wasted their opportunity to keep Debrincat past this season.

Full on Eagles 'Dream Team' mode. Just throw a shitload of money around and worry about fitment later.

That is a team that really could use a slow burn style rebuild. Tons of great pieces, but they still need more time in the crock pot to come together before you start throwing the insane money around.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I mean Campbell had the same bad Toronto defense in front of him and he wasn't great. Its not like its going to get much better in Edmonton.

Legitimately speaking, the market for goalies right now is batshit crazy. If we were at all confident in Kochetkov, I'd love to dangle Raanta out there and get in on the action.

Edmonton is going to continue their run of losing a bunch of 5-4 games

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I mean Campbell had the same bad Toronto defense in front of him and he wasn't great. Its not like its going to get much better in Edmonton.

Legitimately speaking, the market for goalies right now is batshit crazy. If we were at all confident in Kochetkov, I'd love to dangle Raanta out there and get in on the action.

I think there’s more to it than just being confident in Koochie mama. After bouncing around and not playing a ton since being drafted I’d rather have him be a workhorse in Chicago than a backup with us for next year.

Regarding Burns, I would be curious to see if he’s reached his final form or if there’s more change to come.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Ottawa is going too crazy, IMO. they are only battling for 4th in the Atlantic. If they add much more salary past this season, they will have wasted their opportunity to keep Debrincat past this season.

They have $22m in cap space right now, free up another ~$15m next year from pretty meh players (Brown, Watson, Hamonic, Zub, Holden, Talbot), and next offseason Debrincat is an RFA already making $6.4m, meaning at most he gets what, a $3.5m raise? They've got plenty of room.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

They have $22m in cap space right now, free up another ~$15m next year from pretty meh players (Brown, Watson, Hamonic, Zub, Holden, Talbot), and next offseason Debrincat is an RFA already making $6.4m, meaning at most he gets what, a $3.5m raise? They've got plenty of room.

I don’t think Zub is meh, at all. I’d like him in a canes jersey.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I don’t think Zub is meh, at all. I’d like him in a canes jersey.

I agree, he's the least meh of the bunch I mentioned.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

They have $22m in cap space right now, free up another ~$15m next year from pretty meh players (Brown, Watson, Hamonic, Zub, Holden, Talbot), and next offseason Debrincat is an RFA already making $6.4m, meaning at most he gets what, a $3.5m raise? They've got plenty of room.

Got to think Giroux is costing 6.5 mil plus. Norris is going to cost 7 million plus to re-sign. 13-14 million right there plus Weegar and anything else.

They have 0 defense for next season past Chabot. Zub isnt a meh player. they will need a starting goalie too.

They also have to re-sign Stutzle as well.

that cap space goes away quickly. Add in Debrincat's 9 million QO.

 

[MinJaBen]

I'd offer a 3rd team Suzuki and like a 6th rounder to sign Kling 6x7m and then flip him to us 50% retained.

Ok Larry Brooks.

 

[Svechhammer]

Got to think Giroux is costing 6.5 mil plus. Norris is going to cost 7 million plus to re-sign. 13-14 million right there plus Weegar and anything else.

They have 0 defense for next season past Chabot. Zub isnt a meh player. they will need a starting goalie too.

They also have to re-sign Stutzle as well.

that cap space goes away quickly. Add in Debrincat's 9 million QO.

Yeah the rate they are going they are going to need to start having some of the same kind of cap decisions that we have going forward without the kind of overall team you want to have where those decisions are more based on tweaking rather than big holes to fill.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Yeah the rate they are going they are going to need to start having some of the same kind of cap decisions that we have going forward without the kind of overall team you want to have where those decisions are more based on tweaking rather than big holes to fill.

it is just a wild time to be a Ottawa fan for sure. They will turn into Edmonton light with all that offense, no defense, and poor goal tending.

 

[Svechhammer]

it is just a wild time to be a Ottawa fan for sure. They will turn into Edmonton light with all that offense, no defense, and poor goal tending.

Makes me feel very fortunate that the first 2 pieces of our current core that we really realized were Slavin and Pesce. It made so many of our future moves that much easier to know the defense was in good hands going forward.

 

[Stickpucker]

I wonder if he has inside info or if he’s just opining off the LeBrun tweet from yesterday.

He's ahem "working" his connections to get insudurr info. I wonder what it takes to ply ol turtleneck's lips.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Got to think Giroux is costing 6.5 mil plus. Norris is going to cost 7 million plus to re-sign. 13-14 million right there plus Weegar and anything else.

They have 0 defense for next season past Chabot. Zub isnt a meh player. they will need a starting goalie too.

They also have to re-sign Stutzle as well.

that cap space goes away quickly. Add in Debrincat's 9 million QO.

They have Sanderson and Brannstrom plus will fill in around them, they'll probably re-sign Zub for ~$3-4m, Debrincat's QO is a $2.6m raise from what he's making today. If they actually sign Weegar, boom, there's your defense for next year. I'm not seeing where the cap runs out on this plan, at least for now. Of course you shouldn't go out of your way to sign bad contracts, but I think coming out of a rebuild gun blazing by weaponizing the fact that you've haven't had enough good players in the last 5 years to get yourself into cap hell is a pretty good plan.

 

[mikeyfan]

Brett Burns deal may rest with how much the sharks are willing to retain. If they don’t retain at least 25% I don’t believe the canes pull the trigger.

 

[spockBokk]

Makes me feel very fortunate that the first 2 pieces of our current core that we really realized were Slavin and Pesce. It made so many of our future moves that much easier to know the defense was in good hands going forward.

You really have to hope that 2 of Morrow, Heimosalmi, Seeley, Nikishin or now Forsmark and Grudinin morph into the Slavins/Pesces of the future.