GDT: FA Frenzy time ladies and gents (for everyone else that is)

[hblueridgegal]

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Lots can happen between now and then. If we fall off or get pennywise with him, I can see it happening. I'd like to think that Aho and Slavin are basically blank checks. I mean martinook at 1.8 is an absolute joke. That's what irritates me about this FO. They'll pay Martinook 1.8 and then devalue other players.

Its contractual risk. A 3 x 1.8 million contract virtually has 0 risk. 7-8 year deals for big money have a ton of risk.

Underperforming a 1.8 deal, fart noise
Underperforming anything above 5 million has compounding impact on the cap with a flat cap.

Hopefully that team gets older and it ain’t us.

 

[spockBokk]

 

[raynman]

Wasn’t Marek one of the first to report Klingberg to Carolina during the season too?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Depending on the contract I’m pretty meh on Klingberg being the solution.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If Klingberg is looking to recoup his value then come on down. Slavin will make you look amazing.

Colin Miller and Acciari are my two redemption story signings for today. 1 year cheaper deals who can recoup value. Would be good additions in my view.

 

[raynman]

Depending on the contract I’m pretty meh on Klingberg being the solution.

As a fellow John I’m required to disagree. As a Canes fan I agree with you unless it’s short term. If he could get back to his 17-18 levels of production I’d be okay with it.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I look forward to seeing how much Ottawa overpaid to get Giroux

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Dorion must be like: "Oh, this is what being a GM of a team that can spend is really like"

Probably how JR felt after going to Pittsburgh.

 

[spockBokk]

I’ve seen the discussions about Klingberg signing with the Canes short-term. While I think that would be ideal for the team, I see absolutely no reason why Klingberg would consider it. Why would he?

He and Manson are the only top 4 capable RD in this UFA class and there are multiple teams, flush with cash and cap space, in need of top 4 RD. I don’t see why the braintrust would pick 30yr old Klingberg for multiple years over 2yrs of 26yr old TDA at $5M, but here we are. If they end up with Klingberg, they’re going to have to give him significant term.

I still don’t see it happening, but I’d prefer them to add Klingberg vs some of the other options in Burns or Petry. Maybe they have something else up their sleeve entirely. Who knows. They’ll be active no matter what today and this week.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I’ve seen the discussions about Klingberg signing with the Canes short-term. While I think that would be ideal for the team, I see absolutely no reason why Klingberg would consider it. Why would he?

He and Manson are the only top 4 capable RD in this UFA class and there are multiple teams, flush with cash and cap space, in need of top 4 RD. I don’t see why the braintrust would pick 30yr old Klingberg for multiple years over 2yrs of 26yr old TDA at $5M, but here we are. If they end up with Klingberg, they’re going to have to give him significant term.

I still don’t see it happening, but I’d prefer them to add Klingberg vs some of the other options in Burns or Petry. Maybe they have something else up their sleeve entirely. Who knows. They’ll be active no matter what today and this week.

Unless he truly believes he is a 7.5+ million dollar defender but is a victim of an awful system, wouldn’t it be smart to take a 1 year deal of 4.5-5 million then get a good contract afterwards? Instead a 7 years by 5.5 now? Sure it is a risk but we are a great situation for any defender wishing to recoup value

 

[raynman]

With no free agent interview period has the league just been like screw it we know there’s tampering and we don’t care anymore?

 

[Lempo]

Lots can happen between now and then. If we fall off or get pennywise with him, I can see it happening.

I go only by that I presume to know how a Finnman's brain works. Aho got a good thing going in Raleigh.

 

[spockBokk]

Unless he truly believes he is a 7.5+ million dollar defender but is a victim of an awful system, wouldn’t it be smart to take a 1 year deal of 4.5-5 million then get a good contract afterwards? Instead a 7 years by 5.5 now? Sure it is a risk but we are a great situation for any defender wishing to recoup value

In this market, is he not a $7.5M D?

I think you could easily make the argument that he is being a RHD and consistently putting up 40pts+. He has a better track record than Faulk did when Faulk got his $6.5M. The market has only gone up since then.

I don’t see the Canes coming anywhere close to $7.5M, but I could easily see him getting that or even more on the open market. To me, there’s way too much risk in taking a 1yr deal vs the sure things he’ll be offered today.

 

[Lempo]

With no free agent interview period has the league just been like screw it we know there’s tampering and we don’t care anymore?

That is probaly the correct answer. But, I don't exactly know if they have been officially allowed to talk with teams since the midnight, and noon is specifically the opening of the signing period.

Unofficially, the agents' and GMs' very job is to know the market and who's available and at what price and term, which knowledge they have magically amassed during the season.

 

[MadeUpName]

I see a 1% chance of Carolina signing Klingberg. There is no way they are outbidding Seattle. Klingberg would really have to want to win to take Carolina's offer.

Klingberg is an upgrade to DeAngelo but a downgrade to Hamilton. If Carolina only offered Hamilton ~$7 million then I would guess that is their ceiling for Klingberg.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

In this market, is he not a $7.5M D?

I think you could easily make the argument that he is being a RHD and consistently putting up 40pts+. He has a better track record than Faulk did when Faulk got his $6.5M. The market has only gone up since then.

I don’t see the Canes coming anywhere close to $7.5M, but I could easily see him getting that or even more on the open market. To me, there’s way too much risk in taking a 1yr deal vs the sure things he’ll be offered today.

Based on his defensive peripherals, no he isn’t a 1RD right now. Yzerman doesn’t give egregious contracts. While Francis has more money to play with than his time here, he doesn’t seem like an egregious contract giver either. If those are the three teams being mentioned, I don’t see any of them giving that much AAV.

 

[MadeUpName]

Based on his defensive peripherals, no he isn’t a 1RD right now. Yzerman doesn’t give egregious contracts. While Francis has more money to play with than his time here, he doesn’t seem like an egregious contract giver either. If those are the three teams being mentioned, I don’t see any of them giving that much AAV.

Klingberg would be a great 1RD next to Slavin. What peripherals show that he lacks that potential? I'd trust Tulsky and Waddell on that one.

I see Seattle offering $8+ million x 7 years. Basically whatever Klingberg wants. I would guess Carolina is offering $6.5 million x 3-5 years.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I don’t see it. I assume what he’s looking for is money and lots of it. That ain’t us.

 

[Svechhammer]

And he will.

With all due respect, your pessimism is way over the top lately. Maybe take a break from these boards for a while, you are clearly way too caught up in your feelings about TDA being traded.

Stop trying to poison the well for everyone else.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I could see Klingberg for 6 or 7 years at a a discounted AAV. He gets term and still big money but gets to contend too which he wouldn’t do in Detroit or Seattle. Hopefully his market is worse than he thinks it is. Like you guys I like him but not if the cost is too high. 5.5-6 is ideally the most we would do

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

With all due respect, your pessimism is way over the top lately. Maybe take a break from these boards for a while, you are clearly way too caught up in your feelings about TDA being traded.

Stop trying to poison the well for everyone else.

The ignore feature works wonders. Our fan base is pretty great on here, though. Think I’ve only ignored like one other person before. Reading constant raging or endless pessimism gets old after a while.

 

[Svechhammer]

The ignore feature works wonders. Our fan base is pretty great on here, though. Think I’ve only ignored like one other person before. Reading constant raging or endless pessimism gets old after a while.

If it keeps up I'm going to have to. It's gotten so bad lately that it's just suffocating.

It would be different if it were a bunch of frustrated people but it's just one guy pissed off that Tony DeAngelo wasn't resigned.

 

[spockBokk]

I could see Klingberg for 6 or 7 years at a a discounted AAV. He gets term and still big money but gets to contend too which he wouldn’t do in Detroit or Seattle. Hopefully his market is worse than he thinks it is. Like you guys I like him but not if the cost is too high. 5.5-6 is ideally the most we would do

I think they’d potentially go up to $6.75M for Klingberg, don’t see them going to $7M. They’d likely have to offer at least 6yrs of term and they just don’t seem to do that. For that reason, Klingberg probably signs elsewhere.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

The ignore feature works wonders. Our fan base is pretty great on here, though. Think I’ve only ignored like one other person before. Reading constant raging or endless pessimism gets old after a while.

I once tried to ignore everyone on the board. It got boring, but at least the posters I could see (me) were agreeing with my views.