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Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Milan Lucic (7 years, $6.000M AAV)

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aufheben said:
Not unless his point totals skyrocket from playing with McDavid, which is entirely possible but not certain.
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He is worth it now, why would his pint totals have to "skyrocket"?

Now that it is known that the Kings offered 8 years and multiple teams offered more money, including Montreal, will people just shut up and admit the Oilers got a decent deal here. Pretty freaking sweet to sign the top UFA Dman last year and the top UFA forward this year for less money than other teams were offering. Thank you Connor McDavid and new arena.
 
nabob said:
He is worth it now, why would his pint totals have to "skyrocket"?

Now that it is known that the Kings offered 8 years and multiple teams offered more money, including Montreal, will people just shut up and admit the Oilers got a decent deal here. Pretty freaking sweet to sign the top UFA Dman last year and the top UFA forward this year for less money than other teams were offering. Thank you Connor McDavid and new arena.
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Because his average point production over the last 4 years is barely 1st line production and he's making $6M a year with a NMC?
 
South Indian Stunna said:
I don't get into the contours of line combos....but holy hell is our forward group deep. Elite. Probably top-5 in the league.

Just wish our defense could be propelled from bottom-barrel (even with Larsson) to middle-of-the-pack.....
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Honestly, I love (and miss) Hall, but the Hall for Larsson swap makes us a better team without killing any of our forward depth.
 
aufheben said:
Because his average point production over the last 4 years is barely 1st line production and he's making $6M a year with a NMC?
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55 points was good for 13th in the league in points from a left wing.

55 points is first line numbers.
 
Term is obviously a risk but I think he'll bring a lot to the Oilers. Really liked him in LA but there was no way to pay him a contract like that.
 
aufheben said:
Because his average point production over the last 4 years is barely 1st line production and he's making $6M a year with a NMC?
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2011-12: 14th among LWs
2012-13: 23rd among LWs
2013-14: 13th among LWs
2014-15: 29th among LWs
2015-16: 13th among LWs

Nothing "barely" about it- guy produces at his position as well as anyone.
 
The lack of understanding by some people is very puzzling.
Lucic will put up similar numbers to Hall AND makes our overall forward group more balanced with size and skill. The gap between Lucic and Hall is very small compared to the gap between Larsson and Demers. Just signing Demers would be like adding another sekera, good d but overpaid and not capable of playing top pairing.

Losing Hall sucks, but it was the right move in the grand scheme of making this team competitive again.
 
6 God said:
Honestly, I love (and miss) Hall, but the Hall for Larsson swap makes us a better team without killing any of our forward depth.
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If Tyler Benson can continue to develop, I feel we're going to be missing Hall a lot less.....not because Benson projects as a similar elite talent (I don't see him as more than a 2nd liner), but because as good as Hall was- he was still only our 2nd best forward. It's only positional depth on LW that impairs our success as a team after that trade.....much less already now that we have Lucic.

Besides, we got yet another elite winger prospect with Puljujarvi.
 
Slush said:
Keyword is might. I will believe it when I see it.
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Yup, thank you.

The thing I'm more excited about is the player composition. the last 10 years we've had soft, speedy players that couldn't handle themselves physically. With Kassian, Lucic, Maroon we seem to building into an identity that will work in today's NHL. Im extremely happy about this and perhaps looking forward to next season more than another year, including last year.

Taylor Hall was great player but there have rumblings of character issues for years and I tend to buy into where there's smoke there is fire. Sad to see him go, but his leaving was nesscessary. The return is unimportant, Larsson will be great for us, but more importantly it sends a message to the rest of the old core that anything is possible for the betterment of the team and you can't do whatever you want now.
 
nabob said:
He is worth it now, why would his pint totals have to "skyrocket"?

Now that it is known that the Kings offered 8 years and multiple teams offered more money, including Montreal, will people just shut up and admit the Oilers got a decent deal here. Pretty freaking sweet to sign the top UFA Dman last year and the top UFA forward this year for less money than other teams were offering. Thank you Connor McDavid and new arena.
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There are actually quite a few non-Oiler posters who said this is a decent deal for us. It's the typical Oiler haters that are coming in here and knocking this deal... and a few others that are entitled to their opinion, provided they are being consistent is the Eriksson, Ladd, Okposo and especially the Backes threads.
 
zar said:
There are actually quite a few non-Oiler posters who said this is a decent deal for us. It's the typical Oiler haters that are coming in here and knocking this deal... and a few others that are entitled to their opinion, provided they are being consistent is the Eriksson, Ladd, Okposo and especially the Backes threads.
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especially when LA offered 8 years, montreal offered more money and he made 6.5m last year.
 
nabob said:
He is worth it now, why would his pint totals have to "skyrocket"?

Now that it is known that the Kings offered 8 years and multiple teams offered more money, including Montreal, will people just shut up and admit the Oilers got a decent deal here. Pretty freaking sweet to sign the top UFA Dman last year and the top UFA forward this year for less money than other teams were offering. Thank you Connor McDavid and new arena.
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LA offered 8 years 34 mill which is 4,25 a year.
 
zar said:
There are actually quite a few non-Oiler posters who said this is a decent deal for us. It's the typical Oiler haters that are coming in here and knocking this deal... and a few others that are entitled to their opinion, provided they are being consistent is the Eriksson, Ladd, Okposo and especially the Backes threads.
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Lucic got the term he wanted. That was the price of getting him for the Oilers. Deal with his decline in play and cap situation in the future.

The risks of the deal are:

1) CBA now limits the variance between cap hit and salary paid. Think it is 35% difference. So, Lucic's lowest yearly compensation is just a shade under $4 million.
2) With that in mind, you can't know how the teams that have traditionally added these higher cap hit, lower salary contracts will be faring in 5 years. Arizona has a bunch of young talent in their system and should be competing within 5 years. Carolina is re-tooling. Building a solid looking blue line with Faulk, Hanifan, Bean, Fleury, etc who will be entering their prime in 5 years. They lack a big time forward to replace E. Staal. Florida appears to have turned a corner and they shipped out the Savard contract they acquired last year to NJ a couple weeks ago. So, their time of adding these contracts could be at an end given the talent they have on their roster now. LV, don't think they can survive if they don't ice a decent roster.
3) They can always buy out the final years of his contract. Just means that each year that they buyout, there will be $4 million spread over a 2 year period. Gives them a smaller margin of error on future contracts.

But, that is the price of doing business.
 
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