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Oh, please. Petry's good, but the only statistical category he has over Jones is "number of games played in a Habs sweater".
Dreger: Duchene Mega-thread: Habs, NSH inquired about Duchene. Asking price is ridiculous.
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Oh, please. Petry's good, but the only statistical category he has over Jones is "number of games played in a Habs sweater".
I'm talking about a team picking up duchene via trade. Let's say the the Hypothetical and say, the Hawks trade Hartman, Schmaltz and forsling in offseason.
That's three guys who are already playing roles for the Hawks including even more significant roles next year. They then would probably looking to pick up a 3rd line and 2nd or 3rd pair dman via fa.
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Legit non facetious question for Canadiens fans.
How much rope does Bergevin have? Are there any rumblings or rumours that if he fails to make a deep run into the playoffs soon that he could be replaced?
How much rope does Bergevin have? Are there any rumblings or rumours that if he fails to make a deep run into the playoffs soon that he could be replaced?
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Bergevin is actually a pretty good gm
Byron for free, Danault + 2nd rounder for Weise and Fleishman, Radulov for free, Weber for Subban, etc. are all moves that he did recently which is helping the habs a lot this year
That one is a real bad one... Most people will see more it clearly at Year 3.
Also, I feel that Nesterov will be a good one
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There's no guaretee that a guy that relies on as much energy as Subban does ages as well as a guy like Weber anyways so Nashville hasn't one the trade in the future either.
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When Dreger said the 'asking price is ridiculous' he didn't mean it that way.
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Preds fan here saying I hate Subban and would much rather have kept Weber. Poile got robbed there
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To be fair, Shipachev is currently putting up a KHL season with the 3rd highest PPG since its inception. Behind only Malkin and Mozyakin during the lockout year when they were on the same team, and a far better season than Panarin had before he came over, look how he's doing. Even Radulov hasn't put up the numbers Shipachev is putting up.
It isn't laughable in the slightest to say that he could be a better player than Duchene, if anything they're probably around even.
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DUCHENE
BEAUCHEMIN (full retain)
TOTAL = $8.25
for
RIBEIRO
JARNKROK
BITETTO
1st Round Pick
Dante Fabbro
Kamenev / Dougherty
TOTAL = $6.13
I feel like this is what it would take to get Sakic to say yes. (IF he is okay with taking a futures package). He might push hard to get Saros instead of Fabbro, but IMO Poile shouldn't give Saros away, even for Duchene.
Another part of me thinks that there's no deal without Saros or Ekholm. I suppose it depends on how patient Sakic is willing to be, and what other teams' offers look like. Sergachev or Hjalmarsson are more appealing.
BEAUCHEMIN (full retain)
TOTAL = $8.25
for
RIBEIRO
JARNKROK
BITETTO
1st Round Pick
Dante Fabbro
Kamenev / Dougherty
TOTAL = $6.13
I feel like this is what it would take to get Sakic to say yes. (IF he is okay with taking a futures package). He might push hard to get Saros instead of Fabbro, but IMO Poile shouldn't give Saros away, even for Duchene.
Another part of me thinks that there's no deal without Saros or Ekholm. I suppose it depends on how patient Sakic is willing to be, and what other teams' offers look like. Sergachev or Hjalmarsson are more appealing.
Now is the right time for Nashville to try to get Duchene. Ekholm + + would be a great scenario
considering the expansion draft where Nashville would be able to protect 7-3 instead of 4-4.
Since the last summer this is a big question mark for me - What would Nashville do - protect their 4 D and give up on players like Wilson Jarnkrok and Smith or try to trade one of Ellis or Ekholm.
So with the situation in Colorado this is the perfect oportunity for Nashville to get top center(top center available in this league is like a leap year) protect their core group and try to win the cup for the next few years.
considering the expansion draft where Nashville would be able to protect 7-3 instead of 4-4.
Since the last summer this is a big question mark for me - What would Nashville do - protect their 4 D and give up on players like Wilson Jarnkrok and Smith or try to trade one of Ellis or Ekholm.
So with the situation in Colorado this is the perfect oportunity for Nashville to get top center(top center available in this league is like a leap year) protect their core group and try to win the cup for the next few years.
Looks like McCarron is pretty much done in Montreal, organisation doesn't look very high on him and keep sending him down. My bet is Bergevin is offering Juulsen + McCarron + 1st and a cap dump for Duchene but Sakic wants Sergachev instead of Juulsen.
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This doesn't really work considering they came out before the draft, when everyone was speculating that Jones would go 1st overall, and said they would be taking MacKinnon. In reality, what happened leading up to that draft is the management was saying one things, and people were ignoring it. Now, that example works for those who are ignoring, for instance, the asking price of Duchene, but it doesn't work for those who are saying he will be traded. At present, all indications are that Duchene is at least being shopped. Until Sakic comes out and says, "we aren't trading Duchene," you can't really compare it to the fervor over that draft.
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Duchene is a way better player but was not drafted #1 overall and is forced to play on a way worse team right now.
But yeah. Aside from that they really could be twins...
I'm an Avs fan but if I was a Habs fan, I'd pony up Sergachev. Duchene isn't guaranteed to be the piece that puts them over the top but I'd risk it. Plus he'll be there 2 more years to try to bring home the cup. It's been almost 25 years since the Habs won the cup. If they let this window close, it might be 25 more. There's no guarantee Rads will be back, this is prime time for Weber and Price. Markov will be done shortly. I guess Habs fans need to ask themselves if they're legit contenders as is or with a lesser piece than Duchene. I'd risk losing a potential top 2 dman for a couple shots at the cup.
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