Confirmed with Link: Draisaitl re-signs 8y 8.5M AAV

[MessierII]

Hall has produced without Draisaitl for years so no Draisaitl didnt make him look good.

2 of the last 3 years Hall has struggled to be more than a 50-60 point player the only season he comfortably hit the mid 60's was the season he played with Draisaitl.

 

[Fourier]

Hall's a good player but it's not like he's some super elite player. Good players should get to play with other good players, it's not like Hall turned RNH into a superstar or did anything big for anyone in NJ.

Leon is the real deal, I'm not really worried about his game, I just wish that cap roof was about $5 million higher right now. It'll get there though.

Hall and McDavid have one thing in common. They both want the puck a lot so if you are going to play with them successfully you need to be able to defer. The difference though is what happens after they get it. Hall is an under rated passer but is no where near elite. McDavid is absolutely elite. And there is no comparison between the two with respect to their hockey IQ. McDavid is also far more dangerous so he creates more space for his linemates.

It's somewhat ironic that when Nuge played with Hall, the team's best goal scorer, his assist totals dropped and some years by a lot. I doubt that this would be the case playing with McDavid. The two are just so different in terms of how they use their teammates.

Leon does not need the puck all the time to succeed. Because of this and because he is so skilled he can be a great complementary play on a line with someone like Hall or McDavid. People think I am insulting him here but that could not be further from the truth. Kurri was one of the best complementary players of all time. That does not mean he was not incredibly skilled in his own right.

 

[redgrant]

Cant believe people still discussing Hall when 31 out of 31 GMs would take Dra at 8.5m a year over Hall at 6m a year any day of the week.

 

[CapnZin]

Drai is very good, but I wouldn't take him at 8.5mil. I think it's way too high.

Both he and McDavid take up 28% of the cap... and that's between 2 players. They're going to need some big performances from ELC players if they want the cup. They most definitely have the talent to win, but a couple years down the road when they have big people to resign like Nurse, Klefbom, Talbot, and others, they won't have the cap.

 

[booyakasha]

Hall has produced without Draisaitl for years so no Draisaitl didnt make him look good.

Draisaitl needs to show he can produce without Hall or McDavid, and for 8.5 million, he needs to centre the 2nd line and drive it.

 

[GMofOilers]

Draisaitl needs to show he can produce without Hall or McDavid, and for 8.5 million, he needs to centre the 2nd line and drive it.

I just dont understand this way of thinking. McDavid and Drai were the best scoring duo in the league last year. That goes a longer way then Drai having to drive his own line. Now sure in a perfect world Drai is a 2nd line center behind McDavid sure, but its not end all be all if the 2 are beasts together.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I just dont understand this way of thinking. McDavid and Drai were the best scoring duo in the league last year. That goes a longer way then Drai having to drive his own line. Now sure in a perfect world Drai is a 2nd line center behind McDavid sure, but its not end all be all if the 2 are beasts together.

I agree. I would expect Draisaitl to get time on McDavid's wing and at 2C next year.

 

[booyakasha]

I just dont understand this way of thinking. McDavid and Drai were the best scoring duo in the league last year. That goes a longer way then Drai having to drive his own line. Now sure in a perfect world Drai is a 2nd line center behind McDavid sure, but its not end all be all if the 2 are beasts together.

for 8.5 million?...I want more than a winger for a superstar.
What is Maroon going to get then?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It bothers me to think that Drai (or Chia) might've priced him higher than 8.5 million. He needs a really big year this season.

 

[MoontoScott]

for 8.5 million?...I want more than a winger or a superstar.
What is Maroon going to get then?

Good question. I don't want to pick on RNH but really unless they move that contract (unlikely) then I think it will be difficult to sign Maroon and if Strome has a really good year then that will also be a difficult situation even though Strome would be a RFA. Then the following year you have that same discussion regarding Talbot. I think the Carey Price deal has put a lot of inflationary pressure on that situation as well.

 

[MoontoScott]

Cant believe people still discussing Hall when 31 out of 31 GMs would take Dra at 8.5m a year over Hall at 6m a year any day of the week.

Very true, people just can't move on and let it go. I guess going with the status quo for a team that has missed the playoffs for a decade was a better option.

 

[Soundwave]

Good question. I don't want to pick on RNH but really unless they move that contract (unlikely) then I think it will be difficult to sign Maroon and if Strome has a really good year then that will also be a difficult situation even though Strome would be a RFA. Then the following year you have that same discussion regarding Talbot. I think the Carey Price deal has put a lot of inflationary pressure on that situation as well.

RNH is a pretty easy contract to move, plenty of teams would love to have a young center with his upside still.

Montreal, Vegas, Arizona, the Islanders ... several other teams would jump all over that if offered.

Maybe the Oilers can't afford him long term, but for many other teams 6 mill against a cap that will be 77-78 million is no big deal.

 

[MoontoScott]

RNH is a pretty easy contract to move, plenty of teams would love to have a young center with his upside still.

Montreal, Vegas, the Islanders ... several other teams would jump all over that if offered.

Maybe the Oilers can't afford him long term, but for many other teams 6 mill against a cap that will be 77-78 million is no big deal.

Well, I see your point, the way things are going 6M may not be that much anymore.

However, there is still 24M left on that contract and I wonder if he is really a top six player? Having said that I hope he lights it up this year and has a 70 point season.

 

[Soundwave]

Well, I see your point, the way things are going 6M may not be that much anymore.

However, there is still 24M left on that contract and I wonder if he is really a top six player? Having said that I hope he lights it up this year and has a 70 point season.

A 70 point player is an elite top line player in this league. If he scores 70 points, the Oilers keep him obviously.

RNH would play in the top six of several teams in the league, Montreal, Arizona, Vegas, NYI, Colorado, I think without a doubt.

 

[MoontoScott]

A 70 point player is an elite top line player in this league. If he scores 70 points, the Oilers keep him obviously.

RNH would play in the top six of several teams in the league, Montreal, Arizona, Vegas, NYI, Colorado, I think without a doubt.[/QUOTE

Well, I was exaggerating a little bit on the 70 points, that's unlikely but I always want people to do well. We shall see.

But if you did keep him then where do you find the money to resign Maroon?

 

[Soundwave]

A 70 point player is an elite top line player in this league. If he scores 70 points, the Oilers keep him obviously.

RNH would play in the top six of several teams in the league, Montreal, Arizona, Vegas, NYI, Colorado, I think without a doubt.[/QUOTE

Well, I was exaggerating a little bit on the 70 points, that's unlikely but I always want people to do well. We shall see.

But if you did keep him then where do you find the money to resign Maroon?

That will be one of the things the Oilers have to decide. They can maybe keep Maroon + Strome instead of RNH. They have to decide which one suits them best.

 

[MoontoScott]

That will be one of the things the Oilers have to decide. They can maybe keep Maroon + Strome instead of RNH. They have to decide which one suits them best.

I think you have to go with Maroon + Strome because if Drai moves back to center then the only proven top 6 winger (apart from Maroon & Strome) is Lucic and he is not a high skill 30 goal guy. I guess Puls is a possibility but again, remains to be seen.

 

[KCC]

I just dont understand this way of thinking. McDavid and Drai were the best scoring duo in the league last year. That goes a longer way then Drai having to drive his own line. Now sure in a perfect world Drai is a 2nd line center behind McDavid sure, but its not end all be all if the 2 are beasts together.

Prob start on his own line, but will play mcDavids wing at times. Like down late etc. Tmac will shuffle when he has to.

 

[Panda Bear]

It's annoying when people whine about Draisaitl being unproven or question his ability to carry a line right after these playoffs.

He started off with the flu, got his own line much of the time, and put up 16 points in 13 games--you know, to lead the team.

He was better than McDavid (who I bet had a broken rib or two).

Draisaitl earned this deal. He's worth it.

Even in some world where he's overpaid by 500k, it's ridiculous to keep moaning about it when 500k takes up so little bloody room on the cap.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It's annoying when people whine about Draisaitl being unproven or question his ability to carry a line right after these playoffs.

He started off with the flu, got his own line much of the time, and put up 16 points in 13 games--you know, to lead the team.

He was better than McDavid (who I bet had a broken rib or two).

Draisaitl earned this deal. He's worth it.

Even in some world where he's overpaid by 500k, it's ridiculous to keep moaning about it when 500k takes up so little bloody room on the cap.

One playoffs does not a career make or Pisani's name would be in the rafters.

 

[Soundwave]

One playoffs does not a career make or Pisani's name would be in the rafters.

Not really a fair thing to say IMO, Pisani probably would've been a very productive member of the Oilers for several more years, his career was up-ended by a colitis issue.

 

[GMofOilers]

One playoffs does not a career make or Pisani's name would be in the rafters.

If you cant see the difference in talent between Drai and Pisani then I guess thats where we will continue to disagree.

That comparision is like gold to silver.

 

[GMofOilers]

for 8.5 million?...I want more than a winger for a superstar.
What is Maroon going to get then?

Maroon will get a slight raise on his current contract if he has another good season.

9 M is the new contract rate for top 10 point getters in this league. Just the way it is. Why you so concerned about the wing. Drai is a natural center, and one hell of a center right now.

Everyone need to calm down about the money. So over rated.

 

[Soundwave]

I get the feeling Maroon will sign like a 4.5 per x 5-6 year deal with St. Louis next summer.

 

[MoontoScott]

Maroon will get a slight raise on his current contract if he has another good season.

9 M is the new contract rate for top 10 point getters in this league. Just the way it is. Why you so concerned about the wing. Drai is a natural center, and one hell of a center right now.

Everyone need to calm down about the money. So over rated.

What are you calling a slight raise?