Captain Crunch
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I believe either a player has the internal drive to always give it his all, or he doesn't. It's not something that he can develop, and I don't believe Nylander has it, nor will he ever.
Enough excuses for Andersen and Nylander
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BlueBaron
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Tavares has been a bigger problem than Nylander when it comes to the 2nd line.
I'm convinced Freddy is the biggest problem on the team right now.
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You could be right. I am taking an eternal optimist approach this season.
I hope thwy continue to build on the 200ft game they are trying to play over the next 40 games and somewhat master it to help shelter Freddie in the playoffs.
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I think many of us were very disappointed with last night's game and when that happens we tend to focus our attention on a few players that have been lightening rods for our discontent. I think if some of us begin to understand that players like Nylander, Andersen, Rielly, and Tavares are not elite, then the hyperbole will be tempered. We only have two elite players, Matthews and Marner. It's up to Keefe to find that 3rd line centre that will create some productivity from the third line. Perhaps try Spezza there for a 3 game stretch. In any case, Andersen and Nylander have shown inconsistencies in their games that will not disappear because they are who they are, i.e. not elite.
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Tavares actually has the lowest GF/60 of all the regulars:
Surprisingly, JT has been one of our stingiest players for GA/60:
Bigger picture, when looking at actual scoring chances for vs against, JT is middle of the pack. Marner has been DOMINANT, while our 3rd line has been complete ass.
Surprisingly, JT has been one of our stingiest players for GA/60:
Bigger picture, when looking at actual scoring chances for vs against, JT is middle of the pack. Marner has been DOMINANT, while our 3rd line has been complete ass.
I ain't even that worried about Nylander. We've all seen he can take his game to another level.
I'm really not sure why this thread has Nylander and Freddy lumped together, seems strange.
stickty111
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Agreed.
He's only lumped in because of his personal dislike for WN. His description was hilarious about him.
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He's pointless in 5, and has 2 goals/4 points his last 10 games.
Other than his hot start (5 points in his first 4 games), he has most CERTAINLY been a concern.
BlueBaron
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Only if you think his talent has suddenly vanished. It sure isn't reason to panic. Players have cold spells all the time, it's part of the sport.
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But Nylander is one season removed from having an entire 54 game season "cold spell". Other than his 4 game hot start, he's looked a lot like that Nylander this year. It's a legitimate reason for concern.
This the problem that I have with Nylander and he is not elite. This is what I am getting at.
Nylander has looked fine, he's just not producing. I think he can still play better though as I think he's good enough to atleast drag JT to more than 1 5v5 goals on the season.
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The first and second period of yesterdays game was the worst JT had looked in a Leaf jersey. I noticed a big difference in his play in the third.
As for Nylander, I thought his last 2 games were mediocre. Forget the couple scoring chances, it's about all the small missed plays to keep the puck or win a puck battle. Yesterday was one of those game where he refused to engage along the boards and was looking for the puck to come to him. Games like those he needs to get into the dirty area's a lot more. I absolutely hated the play where Hyman did the dump from his side of the Leafs blue line, but Nylander who was almost side by side 2 sens on the Sens blue line refused to chase down the puck to avoid an icing. It was LAZY. He is a great winger, he just goes through these lulls of lack of interest in hard work.
As for Nylander, I thought his last 2 games were mediocre. Forget the couple scoring chances, it's about all the small missed plays to keep the puck or win a puck battle. Yesterday was one of those game where he refused to engage along the boards and was looking for the puck to come to him. Games like those he needs to get into the dirty area's a lot more. I absolutely hated the play where Hyman did the dump from his side of the Leafs blue line, but Nylander who was almost side by side 2 sens on the Sens blue line refused to chase down the puck to avoid an icing. It was LAZY. He is a great winger, he just goes through these lulls of lack of interest in hard work.
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Ohhh did he ever. He looks completely frustrated playing with Nylander. Just sayin. Nylander is in the softest ice all the time. No support coming for Tavares in tight quarters. Nylander is as far away from the dirty areas as he can get. I hate the f*** out of Nylander right now. Yellow streak in him longer than the stripe on a Mounties leg
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Hes currently on pace for 61 points......
A pace 10 less than last year. Worthy of critique but let's not exaggerate things
BlueBaron
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His anomalous hold out year? I mean he was almost a point a game last year. This is what irrational panic sounds like. He has 12 points in 16 games....
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Andersen is just bad. Won't even bat an eye when he leaves in the summer. I've had enough of him.
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