Confirmed with Link: [EDM/DET] Yamamoto and Kostin for Future Considerations

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I'm the last guy to defend Holland but I fully believe he tried to get Kostin to sign and the rumours about Kostin looking towards the KHL indicate to me he didn't have as much interest in signing here as we would've liked.

Whatever, see you never.

 

[Soundwave]

A player that wanted a contract we couldn't afford


Yamo was a goner and we all knew it. Sunk cost fallacy. Kostin cost us Samorukov lol. Sucks to lose him but he had an extremely high SH% and wanted too much cash. I will judge once I see how we use this space.

What space? That money goes straight into Bouchard and McLeod's bank account.

 

[Spawn]

You're fuming about losing Kostin? Lol

It’s not always easy finding quality bottom 6 depth outscoring. It was one of the Oilers biggest strengths last year and something the team has struggled with for years. Kostin was finally a win. And now he’s gone for nothing.

That sucks.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It’s not always easy finding quality bottom 6 depth outscoring. It was one of the Oilers biggest strengths last year and something the team has struggled with for years. Kostin was finally a win. And now he’s gone for nothing.

That sucks.

Maybe he just didn't want to stay here.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Hilarious. People talking about revisionist history when the whole narrative on these boards the past week was that the team didn't have the cap to sign Kostin or that the coach wouldn't play him anyway.

I wanted to keep him and trade McLeod myself if they were going to cost the same but whatever. Definitely wasn't a popular opinion on here.

 

[Spawn]

Maybe he just didn't want to stay here.

He was an RFA. He only had so many options. He didn’t have a case for an expensive arbitration reward.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He was an RFA. He only had so many options. He didn’t have a case for an expensive arbitration reward.

Yet those KHL rumours persisted. If true that's the sign of a guy who didn't think much of us.

 

[Drivesaitl]

A player that wanted a contract we couldn't afford


Yamo was a goner and we all knew it. Sunk cost fallacy. Kostin cost us Samorukov lol. Sucks to lose him but he had an extremely high SH% and wanted too much cash. I will judge once I see how we use this space.

You think it would be impossible to just sign Klim for 2M even say with term and pump and trade? Kostin has one of the best shots on the team. Put him on Drais wing once in awhile and see what he can do. The guy can snipe, even from distance and has quick delivery. Scored goals from nothing chances. Scored beauties. We had a mop of useless Yamamoto parked with Drai for years. Yet we couldn't find a way to use Klim and at worst pump and trade?

We lost Kostin, Not Samu. Kostin proved he was a player here. Anybody was in agreement with that as recently as weeks ago.

 

[Fourier]

You set him free if you are afraid of arbitration. Give him away last year rather than over term. 20 goals and 41 points playing almost all top 6 with two of the best players in the world. anyone scores 20 and 40 with those guys. But the oilers keep getting fooled by this.

To be a good gm you need to look ahead as well as looking at just this year. In any case it's done and he is gone.

I wish it were true that anyone scores 20 goals and 41 points just because of those guys. Especially with limited pp time. Since McDavid was drafted the only guys who have scored more ES goals in a year than Yamamoto were McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Hyman, Kane, Eberle, Hall and Maroon. In the two seasons prior to that year he had 16 ES goals in 81 games as well. For a young guy that is actually excellent production.

Not qualifying Yamamoto or JP would have been an option but both moves would have been very significantly criticized I expect.

 

[nturn06]

Hilarious. People talking about revisionist history when the whole narrative on these boards the past week was that the team didn't have the cap to sign Kostin or that the coach wouldn't play him anyway.

I wanted to keep him and trade McLeod myself if they were going to cost the same but whatever. Definitely wasn't a popular opinion on here.

If I am not mistaken, Kostin has arbitration rights, McLeod does not... We simply could nota fford to let Kostin apply for arbitration.

 

[Spawn]

You think it would be impossible to just sign Klim for 2M even say with term and pump and trade? Kostin has one of the best shots on the team. Put him on Drais wing once in awhile and see what he can do. The guy can snipe, even from distance and has quick delivery. Scored goals from nothing chances. Scored beauties. We had a mop of useless Yamamoto parked with Drai for years. Yet we couldn't find a way to use Klim and at worst pump and trade?

We lost Kostin, Not Samu. Kostin proved he was a player here. Anybody was in agreement with that as recently as weeks ago.

It’s amazing how quickly people have flipped on Kostin in the span of like 48 hours.

 

[The Hound]

Ken Holland y'all.

 

[nturn06]

He was an RFA. He only had so many options. He didn’t have a case for an expensive arbitration reward.

Just for curiosity, how much do you think he would have gotten in the arbitration?

 

[Spawn]

If I am not mistaken, Kostin has arbitration rights, McLeod does not... We simply could nota fford to let Kostin apply for arbitration.

Kostin doesn’t have a case for a high arbitration award. The risk was minimal.

 

[nturn06]

You think it would be impossible to just sign Klim for 2M even say with term and pump and trade? Kostin has one of the best shots on the team. Put him on Drais wing once in awhile and see what he can do. The guy can snipe, even from distance and has quick delivery. Scored goals from nothing chances. Scored beauties. We had a mop of useless Yamamoto parked with Drai for years. Yet we couldn't find a way to use Klim and at worst pump and trade?

We lost Kostin, Not Samu. Kostin proved he was a player here. Anybody was in agreement with that as recently as weeks ago.

I do not believe there is a market for Kostin at 2M.

 

[fresh meat]

kostin’s nhl career was revived with the oilers picking him up and giving him an opportunity to play. consider the extremely small sample size of his nhl career, expecting to be paid as you’ve put it is abit premature and has tones of entitlement. playing the khl card also probably didn’t win over holland either

bottom line - kostin was given a chance to succeed here and hopefully be part of a championship team and all he had to do is take a “bet on yourself” deal and get $$ on the next contract

It’s pretty difficult to take a “bet on yourself” contract when you know the coach is going to completely shaft you for no obvious reason.

 

[Drivesaitl]

It’s amazing how quickly people have flipped on Kostin in the span of like 48 hours.

Like I said completely revisionist views. Not sure why that happens as much as it does. Seems more a case of allegiance to what org does no matter what. But people were supporting the nature of Chiarelli and Eakins when they were here.

kostin was a fan favorite here his whole time here. You wouldn't know it today from some posters. Mind you well known GK isn't even a fan of the Oilers.

 

[Frank the Tank]

I liked Kostin, but this trade reinforces how valuable cap space remains in another flat cap off-season.

 

[nturn06]

Kostin doesn’t have a case for a high arbitration award. The risk was minimal.

I can see him actually getting 1.3-1.5 in the arbitration... That's not high, but it is too high for us.

And could even get worse, his numbers are not really much worse than Pulju/Yama, are they?

 

[CupofOil]

Didn't read the thread but let me guess: People who thought they'd have to attach picks to get rid of Yamamoto are now mad because he was traded for nothing?

Umm, I need to inquire about your profile picture. Ya know, for research.

 

[The Nuge]

It’s amazing how quickly people have flipped on Kostin in the span of like 48 hours.

I’m not sure I’d agree people have flipped on him per se. I think everyone still would love him back here if he would’ve signed for like around a million, but his ask of 2+ million is an easy pass. Ryan had 2 more goals than Kostin and signed for 900k

 

[Frank the Tank]

We'll also learn more about the Kostin contract situation when he signs in Detroit, KHL, or is awarded a contract in arbitration.

 

[Canovin]

Should have shipped out the 6th round pick instead of Kostin

 

[iCanada]

Stauffer suggesting Detroit is buying out Yams?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Should have shipped out the 6th round pick instead of Kostin

Probably not the choice.