Dumba hit on Pavelski

[JiricekSaveUs]

Higher quality source would be nice but looks like the head snaps back first.

His head snaps back from Hartman’s stick

 

[57special]

glad to see that the consensus opinion of fans with no dog in the fight(i.e. not Stars or wild) fans agree that it was not a 5. Most on here were saying it was a clean hit, and that the outcome was just unfortunate. I agree, but also know that big blow up hits, even when clean, often draw a penalty.

I was very glad to see Domi get penalized for his retaliation. Too often that goes uncalled.

 

[Drytoast]

I like a physical brand of hockey and like (Non-staged) fighting but I really disliked seeing Pavelski hit like that and it was worse to see him struggling to get up.

Maybe I am getting older or something.

Maybe if I saw it frame by frame and it was truly just from his head hitting the ice causing all the damage it might sit better but damn.

You are getting older or something.

Would you prefer Dumba politely tap Pavelski on the shoulder and warn him to prepare for a slight bump?

Hockey needs to have hitting come back. There needs to be consequences for not having awareness while you spend all your time focusing in on making some pretty play. And if Dallas doesn't like it, they can fight Dumba or hit people themselves.

This isn't icecapades.

 

[Zrhutch]

Gonna transfer what I said on the stars board to here-

Upon further review, i hate to say this, but that hit is both possibly legal and f***ed up. It’s like a 40 year old youth minister marrying an 18 year old student the day she graduates- clearly messed up and clearly f***ed up intentions, but by the book you could argue it’s legal.

Yes, he scooped into his head. Yes, the puck was gone so his only play there by laying a hit is to ruin the guys night. No, it wasn’t that late out of slow motion. I would argue a major due to intent to injure/result, but I’m not in the nhl. Regardless of severity of penalty, it calls for frontier justice. Can’t wait for Wednesday.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I love big hits and it’s omeof the reasons I started watching hockey years ago. BUT… hits that injure players and may even prevent them from havng a normal career is too much. Maybe I’m just getting old but I want to see it where there is still hitting and big hits but not hits that blow players up and scramble their brains . But how do you do that ? No idea how to keep big hits but prevent all injuries.

It's big guys flying around the ice at high speed on tiny blades sharp blades of steel and then launching themselves into one another.

It's a recipe for this kinda stuff.

 

[Ararana]

I despise Dumba as much as the next guy, but that's a clean hit. Maybe a tad late, but he got the minor penalty so there's nothing to talk about here.

Pavelski must have mashed potatoes for brains at this point.

 

[57special]

His head snaps back from Hartman’s stick

it was incidental, and unintentional by Hartman, but it really should have been him, not Dumba, who got the penalty, if anything was going to be called. Hartman's stick only rode up because of the hit, so i don't know how you can call him for a high stick.

If Pavelski hadn't gone down, there would've been no call. The refs did not put up their hands right away.

 

[Kranix]

back and to the left. back. and ..to the left

 

[57special]

Gonna transfer what I said on the stars board to here-

Upon further review, i hate to say this, but that hit is both possibly legal and f***ed up. It’s like a 40 year old youth minister marrying an 18 year old student the day she graduates- clearly messed up and clearly f***ed up intentions, but by the book you could argue it’s legal.

Yes, he scooped into his head. Yes, the puck was gone so his only play there by laying a hit is to ruin the guys night. No, it wasn’t that late out of slow motion. I would argue a major due to intent to injure/result, but I’m not in the nhl. Regardless of severity of penalty, it calls for frontier justice. Can’t wait for Wednesday.

And what's your opinion on Suter's cross checks to Kaprizov's ribs? I don't seem to hear you complaining about those, even though they were textbook penalties that went uncalled.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Late hit causing an injury should've kept it at a major. Refs are afraid to call the game in the playoffs.

 

[Chardo]

Wish Dumba was a shortstop. Box score would be epic.

 

[Troy McClure]

I don' think anybody likes to see players get injured.

I disagree. With how many people celebrate the kind of hits that cause these concussions, it's pretty hard to not conclude people like seeing these injuries.

 

[GooGooMuck]

From this angle you can see it was Hartman lifting the stick as the hit was coming so it was actually Pavelski's own stick that got driven into his face. Seems like more a freak accident, but it was head contact. Not saying it was definitely illegal, but I can see the argument. One of those hits that I wouldn't be shocked if the ruling went either way.

 

[MuckOG]

I disagree. With how many people celebrate the kind of hits that cause these concussions, it's pretty hard to not conclude people like seeing these injuries.

You can celebrate the hit while not celebrating the injury. Those two positions are not mutually exclusive. If Pavelski didn't hit his head on the ice after falling, this would be a non-issue.

 

[Troy McClure]

You can celebrate the hit while not celebrating the injury. Those two positions are not mutually exclusive.

Hits like this cause these injuries, so the many posts celebrating this kind of hit and wanting more of them back in the game are calling for more ugly concussions to return to the game.

 

[REALTALK81]

Tough to see Pavelski get hit like that. It was a touch late and by the boards but it was on the shoulder. You got to be careful in the playoffs. Players are finishing their checks at way higher rate and guys like Dumba like to go hunting.

 

[MuckOG]

Hits like this cause these injuries, so the many posts celebrating this kind of hit and wanting more of them back in the game are calling for more ugly concussions to return to the game.

So, what's your solution? Hard body checks need to be taken out of the game? This is a physical game, and injuries occur. That doesn't equate to celebrating injuries.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Tough to see Pavelski get hit like that. It was a touch late and by the boards but it was on the shoulder. You got to be careful in the playoffs. Players are finishing their checks at way higher rate and guys like Dumba like to go hunting.

Do they ever.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

“Clean” hit by the letter of the law, but a douchebag move as he was clearly trying to injure him.

DeBoer definitely told the team not to retaliate, so it’s probably unlikely we see any retribution.

I’m sure wild fans would keep their same tone if Benn ran Kaprizov like that.

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

I never know how to feel about these kind of hits. It was legal, but predatory. A pure "I don't care what's going on with the play, I'm gonna blow this guy up and if he dies he dies" kind of play. I hate these hits, but I don't think you can penalizing them heavily just based on whether they injure someone.

I'll say the ref took the right decision, but I'll still hate Dumba for it, with his stupid f***ing grin and his dumb "what did I do?" attitude.

 

[MuckOG]

“Clean” hit by the letter of the law, but a douchebag move as he was clearly trying to injure him.

DeBoer definitely told the team not to retaliate, so it’s probably unlikely we see any retribution.

I’m sure wild fans would keep their same tone if Benn ran Kaprizov like that.

Wild fans are familiar with opponents going after Kaprizov. Logan Stanley from the Jets about a month ago and Ryan Suter last night are just the two latest examples.

 

[Digitalbooya]

The side angle definitely shows primary contact is in the chest area. The over the top view doesn’t show it well at all.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Shoulder to shoulder is clean, But the lateness of the hit and the puck being nowhere in the vicinity of Pavelski makes this a very dirty hit. Scott Stevens Special minus the headshot.

 

[Wild11MN]

Didn't see it posted, but no discipline, as expected.

 

[Ban Hammered]

Dumba drives the stick into Pavelski plus other contact. I swear some people are experts at selective vision.

You being one of them...