LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[SlafySZN]

Suzuki and Caufield proved themselves pretty well 2 years ago against the Jets in the playoffs IIRC

I honestly can’t remember if Dubois was playing in that series

 

[Buffdog]

Put Myers in a mascot costume. Doesn't matter - he's only got 1 year left. Then you try to dump him at the TDL for value. Its not like you need the capspace.

You do this to get the 11th OV in a stacked draft.

That's not how it works. You don't add 5M+ to a blue line that's already full and blocking young prospects

Try asking yourself "does the other team really want or need what I'm offering" before you make a proposal. There will be much less vitriole spewn your way if you do

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I honestly can’t remember if Dubois was playing in that series

It was a sweep though wasn't it?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

That's not how it works. You don't add 5M+ to a blue line that's already full and blocking young prospects

Try asking yourself "does the other team really want or need what I'm offering" before you make a proposal. There will be much less vitriole spewn your way if you do

Ask yourself this, what is the best asset in the deal? If the answer is the 11th OA, then you do what it takes to accommodate it. 1 year of Myers is not egregious.

Do you really prefer Col 1st + Newhook over that deal? Or Dvorak + Kidney + 2nd? lol

 

[Canadienna]

"The Dubois camp will submit a list of teams that he would have interest in signing with long-term, maybe five or six teams."

Honestly just that alone probably takes the Habs out of it. They were never going to get into a bidding war for the player. They likely offered a late first, a roster player and a B prospect.

If he's doing a sign and trade with one of a handful of teams, the price just went way up.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

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PLD was invisible in that series if i recall. That was the sweepiest sweep.

Honestly just that alone probably takes the Habs out of it. They were never going to get into a bidding war for the player. They likely offered a late first a roster player and a B prospect.

If he's doing a sign and trade with one of a handful of teams, the price just went way up.

I hope its not the Habs in a side/trade deal. Someone is gonna overpay for PLD.

 

[Captain97]

If salary starts with a 9 I wouldn't be interested. He's a good player but he's a 60-70 point C. That's a great player but Tkachuk got 9.5 and was literally a 100 point forward.

 

[Lockin17]

If Dubois is traded to Montreal, what’s the contract looking like?

Suzuki's contract no more.

 

[Michoulicious]

So teams are going to line up spending assets for the "privilege" of overpaying Dubois (reportedly asking for around 9 millions per) for 8 years.

Yeah, no.

 

[Heldig]

literally no one has thought that but keep being the victim

Do we need to name the Habs fans that have said exactly that? I am not going to rehash thru the 100's of pages but absolutely SOME Habs fans have been claiming they will get Dubois for far less than the price of a good rental.

 

[tbcwpg]

Getting spicy in here

 

[JetsFan815]

Serious question - what's with this bloke? Two teams he has asked to be moved from. That can't be good for any player for reputation.

3... He supposedly demanded a trade out of Cape Breton in the QMJHL as well

 

[Captain97]

Serious question - what's with this bloke? Two teams he has asked to be moved from. That can't be good for any player for reputation.

If the new report is true that he has 5-6 teams he's willing to go to I have no idea.

Originally what was in the media/leaked was he wants to be a Hab and his agent even said that on I think TVA (french sportsnet). So he was forcing a trade home.

If it's actually I just don't want to be in Winnipeg or Columbus it's far stranger.

What a read.

Happy PLD is interested in more than Montreal. Hopefully it's all done by the draft.

Dude I want PLD but I also just want this saga over at this point.

 

[Frederixx]

Journalists compare the possible return to last year's trades. But people don't take into account that he controls his own destiny and no one will pay for a rental player when they know his head and heart are somewhere else.

So IF it's not Montreal, he will most likely be traded with an extension.

 

[gojetsgo]

Journalists compare the possible return to last year's trades. But people don't take into account that he controls his own destiny and no one will pay for a rental player when they know his head and heart are somewhere else.

So IF it's not Montreal, he will most likely be traded with an extension.

and if it's to the 5-6 teams he's reportedly interested in signing long term with he will also be traded with an extension

 

[Captain97]

Do we need to name the Habs fans that have said exactly that? I am not going to rehash thru the 100's of pages but absolutely SOME Habs fans have been claiming they will get Dubois for far less than the price of a good rental.

No but you can word the original post in a way that doesn't make it sound like the entire fan base is saying that when it's been like 4 posters saying it a bunch.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I want Dubs to be traded so all this drama can end until 2-3 years passes and Dubs wants out of whatever team he is traded to next lol.

 

[Captain97]

and if it's to the 5-6 teams he's reportedly interested in signing long term with he will also be traded with an extension

Intersting thought. In the past it was stayed he wanted to be a Hab. But now it's 5-6.

It's also been reporting the Habs and Jets talked back when the season ended. I wonder if the Habs told PLD/Winnipeg what contract they'd be willing to offer (Suzuki's contract) and he wants to get paid now he's listening to other offers.

 

[John Mandalorian]

What would likely be his list of 5 teams?

Would Boston be on it as a rival to his childhood team? Or is Boston close enough to his favorite watering holes in Montreal?

What’s his likely list of teams besides Montreal?

 

[Buffdog]

Ask yourself this, what is the best asset in the deal? If the answer is the 11th OA, then you do what it takes to accommodate it. 1 year of Myers is not egregious.

Do you really prefer Col 1st + Newhook over that deal? Or Dvorak + Kidney + 2nd? lol

Why am I limited to those three deals? But you might as well not even have included the Habs offer.

I'd take the Col one to be honest. Get a 1st rounder and a prospect (though not a super one) at a position of need

As a Jets fan, if you're not offering Dach under these circumstances, you might as well leave the thread and head to church to start praying that he keeps progressing into the player PLD already is

Intersting thought. In the past it was stayed he wanted to be a Hab. But now it's 5-6.

It's also been reporting the Habs and Jets talked back when the season ended. I wonder if the Habs told PLD/Winnipeg what contract they'd be willing to offer (Suzuki's contract) and he wants to get paid now he's listening to other offers.

I think it's possible that chevy got an offer from MTL and told them that he'd talk to Brisson, get the list of teams that PLD would be willing to sign with, player and chevy can both negotiate with each one, and they'd circle back near the draft.

 

[Whileee]

The hits keep coming...

Now Arpon is reporting that Hughes clarified that Suzuki's salary isn't necessarily a ceiling for a player who is close to UFA.

Sounds like he'd be open to paying Dubois more than Suzuki...

 

[Hunter368]

A sign and trade will get you the most value.
A sign and trade will get you pretty good value
No sigh and trade will get you half of what he's worth.

Thats the plan, according to insider, sign and trade. Which is a lot better then what we all thought 24 hours ago

 

[Whileee]

Thats the plan, according to insider, sign and trade. Which is a lot better then what we all thought 24 hours ago

There is a way that Hughes could clear away any trade competition... He could offer to pay Dubois a very rich contract that few, if any other teams would be willing to pay. If they cleared out competition, they might give up less in trade, but pay a high salary price.

Jets need to have at least a couple of teams willing to pay a big contract if they want to leverage a strong trade return.

 

[EveryDay]

Thats the plan, according to insider, sign and trade. Which is a lot better then what we all thought 24 hours ago

Let's see if Arpon Basu is right for once

 

[Hunter368]

Honestly just that alone probably takes the Habs out of it. They were never going to get into a bidding war for the player. They likely offered a late first, a roster player and a B prospect.

If he's doing a sign and trade with one of a handful of teams, the price just went way up.

Agreed

Plus Habs GM just clarified saying Suzuki & CC were paid what they were bc they ELC and younger RFA, but said a UFA or a guy with more UFA years could be paid more by him. Paraphrasing.

I've said a million times for months now PLD will get 8-9 million from some team, people thinking less then 8 long term were dreaming.

PLD willingness to extend with 5-6 teams long term just raised the cost to get him a fair bit, still not going to be a king's ransom IMO but the cost just went up and will cost more to get him now then it did 24 hours ago