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By all descriptions, Meldonium seems like a perfectly good and useful supplement for athletes to take. What's next banning the eating of carbs and protein before games because it adantageously fuels your body? Why not take a pill that will optimize you body's performance?
 
Namejs said:
I see that you've borrowed Kremlin's propaganda methods.

Just because you call the people actually responsible for analyzing drug tests 'idiots' and 'liars' constantly, it doesn't make it true and it sure doesn't help your cause. You're just looking like a very desperate and a very ignorant Russian apologetic.
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Kremlin propaganda is to accuse everyone of lying. Western Propaganda is to lie and pretend that they don't hear questions.:sarcasm:

I actually agree with a lot of what you say, and I think "bezalabernost'" or carelseness from russian staff is to blame here, and your point about latvian athletes is valid.
 
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ForsbergForever said:
By all descriptions, Meldonium seems like a perfectly good and useful supplement for athletes to take. What's next banning the eating of carbs and protein before games because it adantageously fuels your body? Why not take a pill that will optimize you body's performance?
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Water, tuna, also chocolate for chess players
 
93LEAFS said:
Didn't Backstrom get flagged for sudafed, which is sold over the counter in most places.
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Yes but painkillers are consumed more readily than sudafeds. That's the only reason I mentioned them, they're very popular in terms of consumption. It seems that the banning of a near supplement is a bit targeted, but whatever the case, rules are rules, hopefully there will be some acts of reinstation after the lab tests come out.
 
kabidjan18 said:
Yes but painkillers are consumed more readily than sudafeds. That's the only reason I mentioned them, they're very popular in terms of consumption. It seems that the banning of a near supplement is a bit targeted, but whatever the case, rules are rules, hopefully there will be some acts of reinstation after the lab tests come out.
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NHL guys used to take sudafed like skittles and in bulk until the crackdown. I wouldn't be surprised if since the crackdown many have been "diagnosed" with ADHD, for access to a replacement.
 
Zine said:
Wow, just wow. That's some cold war level propaganda right there. :amazed::amazed:

Malamud is a dirtbag, with the integrity of a tabloid.
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Well, I was also disgusted by this. I do not really understand the need for such programming in Canada. All Russians are cheaters? Is this how they roll again?
As for Malamud (sounded as if they called him Malibu), he is just an American blogger who wasn't even born in Russia, however he calls himself a Russian sports writer and calls Russia his own country, then provides clearly Russophobic comments - isn't it fraudulent? I am sure that now with the level of anti-Russian hysteria being so high we will be hearing from this "expert" quite a bit.
 
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Siberian said:
Well, I was also disgusted by this. I do not really understand the need for such programming in Canada. All Russians are cheaters? Is this how they roll again?
As for Malamud (sounded as if they called him Malibu), he is just an American blogger who wasn't even born in Russia, however he calls himself a Russian sports writer and calls Russia his own country, then provides clearly Russophobic comments - that is fraudulent. I am sure that now with the level of anti-Russian hysteria being so high we will be hearing from this "expert" quite a bit.
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That was pretty bad. And, naturally, they had to bring the anti-Christ Putin into the discussion. LOL
 
I really feel sorry for those fine young Russians. Must be tough to have heart issues at such a young age!
 
Tomas W said:
I really feel sorry for those fine young Russians. Must be tough to have heart issues at such a young age!
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To be fair, if you've read through this thread, supposedly millions of Russian citizens also use meldonium for good cardiovascular health.
 
Hanji said:
That was pretty bad. And, naturally, they had to bring the anti-Christ Putin into the discussion. LOL
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As a Canadian I was pretty disgusted the way they brought Putin into this as well. I'm really sure Putin had any involvement or knowledge into this with all the **** going on in the world today... like Ukraine and Syria.

It seems like the media is programmed to demonize Putin/Russia at every opportunity.
 
TerminatorBlue said:
As a Canadian I was pretty disgusted the way they brought Putin into this as well. I'm really sure Putin had any involvement or knowledge into this with all the **** going on in the world today... like Ukraine and Syria.

It seems like the media is programmed to demonize Putin/Russia at every opportunity.
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I think Putin pays them to make him even more popular, than he is...
 
Finally, Mutko gave some reasonable explanation: http://www.sports.ru/football/1038901527.html?&hc_method=3
Basically he said what I thought Tretyak should have said yesterday. That they didn't know how long it takes for meldonium to leave the body COMPLETELY so they just minimized the risks. They didn't want young hockey players to be disqualified for 2-4 years for nothing. A lot of athletes said they had stopped taking it months before it was banned. The information about several hours or days was inaccurate because it's a half-life period. It was designed as a drug, not for doping, so it has never tested for COMPLETE excretion from blood. It's a huge mistake for WADA and our officials and lobbyists. They should have known better.
 
Jussi said:
No, it was for pseudoefedrine that came as a result of him overdosing/misdosing his allergy medicine.
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Not sure if it's possible to overdose on allergy meds. hell, I can take a freaking box of claritin in a day and it doesn't stop my nose from being a faucet.

I believe it was a Canadian rower at the Olympics that took sudafed, iirc.
 
Garl said:
Are you a spambot telling people how to earn a fortune in the internet?
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No. I`m just telling people that russian hockey players not always plays like Gods. It`s enough to get many minuses to own comments in russian hockey thread.
 
Meldonium is the greatest super miracle drug in the history of sport, which is why Russians in the NHL literally skate their poor, pathetic rivals from Canada, Finland, the United States and everywhere else into the ice on every shift. Have you ever noticed how Canadian and Finnish NHL players in the NHL have to be helped to the bench after every shift because they complain of being "too tired," while the Meldonium-fueled Russians, who have to be restrained from skating the full 60 minutes at super turbo speed, sprint up and down the stairs in the arena in between shifts, in their skates, in order to release the pent-up energy from Meldonium?

You would think other NHL players would have caught on and started ingesting buckets of Meldonium before every game, but I guess they're just not that bright!
 
Yakushev72 said:
Meldonium is the greatest super miracle drug in the history of sport, which is why Russians in the NHL literally skate their poor, pathetic rivals from Canada, Finland, the United States and everywhere else into the ice on every shift. Have you ever noticed how Canadian and Finnish NHL players in the NHL have to be helped to the bench after every shift because they complain of being "too tired," while the Meldonium-fueled Russians, who have to be restrained from skating the full 60 minutes at super turbo speed, sprint up and down the stairs in the arena in between shifts, in their skates, in order to release the pent-up energy from Meldonium?

You would think other NHL players would have caught on and started ingesting buckets of Meldonium before every game, but I guess they're just not that bright!
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So why are hundreds of Russian athletes and at least one entire team of kids taking this **** if it doesn't actually do anything? This stretches the bounds of credulity.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Meldonium is the greatest super miracle drug in the history of sport, which is why Russians in the NHL literally skate their poor, pathetic rivals from Canada, Finland, the United States and everywhere else into the ice on every shift. Have you ever noticed how Canadian and Finnish NHL players in the NHL have to be helped to the bench after every shift because they complain of being "too tired," while the Meldonium-fueled Russians, who have to be restrained from skating the full 60 minutes at super turbo speed, sprint up and down the stairs in the arena in between shifts, in their skates, in order to release the pent-up energy from Meldonium?

You would think other NHL players would have caught on and started ingesting buckets of Meldonium before every game, but I guess they're just not that bright!
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Meldonium works until late in any game vs. Finland evidently...

I have not noticed Canadian and Finnish players needing assistance to the bench, at all. But your comment was pretty cute I'll admit. In the history of sports there have been steroids, HGH, raising the mount of home runs a baseball player could hit in a single season by more than 40%, oh, and there's this one drug meldonium, that sometimes gives some Russians slightly better stamina, unless the team on the other side is wearing white and blue of course.
 
Meldonium explains Russia's comeback in 2008 World Championship in Quebec. They were down 4:2 with 10 minutes left in the game and then out of nowhere Russia's Tereschenko (Tereshenko, Karl!) made it 4:3 and Kovy tied the game. Meldonium fuelled Russians skated circles around exhausted Canadians, there was simply not enough oxygen in the bloodstream of Canadian players, compared with oxygen filled Russians. As was expected further in a logical way Russia easily forced Canada to take a penalty in OT and Kovy, full of energy and strength easily sent a wrister past Ward.
 
Siberian said:
Meldonium explains Russia's comeback in 2008 World Championship in Quebec. They were down 4:2 with 10 minutes left in the game and then out of nowhere Russia's Tereschenko (Tereshenko, Karl!) made it 4:3 and Kovy tied the game. Meldonium fuelled Russians skated circles around exhausted Canadians, there was simply not enough oxygen in the bloodstream of Canadian players, compared with oxygen filled Russians. As was expected further in a logical way Russia easily forced Canada to take a penalty in OT and Kovy, full of energy and strength easily sent a wrister past Ward.
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Kovy could've used some of that energy in 2014 against the states...

...so Finland in 2010 was also using meldonium when they came from down 3-1 to beat Slovakia 5-3 in regulation in the last 14 minutes? Stop the nonsense, please, one game cannot be attributed to anything, you need a solid statistical trend to claim anything like that. I have no doubt that Meldonium helps, however, it is not the difference between running up and down stairs between shifts and having to be helped to the bench, neither was it the determining factor in 2008, because believe it or not comebacks happen.

It sounds like a fond memory of yours though, it was a good game.
 
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