Confirmed with Link: [EDM/DET] Yamamoto and Kostin for Future Considerations

[ManofSteel55]

Yamo isn't signing here again. He'll go to an American team.

You're probably right. He'll go somewhere where the fans won't call him names when he goes cold.

 

[jeffff]

If Yams would sign here for a mil or less....you sign him. He was easy to pick on as a 3.1 mil player in the top 6 not doing much. But as a bottom 6 depth guy, he does have an upside..... I think you have to. The guys like him, which is important as well.

A team will sign him for 1.4-1.7.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Absolutely hard no to Yamamoto coming back. He's utterly useless in the playoffs, even more useless than in the regular season. As McDavid said, it's cup or bust and we need guys that can perform well in the playoffs, not liabilities like Yamamoto, who completely sewered the second line in those last 2-3 games against Vegas.

Also, I think the thing about Leon saying he likes to play with Yamamoto has been blown out of context. Draisaitl may have said this during 2020, when Yamamoto had his one good season, and, besides, Draisaitl would never throw a teammate under the bus. He once said that he loves playing with Kassian. Should we bring Kassian back, too?

Dude scored the biggest goal of the playoffs for the Oilers lol

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Dude scored the biggest goal of the playoffs for the Oilers lol

Well, Hyman did but it's definitely up there.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Dude scored the biggest goal of the playoffs for the Oilers lol

My son and I were at that game about 40 feet from the net. About two minutes before he scored I said “If Yamamoto gets one more f***ing shift I’m gonna scream”

 

[KCC]

Kostin is better topsix option than Yama is. He was showing this to be the case the few times he got elevated. Kostin could have been a cheap topsix option fill here and with a good shot and quick release would look good with Drai. Kostin also good at timing into slot for scoring opportunities.

I do agree that Kostin could have been a good top 6 option. In fact I thought that's what the team was trying to do as he continued to grow as a player. But with how limited they are with the cap and the hardball his agent tried to play Holland pretty much had no choice as he just couldn't afford him. Was a big fan of him and if he succeeds and becomes a really good top 6 player down the road I won't be surprised. The tools are there. I do feel like it was a wasted opportunity but oh well. What's done is done. lol

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Well, Hyman did but it's definitely up there.

Nah, series clinchers are bigger

 

[Tarus]

Detroit has 30 mill in cap space, but can't fit in Yamamoto at 3 mill for one year despite claiming they'd like to keep him and are buying him out

Sounds like Yzerman plans to go on a spending spree on the UFA market

 

[ManofSteel55]

Detroit has 30 mill in cap space, but can't fit in Yamamoto at 3 mill for one year despite claiming they'd like to keep him and are buying him out

Sounds like Yzerman plans to go on a spending spree on the UFA market

I wonder if that kind of spending spree could lead to him not qualifying Kostin and us getting a shot at re-signing him again anyway, ha ha.

 

[trick91]

I still fail to see how kostin even fits here when our left wingers are;

Kane
RNH
Holloway
Janmark
Foegle(I think he can play on the right but still)

 

[Tarus]

I still fail to see how kostin even fits here when our left wingers are;

Kane
RNH
Holloway
Janmark
Foegle(I think he can play on the right but still)

He plays mostly right wing. Like a lot of russian wingers, he likes playing on his off side.

Hyman actually prefers left wing too, despite shooting right himself.

 

[tiger_80]

Just some bizarre comments from Holland. Bemoaning the lack of contract space to keep players yet he signed guys like Campbell, Yama, etc to overpays to set up his own situation that he's complaining about. Also states that he likes Yama, felt that he was improving, the thought process is convuluted.

* Sigh*: Detroit looks for bigger role for Kostin, as Holland mourns loss of two useful forwards

Broberg not being traded in Edmonton, while Detroit looks for bigger role for Kostin

edmontonjournal.com

At least Yzerman knows what Kostin is. One of the GM's does. They have all kinds of uses for Kostin and plan to use him in bigger roles. "we haven't figured out yet where Yama fits" lol, complete opposite views.

Of course Detroit see Kostin as the value, and Yama the contract they had to add in order to obtain Kostin. Kostin will sign in Detroit and the GM is telling him that he'll get his minutes.

yeah, Yamamoto is this year's Kassian; Kostin is the big fat sweetener.

 

[Faelko]

Kostin not qualified is a bit funny….

 

[FlameChampion]

He plays mostly right wing. Like a lot of russian wingers, he likes playing on his off side.

Hyman actually prefers left wing too, despite shooting right himself.

I think Janmark played more “right wing” than Kostin from what I gathered during the season. Think the winger position change and fluctuate depending on the forecheck. I could be wrong though.

 

[Giggleplex]

Kostin not qualified is a bit funny….

What the heck is Stevie Y doing? From the outside it looks like he just incurred a $500,000 cap penalty for nothing.

 

[FlameChampion]

What the heck is Stevie Y doing? From the outside it looks like he just a $500,000 cap penalty for nothing.

Over 2 years. More like 1 mil. He could still sign Kostin before tomorrow but it doesn’t look like it. Strange sequence of events.

 

[harpoon]

NAMELY because we had duds like Khaira, Yama etc and any fill we could find taking up those spots. We had zero winger talent. That isn't the same as it not existing as a commodity, it just didnt exist here. Kostin would score 20 playing with Drai. he would've last season.

How is it that in your list of ‘duds’ you keep failing to mention that former top draft pick you spent so much time defending on the board? I mean if we are talking about ‘duds’ and ‘turds’ one name should spring straight to mind.

I liked Kostin too. But he doesn’t strike me as a very smart player. He’s like Foegele. Plays head down hockey. He might have scored twenty, but I don’t think it’s the foregone conclusion you are making it out to be. I guess we’ll never know.

 

[harpoon]

Detroit has 30 mill in cap space, but can't fit in Yamamoto at 3 mill for one year despite claiming they'd like to keep him and are buying him out

Sounds like Yzerman plans to go on a spending spree on the UFA market

That team is shit so he better spend his money well. Lol when Perron and Copp are two of your most important forwards. Feel sorry for Larkin.

 

[Yuke]

How is it that in your list of ‘duds’ you keep failing to mention that former top draft pick you spent so much time defending on the board? I mean if we are talking about ‘duds’ and ‘turds’ one name should spring straight to mind.

I liked Kostin too. But he doesn’t strike me as a very smart player. He’s like Foegele. Plays head down hockey. He might have scored twenty, but I don’t think it’s the foregone conclusion you are making it out to be. I guess we’ll never know.

Maybe Kostin gets signed under his qualifying number

 

[Drivesaitl]

How is it that in your list of ‘duds’ you keep failing to mention that former top draft pick you spent so much time defending on the board? I mean if we are talking about ‘duds’ and ‘turds’ one name should spring straight to mind.

I liked Kostin too. But he doesn’t strike me as a very smart player. He’s like Foegele. Plays head down hockey. He might have scored twenty, but I don’t think it’s the foregone conclusion you are making it out to be. I guess we’ll never know.

Not sure a decade later why the name keeps coming up. Anyway Kostin looked like he had some goods and I don't see him as head down. On the contrary Kostin has been pretty good at reading plays and cloaking into shooting position as well as reading hit opportunities.

Its not just the 14 goals he scored EV even with very limited minutes, and being bottomsix, its that so many times he's getting a solid shot off and giving goalies trouble. The guy has hands. Of course he has lots of intangibles that should get him at least niche minutes.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Not sure a decade later why the name keeps coming up. Anyway Kostin looked like he had some goods and I don't see it as head down. On the contrary Kostin has been pretty good at reading plays and cloaking into shooting position. Its not just the 14 goals he scored EV even with very limited minutes, and being bottomsix, its that so many times he's getting a solid shot off and giving goalies trouble. The guy has hands.

What’s kind of funny though his Detroit didn’t even qualify him. Sounds like Russia it is lol

 

[CROTT]

Not sure a decade later why the name keeps coming up. Anyway Kostin looked like he had some goods and I don't see it as head down. On the contrary Kostin has been pretty good at reading plays and cloaking into shooting position. Its not just the 14 goals he scored EV even with very limited minutes, and being bottomsix, its that so many times he's getting a solid shot off and giving goalies trouble. The guy has hands.

Kostin scored 7 of his 11 goals in the regular season over a 9 game stretch. Leaving him with 4 in the remaing 48 regular season games he played, that’s a seven goal pace. He had a hot month and didn’t do much outside of that. Also despite not playing special teams minutes he played over 9 minutes in 36 of 57 games played in the regular season. Seams the trade bashers like to throw around 6 mins TOI like that’s all he got every night.

 

[McDoused]

I like that Holland went from idiot to genius in the span of 24 hours.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Kostin scored 7 of his 11 goals in the regular season over a 9 game stretch. Leaving him with 4 in the remaing 48 regular season games he played, that’s a seven goal pace. He had a hot month and didn’t do much outside of that. Also despite not playing special teams minutes he played over 9 minutes in 36 of 57 games played in the regular season. Seams the trade bashers like to throw around 6 mins TOI like that’s all he got every night.

"Trade bashers" It wasn't a trade was it? It was a flatout jettison of players from a GM that painted himself in the corner. What do you mean trade? That infers getting something, anything back.

Plus Kostin was our 2nd leading EV goal scorer despite only getting average 7mins/night.

But you must have had to search hard to try to find a wrinkle in his goal scoring. Of course the bolded is wrong too. Kostin had 5 goals in December, 4 in January, and another 3 in the playoffs in only 12GP and again ALL of his goals are EV goals. Scored on limited minutes. Kostin scored goals EVERY month of the season except November. I'm not counting February because the player only played 5 games due to injury/being sat. He was a lot more regular contributor than you suggest.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Kostin not getting qualified tells me that Kostin and his agent are either being ridiculous and trying to land exactly where he wants to go or Kostin wanted to stay and overplayed his hand and might still re-sign with us. This could end up being Stevie Y throwing us a bone since we ate crap on the AA and Green deals.