Confirmed with Link: [EDM/DET] Yamamoto and Kostin for Future Considerations

[CROTT]

"Trade bashers" It wasn't a trade was it? It was a flatout jettison of players from a GM that painted himself in the corner. What do you mean trade? That infers getting something, anything back.

Cap space, is what Holland got in return from not having buy out Yamamoto.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Cap space, is what Holland got in return from not having buy out Yamamoto.

This is the most selective termed asset attained in trade I've ever heard about. NOBODY else considered this a trade. It was a dump, everybody calling it what it is, a dump. Adjust your thesaurus.

Plus Holland is the one that signed the Yama deal. its not like he should get an ounce of credit for pawning it off within a year. jebus the boot polishing.

 

[CROTT]

This is the most selective termed asset attained in trade I've ever heard about. NOBODY else considered this a trade. It was a dump, everybody calling it what it is, a dump. Adjust your thesaurus.

The cap only going up a million a year results in GMs having to do what needs to be done even for ~500k a year.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The cap only going up a million a year results in GMs having to do what needs to be done even for ~500k a year.

6.2M thrown at Yama was overpay anyway you slice it. its not like its unforeseen that there would be fall off. The player has rarely had value despite playing with generational superstars almost the whole time he's been here. Was an overpay the moment it happened. Was somebody going to pay Yams more? There wasn't even interest.

 

[CROTT]

6.2M thrown at Yama was overpay anyway you slice it. its not like its unforeseen that there would be fall off. The player has rarely had value despite playing with generational superstars almost the whole time he's been here. Was an overpay the moment it happened. Was somebody going to pay Yams more? There wasn't even interest.

Sigh, Yamomoto had 20 goals and 41 points that season he signed the deal and also PKs. Looking at it now after an injury riddled season that he wasn’t himself for most of it is point less, the Landeskog hit in the 2022 WCF really de railed his career.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Sigh, Yamomoto had 20 goals and 41 points that season he signed the deal and also PKs. Looking at it now after an injury riddled season that he wasn’t himself for most of it is point less, the Landeskog hit in the 2022 WCF really de railed his career.

It was an outlier season and I had no doubt it was. Said so several times. if Holland got fooled by that its of course on him. A 20 goal season being glued to generational superstars, the best players in the world, is not anything great. its the starting line. Even Mangiopane scored much more than that while playing with far lesser playres.

Yama pk's. He isn't even particularly good at it. He plays the minutes. He's often not the best option.

You look at one hit but Yams had multiple concussions in his career prior to that. He was always going to be an injury risk playing at his size, and with his style.

sigh

 

[Messrules11]

A few weeks ago Yams was playing with one of McDrai, today Yzerman buys him out. Too funny, makes Woody look pretty bad.

 

[TheBrew]

Kostin had some game. I liked what he brought to the team.

 

[Sra1974]

A few weeks ago Yams was playing with one of McDrai, today Yzerman buys him out. Too funny, makes Woody look pretty bad.

I think it makes Holland look worse. This is a team that was supposedly a cup contender that had a guy like Yams in it needed in the top 9. And nobody wants him. Do you think there’s a single Player on the Knights roster that the same could be said about?

Woody can only hunt with the weapons he is given.

 

[midnightcopper]

Sigh, Yamomoto had 20 goals and 41 points that season he signed the deal and also PKs. Looking at it now after an injury riddled season that he wasn’t himself for most of it is point less, the Landeskog hit in the 2022 WCF really de railed his career.

He didn't seem to be the same after that hit, which I thought was dirty at the time. A very unfortunate event. He could actually resign with Edmonton, but I suppose that would be an odd/awkward situation now.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

What the hell happened here? Was Kostin secretly some Sean Avery esque team cancer? I'm legit shocked he didn't get qualified. I'm guessing this is Yzerman repaying a favour for Kostin+some owed value for the AA deal or something.

 

[Messrules11]

I think it makes Holland look worse. This is a team that was supposedly a cup contender that had a guy like Yams in it needed in the top 9. And nobody wants him. Do you think there’s a single Player on the Knights roster that the same could be said about?

Woody can only hunt with the weapons he is given.

Well Holland looks bad for signing him no doubt, but Woody is the moron playing him.

 

[Sra1974]

Well Holland looks bad for signing him no doubt, but Woody is the moron playing him.

Who did you want playing in his place that was a better option that the GM gave him?

 

[iCanada]

What the hell happened here? Was Kostin secretly some Sean Avery esque team cancer? I'm legit shocked he didn't get qualified. I'm guessing this is Yzerman repaying a favour for Kostin+some owed value for the AA deal or something.

Eh I think it's less Kostin and more likely his agent hard misreading the market.

 

[Sra1974]

Eh I think it's less Kostin and more likely his agent hard misreading the market.

Which is amazing when you think about it. The cap is flat, the team is against that cap, and needing to win now. You are a complementary player, ehat did you think you would get. Well I guess by the measure of the Yams and Foegle contract, a Lot, so maybe I can’t blame him.

 

[Messrules11]

Who did you want playing in his place that was a better option that the GM gave him?

21

 

[Sra1974]

21

I guess if your criticism goes back to the regular season and not giving him more of a chance, that maybe holds true. It feels weird that he wasn’t given more of a shot, that may be more evident to the people who see him everyday. Doubt he was a true option in the playoffs but we will never know.

 

[Messrules11]

I guess if your criticism goes back to the regular season and not giving him more of a chance, that maybe holds true. It feels weird that he wasn’t given more of a shot, that may be more evident to the people who see him everyday. Doubt he was a true option in the playoffs but we will never know.

Exactly, he wasn’t really given a shot by Woody, yet time and again we saw Yams on the ice. Yzerman sees something, he went out of his way to get Yams and buy him out all just to acquire Kostin. Wonder what that does to our futures lol

 

[Duke74]

Dude scored the biggest goal of the playoffs for the Oilers lol

And he missed on about 50 setups from Draisaitl that could've made a difference in the Vegas series. But that's OK. Let's just shrug off another failure. Let's just run it back for another year.

 

[Duke74]

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[Yuke]

It was an outlier season and I had no doubt it was. Said so several times. if Holland got fooled by that its of course on him. A 20 goal season being glued to generational superstars, the best players in the world, is not anything great. its the starting line. Even Mangiopane scored much more than that while playing with far lesser playres.

Yama pk's. He isn't even particularly good at it. He plays the minutes. He's often not the best option.

You look at one hit but Yams had multiple concussions in his career prior to that. He was always going to be an injury risk playing at his size, and with his style.

sigh

So don't pay Yammy due to.his one good year but pay Kos for his 1 good year.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

And he missed on about 50 setups from Draisaitl that could've made a difference in the Vegas series. But that's OK. Let's just shrug off another failure. Let's just run it back for another year.

so did a lot of players, including Draisaitl who went went -7 in the final 3 games of that series

but let's pin this on Yamo

 

[Yuke]

so did a lot of players, including Draisaitl who went went -7 in the final 3 games of that series

but let's pin this on Yamo

No, you have this wrong. Play Kostin more and we win the cup

 

[Drivesaitl]

So don't pay Yammy due to.his one good year but pay Kos for his 1 good year.

You do realize this was Kostins first season of any length. You do realize he was 23 and far less GP. Yama has been around a longtime and hasn't accomplished much.

so did a lot of players, including Draisaitl who went went -7 in the final 3 games of that series

but let's pin this on Yamo

Because Yama almost always blows the beauty feeds. Maybe the difference is Drai scored 13 goals. yama didn't score. Par for the course.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

I can see the Kings signing Yamamoto in FA. That was the team he originally wanted to be drafted to, and he did a decent but noticeable role in the both the LA playoff series, which I'm sure they recognize

Kostin exodus really surprised me. I thought he was an integral part of the 1st round victory, and has had an immediate impact since getting called up. Ya he's probably asking for more money, but depending on the price tag, imo he deserves it. He's a rare breed in today's NHL.
We'll see what Detroit signs him for, as they're reportedly close to a deal. If it's anything under 3M on a mutli-year deal, I'm going to be implode