CBC Hot Stove: Duclair can be had for the right price

[liquiduck]

You buy low.

Its a gamble. But even if it doesnt pay off, its not like we can afford to deal vats for an acheiving guy in his prime with a 4 mil/year salary.

An ideal trade is to move him for a young forwars who has the ability to put goals in the net. And those options are not going to pop up alot.

Edit: and duclair isnt the only guy on that squad struggling.

And putting Vats on that team, he would probably be in the Norris trophy point range with the key icetime he would get.

Trading Vatanen for him certainly would not be buying low. In fact, right now that would be a pretty large overpay. That's an easy pass imo.

 

[Halla]

If we trade Vatanen for Duclair that is Coyotes buying low on Vatanen and us buying high for someone who doesn't come close to deserving it.

We can't afford to be making high risk gambles we are not that type of team. Sure we can afford to trade Vatanen for someone with same kind of salary that someone just needs to be a legit established top 6 forward.

True he isn't the only one but he is the worst of their young forwards who have already played in the NHL.

No don't see him playing that much and producing that much for the Coyotes and if he did we would look even stupider for trading him for Declair then we would if he is the same for them as with us.

vatanen isnt doing too hot either. and when he was duclairs age, he wasnt even in the NHL.

teams would be very interested if duclair was available, and the ducks likely would be one of them, regardless of your personal opinion of duclairs value

 

[liquiduck]

vatanen isnt doing too hot either. and when he was duclairs age, he wasnt even in the NHL.

teams would be very interested if duclair was available, and the ducks likely would be one of them, regardless of your personal opinion of duclairs value

I'd be interested, just not for Vatanen. At least not right now.

 

[Ducks in a row]

vatanen isnt doing too hot either. and when he was duclairs age, he wasnt even in the NHL.

teams would be very interested if duclair was available, and the ducks likely would be one of them, regardless of your personal opinion of duclairs value

Vatanen overall isn't doing as well as expected but he is still racking up some points more as a defenseman then Duclair as a forward. Vatanen a smaller side European defensiveman taking longer to get into the NHL that ain't a surprise nor should it be held against him in any way.

Sure we would be interested in him (just not at the crazy high price of Vatanen) a lot of teams would. Anyone who thinks Duclair value is Vatanen is out to lunch just as any Ducks fan who would pay that price.

 

[Balthazar]

Would look great on the Canes 1st line. Would consider sending out Haydn Fleury

Fair value and would make sense for both teams. I really like it.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

vatanen isnt doing too hot either. and when he was duclairs age, he wasnt even in the NHL.

teams would be very interested if duclair was available, and the ducks likely would be one of them, regardless of your personal opinion of duclairs value

Vatanen has 8 points in 18 games and is known as a slow starter, he's been playing more like himself recently and he will score a .5+ PPG pace like he normally does. RH dmen who can do that and play regularly in your PK rotation don't grow on trees

 

[jacobhockey13]

No one gets traded twice that young without some character questions. And character is why he dropped in the draft.

I don't know whether to laugh at this or what. I realize that this board isn't the appropriate forum to discuss racial biases, but this whole narrative is so ****ing stupid I don't know what to say.

Duclair dropped in the draft because Patrick Roy didn't pick him, and other teams were scared off because of that, not "character".

Yes, Duclair had two "incidents" but one in which the entire Quebec Remparts team was involved and in my opinion could be ascribed to Patrick Roy's idiocy (he decided to scratch the rookies when the team was struggling but you can read up on it and make your own judgement rather than posting speculative theories) and the other was just a sort of "intensity" scratch that wasn't a character issue but just trying to get Duclair's head in the right place after returning from the WJC (for comparative reference, you can search the London Knights forum history and see how fans were howling for Max Domi's head upon his return for his lack of intensity but nothing came of that).

None of the scratches related to Duclair's character. The Coyotes have Anthony Deangelo, who in contrast, really does or did have some issues (and dropped in the draft for it) but he's a good hockey player and you don't have people mentioning it now.

Sorry for the long response, but I don't like false narratives.

 

[quat]

Could definitely see Benning offering one of our defenceman

and a pick!

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Seems to me that moving Duclair would be a disaster for Zona. That said, Duclair for Vatanen would be pretty good value for him and if that were offered, and assuming Duclair is indeed on the block, I don't see how Arizona would turn that down.

 

[DesertDawg]

So why would the Coyotes be interested in Vatanen? Are they dissatisfied with DeAngelo?
At this time in his career, Teams will not be lining up to give the kind of return the Coyotes would like for Duclair. I would imagine teams would be more interested in a Hanzal & Vrbata deal

 

[LV*]

As a habs fan I'd look into it.

Yea too bad hes not the type of player Montreal wants.

 

[Glennsoe]

Rangers offers Girardi..

 

[bernmeister]

Anthony Duclair is awesome.

Dave Tippett is a useless piece of ****.

The latter got a promotion and an extension for failing constantly and being a useless piece of garbage.

The former is going to be traded just for being awesome and not being a useless piece of **** like the latter.

tell us how you really feel!

There is no big 3. Vatanen is not in Lindholm or Fowlers range.

Sign me up for trading Vatanen for a cheap forward with high potential.

Ducks would be better off going for the established, still young Zucarello 3 yrs better contract than Vats

Zuc + 3rd
for
Vats + 2nd

clarification
relates to thread subject to indicate ducks have better options on Vats and don't do THAT trade for Duke

 

[Sens Vader]

Maybe package Duclair and Stone together? I donno..

Cody Ceci could be part of a deal from a sens pov. Still pretty shocking to hear he is available though

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Can someone give me a refresher on expansion draft rules? Does Duclair's 18 game season count towards the 2 pro season limit? In short, will he be exempt from the expansion draft?

 

[migi]

Pokka/Gustafsson, DeBrincat & 2nd for Duclair.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

He fell to the 3rd round in the draft cause there were red flags, dealt to the Yotes after a decent start with the Rangers and now on the block after a great Rookie year and coming out ice cold. Yeah it might be the coach but something doesn't add up, in a cap world these are the guys you build around.

 

[varano]

He fell to the 3rd round in the draft cause there were red flags, dealt to the Yotes after a decent start with the Rangers and now on the block after a great Rookie year and coming out ice cold. Yeah it might be the coach but something doesn't add up, in a cap world these are the guys you build around.

Its the same reason why they're sitting Strome in the press box most of the nights.

Management wants to purge most of the items left behind by Don Maloney

 

[MinJaBen]

Fair value and would make sense for both teams. I really like it.

Yeah, as a Canes fan that seems like a fair trade. I'd do it as we already have plenty LHD and could use more top 6 talent up front.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Canucks should be exhausting every possible option to acquire Duclair if he is really available. I would expect a good sized overpayment from Benning. Canuck would probably give up early picks even though they are openly tanking!

 

[PokerPig]

Canucks should be exhausting every possible option to acquire Duclair if he is really available. I would expect a good sized overpayment from Benning. Canuck would probably give up early picks even though they are openly tanking!

Indeed..

Erik Gudbranson, Brock Boeser, 2017 1st
For
Michael Stone, Anthony Duclair, Dylan Strome

Bridge that ol' age gap some more Benning!

 

[TheNumber4]

I thought Duclair and Domi had sublime chemistry together. They've shown it so many times before. I'm surprised to hear he's having a bad year, but sophomore slumps ARE a thing. And Arizona probably would be better not dealing him. The return won't be there anyways.

 

[clunk]

Barrie for Duclair. beat that offer if you can.

That's bad value for Colorado. Has Barrie really fallen off that much?

 

[rt]

Anthony Duclair does not have character issues.

Arizona Coyotes do have major coaching issues.

Problem is not with Duclair, it's on his idiot coach.

 

[clunk]

Anthony Duclair does not have character issues.

Arizona Coyotes do have major coaching issues.

Problem is not with Duclair, it's on his idiot coach.

Willie for Tippett?