Erik Karlsson vs Luke Schenn

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[leafsfuture]

Let me sum up this thread:

- Ottawa fans keep saying this discussion is not even close
- Leaf fans keep bringing up Schenns 3 point night
- Kim sambo keeps arguing that Schenns offense will be that of a Phillips, Staal, etc, even though that his stage in their proression, they were behind. Sambo follows that up by saying he knows Schenn will not approve because he has seen them.
- Leaf fans flame

 

[bobermay]

Let me sum up this thread:

- Ottawa fans keep saying this discussion is not even close
- Leaf fans keep bringing up Schenns 3 point night
- Kim sambo keeps arguing that Schenns offense will be that of a Phillips, Staal, etc, even though that his stage in their proression, they were behind. Sambo follows that up by saying he knows Schenn will not approve because he has seen them.
- Leaf fans flame

In all fairness, its only been me to do that . I use it as a rebutal to sens fan's claiming that Schenn has no offensuve potential or upside.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

In all fairness, its only been me to do that . I use it as a rebutal to sens fan's claiming that Schenn has no offensuve potential or upside.

Anton Volchenkov had 2 career 3 point nights and he handles the puck like a grenade.

 

[General Borschevsky]

In all fairness, its only been me to do that . I use it as a rebutal to sens fan's claiming that Schenn has no offensuve potential or upside.

You really shouldn't. It wasn't even that impressive. He's made much better plays that didn't happen to lead directly to a goal or youtube highlight.

 

[TheOriginalSilf*]

Anton Volchenkov had 2 career 3 point nights and he handles the puck like a grenade.

/Thread.

 

[trentmccleary]

- Kim sambo keeps arguing that Schenns offense will be that of a Phillips, Staal, etc, even though that his stage in their proression, they were behind.

HUH? Phillips was much better offensively in the whl and comparable in the NHL at this point in Schenn's career.

 

[KesselySnipes]

HUH? Phillips was much better offensively in the whl and comparable in the NHL at this point in Schenn's career.

That was over 15 years ago. If you're going to call someone out, try not to sound ridiculous yourself.

As for this thread, nothing really needs to be said at this point as this has turned into a complete ****show.

 

[General Borschevsky]

HUH? Phillips was much better offensively in the whl and comparable in the NHL at this point in Schenn's career.

He did get an extra year in the Dub though. Not that it matters, obviously, since its stupid to compare point totals for defencemen coming out of junior, particularly in different eras.

That was over 15 years ago. If you're going to call someone out, try not to sound ridiculous yourself.

As for this thread, nothing really needs to be said at this point as this has turned into a complete ****show.

To be fair, it was the Leaf fan who made the comparison first.

 

[KesselySnipes]

To be fair, it was the Leaf fan who made the comparison first.

My bad. I assumed it was a comparison that was made earlier on. Then again I only skimmed through this thread, but can you really blame me? haha... Any thread that pits one Canadian team's prospect against another always ends up in a big pile of troll.

Radical thought: maybe they're both awesome prospects that have a lot of potential to grow as they get older? I dunno... that seems like the most likely scenario in my opinion. I would love to have Karlsson on the Leafs and I assume Ottawa fans wouldn't mind having Schenn either... at least the rational fans on either side should think that way.

As an aside: I'm beginning to realize that most posters here aren't fans of hockey in general, but fans of their team exclusively. Usually debates end up as *insert other team's prospect here* is a bust and vice-versa. They should rename this place My Team's Future because at least that paints a more accurate picture... but I digress..

 

[General Borschevsky]

As an aside: I'm beginning to realize that most posters here aren't fans of hockey in general, but fans of their team exclusively. Usually debates end up as *insert other team's prospect here* is a bust and vice-versa. They should rename this place My Team's Future because at least that paints a more accurate picture.

Yeah, but what are you going to do. 3-4 years ago it was Meszaros versus Colaiacovo. This foolishness comes with the territory.

 

[Samsquanch]

HUH? Phillips was much better offensively in the whl and comparable in the NHL at this point in Schenn's career.

And its apparently its quite the insult the be compared to one of the NHL's best shut down guys who moves around pretty darn well for a big guy, and can move the puck up the ice pretty well when given the opportunity.

- Kim sambo keeps arguing that Schenns offense will be that of a

Heyyy I see what ya did there ...

 

[Langdon Alger]

My bad. I assumed it was a comparison that was made earlier on. Then again I only skimmed through this thread, but can you really blame me? haha... Any thread that pits one Canadian team's prospect against another always ends up in a big pile of troll.

Radical thought: maybe they're both awesome prospects that have a lot of potential to grow as they get older? I dunno... that seems like the most likely scenario in my opinion. I would love to have Karlsson on the Leafs and I assume Ottawa fans wouldn't mind having Schenn either... at least the rational fans on either side should think that way.

As an aside: I'm beginning to realize that most posters here aren't fans of hockey in general, but fans of their team exclusively. Usually debates end up as *insert other team's prospect here* is a bust and vice-versa. They should rename this place My Team's Future because at least that paints a more accurate picture... but I digress..

The flaw in this argument is that you are actually using logic and not being a complete homer. That's not how things work around here.

 

[kyle747]

Excuse me? Did I call Schenn a star player? He's a developing young talent, just like Karlsson. If he was 26 or 27 you might have a point about him being an "ordinary" player, but he's not. His game has come along considerably since his rookie season.

It's too bad you're not paying attention.

I read you, but you have leaf-colored glasses on.

Karlsson is in another stratosphere from Schenn. Karlsson is already a young star in this league, having lead his team into the playoffs and scored 6 in 6.

 

[Amadeus]

I read you, but you have leaf-colored glasses on.

Karlsson is in another stratosphere from Schenn. Karlsson is already a young star in this league, having lead his team into the playoffs and scored 6 in 6.

I'm a fan of Karlsson but he's not a young star in this league yet. Patrick Kane, Jonathan Teows and Steven Stamkos are young stars. That is an extremely overrating statement.

And Schenn is a defensive defenseman, not an offensive defenseman.

Just a bad comparison.

 

[TheOriginalSilf*]

I read you, but you have leaf-colored glasses on.

Karlsson is in another stratosphere from Schenn. Karlsson is already a young star in this league, having lead his team into the playoffs and scored 6 in 6.

Alright, now we're taking it a bit too far. Schenn is still an great defensive defenceman, and he's still just as young as EK. In my honest opinion, Karlsson has a higher ceiling than Schenn but I still don't understand why this thread is going to be quite honest.

Karlsson - Young offensive defenceman, who can be a top pairing guy.
Schenn - Young defensive defenceman, who can be a top pairing guy (less likely, in my opinion)

But these two are both great prospects that fit the bill of what their team needs. End of story. We can argue point totals and claim we know who's going to be the better player, but truth of that matter is, none of us truly know yet. That's why they're considered "prospects"! Now, let's wait a few more seasons in the big leagues before we truly judge who's better.

 

[StIllmatic]

imma go with Karlsson on this one, his two way game isn't that bad from what isaw. he will be a #1 d soon for the sens

 

[General Borschevsky]

But these two are both great prospects that fit the bill of what their team needs. End of story. We can argue point totals and claim we know who's going to be the better player, but truth of that matter is, none of us truly know yet. That's why they're considered "prospects"! Now, let's wait a few more seasons in the big leagues before we truly judge who's better.

This I can agree with. It's impossible to argue against this, its the truth.

 

[trentmccleary]

- Kim sambo keeps arguing that Schenns offense will be that of a Phillips, Staal, etc, even though that his stage in their proression, they were behind.

That was over 15 years ago. If you're going to call someone out, try not to sound ridiculous yourself.

Who cares how long ago it was? leafsfuture made the comparison and I responded. Neither of youy have made a case as to why anybody should think that Schenn's offensive game will improve substantially... and certainly not to the "40-45 point" (Top-25 D-men in the league level).

He did get an extra year in the Dub though. Not that it matters, obviously, since its stupid to compare point totals for defencemen coming out of junior, particularly in different eras.

Yeah, but Schenn is very early in his career and there's not a whole heck of a lot else to compare to because of that.

You have Phillips & Schenn's pre-draft year... and Phillips rookie season & Schenn's 2nd season. Those are the only points at which these two played at comparable levels at the same time. In the NHL season, they were equal. In the WHL, Phillips was producing noticeably more. Those are the only comparison possible between these two right now.

 

[zeke]

It is quite funny to see the same Sens fanbase that used to rip on Kaberle in comparison to any of their defensemen, now praise Karlsson to high heaven.

 

[Asquaredx2]

It is quite funny to see the same Sens fanbase that used to rip on Kaberle in comparison to any of their defensemen, now praise Karlsson to high heaven.

You mean that same Karlsson who "can't outscore Schenn"?

 

[bobermay]

You mean that same Karlsson who "can't outscore Schenn"?

Find me a post On these boards of anybody saying that.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Still Karlsson by a country mile. Maybe more.

 

[The Expert]

It is quite funny to see the same zeke that used to rip on Phillips in comparison to any of their defensemen, now praise Schenn to high heaven.

That was easy.

 

[zeke]

where did you see me praise Schenn to high heaven?