Dumba hit on Pavelski

[63firebird]

Good hit, shoulder to shoulder. I'm surprised that Pavelski didnt seem to anticipate contact there. Guys finish checks every single game just as late, if not later, and I don't see this as a blindside hit.

Not blindsideat all. Tell me how a veteran doesn’t know what’s coming in an opponents corner? Stick snapped his head, not Dumba. Dumba fell backwards, not follow through head.

Man there is deranged fans here if they have onus on Pavelski for reason he was injured.

He was tied up with a different defender, 2nd defender came in with a blindside hit that started with shoulder but clearly made most contact with his jaw...at speed!

Alot of expert skaters here hey? I mean how did pavelski not stay on his skates to prevent hitting the ice...baffling questions.

Dumba also turtles to domi a few seconds disaster when domi wanted to fight, then jumped around the box like Rambo.

Trash hit and Trash player.

no. Stick snapped head. Dumba hit shoulder. Head was snapped back from stick. If Pav was not injured, wouldn’t a e been evenany call. Not blindside he’s skating towards Dumba. Why is e admiring pass? First playoff game?

Must've been Pavelski's, since they "reviewed" it and there was no high-sticking call on the play.

They did miss a clear high stick on Seguin, in either the 3rd period or first OT though. One of many missed calls last night.

manymissed calls. Suter cut kaps lip. Crosscheck to back. On and on. Dallas was doing a lot of diving

 

[NordiquesForeva]

True, but they also missed the two cross checks by Suter on Kaprizov as well.

Those weren't missed calls, the referee was looking right at them for at least one of the plays. What it was, was the referee allowing Dallas to extract their pound of flesh as retribution from one of Minny's star players within the context of the game. Kaprizov/Boldy became targets for that kind of play immediately after the Pavelski hit.

We'll see what game 2 brings but imo the officiating needs to be a lot tighter on both teams or else this series could be at risk of getting out of hand.

 

[cliffclaven]

What a beautiful hit and it is pathetic he got a penalty for it

He didn’t. The roughing penalty was after domi jumped him

 

[63firebird]

Head was most definitely not initial point of contact.

If he targeted the head he would have a misconduct and a hearing for sure. It’s Hartman stick jammed inthere that caused damage. Notduma. He fell back. Not through head.

 

[GMR]

Dumbass is hiding behind a tough team.

The hit wasn't as bad as the result but there's little reason to laugh about it.

 

[Nsjohnson]

Try actually watching the video. The first thing to that happens on contact is that Pavelski's head snaps back violently, within a single frame. That's clearly where the injury occurred and only happens due to shoulder to head being the initial point of impact.

Man. You almost had me!

There are almost two high sticks between Dumba and Pavelski, Dumba didn't leave the ice nor even drive his shoulder in an elevated fashion. Good hit, he had committed to it and the puck left Pavs and it was a near-late hit. And a big one at that. The head injury obviously occurred when his head BOUNCED off the ice.

 

[cliffclaven]

Those weren't missed calls, the referee was looking right at them for at least one of the plays. What it was, was the referee allowing Dallas to extract their pound of flesh as retribution from one of Minny's star players within the context of the game. Kaprizov/Boldy became targets for that kind of play immediately after the Pavelski hit.

We'll see what game 2 brings but imo the officiating needs to be a lot tighter on both teams or else this series could be at risk of getting out of hand.

You mean like when the ref was looking right at seguin in OT when he got high sticked right in the face? Refs were terrible all game.

 

[MuckOG]

Dumbass is hiding behind a tough team.

Dumba has never not answered the call.....I wonder if Suter will answer when challenged by Reaves or Foligno tomorrow night?

 

[Nsjohnson]

Wow, is a quarter of a second after the puck departed considered "late" now? Nice hit with the shoulder.

According to some, including a certain Athletic writer.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

You mean like when the ref was looking right at seguin in OT when he got high sticked right in the face? Refs were terrible all game.

Yes, that too. The officiating was terrible and they let too much go on both sides.

 

[IceBoxHockey]

Dumbass is hiding behind a tough team.

The hit wasn't as bad as the result but there's little reason to laugh about it.

Dumba doesn’t hide, unfortunately. His career was forever changed because of that mentality.

 

[Nsjohnson]

I don't get how anyone can think this is late. He moved the puck and less than a second later he's on the ice.

Too many slow-motion armchair GM's around.

 

[Minnewildsota]

You mean like when the ref was looking right at seguin in OT when he got high sticked right in the face? Refs were terrible all game.

That was just the ref allowing the Wild to get their pound of flesh because of the cross checks... or something.

 

[Zrhutch]

Not late, but it’s an upward motion into the head with an intent to f*** the guy up. I’m not gonna argue the legality of it, that’s useless, all I’m gonna say is Pavelski’s 38 with now at least two by my count terrible head injuries. That very well could be a career ender, and that’s a shame. Hope Dumba gets fed Wednesday.

 

[GMR]

Dumba has never not answered the call.....I wonder if Suter will answer when challenged by Reaves or Foligno tomorrow night?

Suter is almost 40. I doubt he'll be fighting enforcers when he's never done it before.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Not late, but it’s an upward motion into the head with an intent to f*** the guy up. I’m not gonna argue the legality of it, that’s useless, all I’m gonna say is Pavelski’s 38 with now at least two by my count terrible head injuries. That very well could be a career ender, and that’s a shame. Hope Dumba gets fed Wednesday.

Me too. I'd hate for him to play on an empty stomach

 

[MuckOG]

Suter is almost 40. I doubt he'll be fighting enforcers when he's never done it before.

You're probably right, but I would love to see it.

 

[dirtydanglez]

the wild m.o. to the playoffs is to intentionally injure their opponents. that's how matt cooke got his paycheck. not surprised by the hit or dumbas reaction.

 

[57special]

It was a shoulder to shoulder hit, not in the numbers, not charging, not into the boards, not high stick, or crosscheck. It was late, but no later than many hits every game that go uncalled. They called nothing on the ice at first, but because of the result, assessed a major, a rule that was implemented, oddly enough, by another, much worse playoff incident with Pavelski where he was lying on the ice, unconscious, with blood pouring out, and the refs assessed a 5 minute major on the ice, which at that time they could not change. Turns out that Vegas wrongly accused, and it changed the game. The idiots in the ESPN booth seem to have forgotten and seem to think that they are calling basketball game;

-Hextall. "Headshot"(when it was anything but).

- Boucher, "shoulder to shoulder, but he was driving upwards". Huh?

- their rules "expert". "Should be a major!"

And on and on with a lynch mob mentality, rather than actually looking at the hit. You can't penalize for the aftermath of a hit. Pavelski was wobbly, yes...because he hit his head on the ice when he fell, not because Dumba hit him on the head.

IMO the hit was late, and should've been a two. I see hits that late many times per game go uncalled. If Pavelski had not fallen, Dumba would not even have been called. Toronto, after multiple looks at the hit, called it right. Deboer agreed.

What was uncalled during the game were two blatant crosschecks in the back by Suter on Kaprizov, the last of which brought him to his knees. There was nothing even close to fair about it, yet the refs chose to look the other way. I guess they, and the league, would rather watch a game without Kaprizov, one of the most exciting players in the league.

 

[Ruggs225]

hit was clean if a shade late. But damn did his head hit the ice. Unfortunate result.

Hopefully pavs is ok. I always liked him.

 

[Dr Pepper]

It was a shoulder to shoulder hit, not in the numbers, not charging, not into the boards, not high stick, or crosscheck. It was late, but no later than many hits every game that go uncalled. They called nothing on the ice at first, but because of the result, assessed a major, a rule that was implemented, oddly enough, by another, much worse playoff incident with Pavelski where he was lying on the ice, unconscious, with blood pouring out, and the refs assessed a 5 minute major on the ice, which at that time they could not change. Turns out that Vegas wrongly accused, and it changed the game. The idiots in the ESPN booth seem to have forgotten and seem to think that they are calling basketball game;

-Hextall. "Headshot"(when it was anything but).

- Boucher, "shoulder to shoulder, but he was driving upwards". Huh?

- their rules "expert". "Should be a major!"

And on and on with a lynch mob mentality, rather than actually looking at the hit. You can't penalize for the aftermath of a hit. Pavelski was wobbly, yes...because he hit his head on the ice when he fell, not because Dumba hit him on the head.

IMO the hit was late, and should've been a two. I see hits that late many times per game go uncalled. If Pavelski had not fallen, Dumba would not even have been called. Toronto, after multiple looks at the hit, called it right. Deboer agreed.

What was uncalled during the game were two blatant crosschecks in the back by Suter on Kaprizov, the last of which brought him to his knees. There was nothing even close to fair about it, yet the refs chose to look the other way. I guess they, and the league, would rather watch a game without Kaprizov, one of the most exciting players in the league.

I actually felt the ESPN crew was pro-Wild last night.....case in point, Subban slobbering all over Dumba during that second intermission and rambling on about "playoff hockey" and the way he used to play.

 

[PensandCaps]

It's a 2 min penalty. But should have gotten a 10 and thrown out for laughing.

 

[MuckOG]

It's a 2 min penalty. But should have gotten a 10 and thrown out for laughing.

I don't think he was laughing because of the hit, it was more about the chirping from Domi and others.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Me too. I'd hate for him to play on an empty stomach

You want a mulligan on this comeback?

 

[Minnewildsota]

You want a mulligan on this comeback?

No. I'm content with it. Thanks for asking though! Consent is important.