Confirmed with Link: Draisaitl re-signs 8y 8.5M AAV

[Mr Positive]

Drai was moved to the McDavid line in January not because of his own numbers but because of McDavid's numbers.

McDavid in December: 1-5-6 in 14 games at even strength, with 0 even strength points at home.

Drai's 'slump' was in early November playing with a revolving door of wingers like Pouliot, PJ, Caggiula (when he came back) with little chance to develop chemistry.

That's why his numbers without McD last year are a bit misleading. Quality & consistency of linemates matters.

this is one factor that may mean that the team picks Maroon over RNH. Chemistry with McDavid is not guaranteed, and McDavid's own numbers are vulnerable in this just as much as it is with his linemates. Something that seems like it should work, like Hall or Lucic, doesn't necessarily do well, and yet someone like Maroon can come in and it just works.

 

[SK13]

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That's why his numbers without McD last year are a bit misleading. Quality & consistency of linemates matters.

There was no "slump" though. The only time Draisaitl ever produced at that level in his career was with Connor McDavid. It's not as though the "poor quality of linemates" sunk Draisaitl to a lower level than we had seen.

 

[oilinger]

There was no "slump" though. The only time Draisaitl ever produced at that level in his career was with Connor McDavid. It's not as though the "poor quality of linemates" sunk Draisaitl to a lower level than we had seen.

Drai had 2 pts in the first 7 games in November. That was sub-par for him.

The poster was asking if that was why he was placed with McDavid. It was not.

Drai rebounded and had more points than McD in December, with a mixed bag of linemates. His wingers weren't all bad, but they weren't kept together long enough to gell.

 

[La Bamba]

Remember when Draisaitl posted 30 pts in the first 25 games of the 15/16 season without Connor McDavid in the lineup?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

 

[Asiaoil]

What I like about Drai is that the coach challenged him to be better than McDavid on any given night. He accepted the challenge, and in the playoffs, actually met and exceeded McDavid's level. Drai is driven and confident enough to hang with McDavid and that is a big deal. We are very lucky to have these two guys.

 

[KCC]

Remember when Draisaitl posted 30 pts in the first 25 games of the 15/16 season without Connor McDavid in the lineup?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

Hey, I forgot also.

 

[Jumptheshark]

man I am mean

why do I like this contract?

So many other fan bases hate it--mostly because in some cases(leafs) this could frack them up big time

 

[SK13]

Remember when Draisaitl posted 30 pts in the first 25 games of the 15/16 season without Connor McDavid in the lineup?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

Hey, remember when his veteran, two-time top-10 NHL scorer linemate had 31 points in the same stretch?

Remember how his offense was still high-end when separated, and Draisaitl's 5v5 offense almost became non-existent (granted, in not a large number of minutes).

 

[McDNicks17]

If only hockeyanalysis/puckalytics.com wasn't dead. I'd be curious to see who Drai was playing with and what kind of zone starts he was getting away from McDavid.

If McLellan continued to match Klef/Lars with McDavid and Drai got Reggie/Russell, there's a pretty good reason right there on why his offense was down.

 

[McShogun99]

Remember when Draisaitl posted 30 pts in the first 25 games of the 15/16 season without Connor McDavid in the lineup?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

But that was because of Hall....

 

[Game 8]

What I like about Drai is that the coach challenged him to be better than McDavid on any given night. He accepted the challenge, and in the playoffs, actually met and exceeded McDavid's level. Drai is driven and confident enough to hang with McDavid and that is a big deal. We are very lucky to have these two guys.

Agreed!

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hey, remember when his veteran, two-time top-10 NHL scorer linemate had 31 points in the same stretch?

Remember how his offense was still high-end when separated, and Draisaitl's 5v5 offense almost became non-existent (granted, in not a large number of minutes).

Yet Draisaitl likely outscores Hall again this season even if he centers his own line. I'm sorry but when you have 1 less point than the guy "carrying" you in the same stretch that doesn't sound like he's being carried to me. That sounds like to me that they were pretty damn close to equals during that stretch and that is what my eyes told me as well.

 

[redgrant]

Hey, remember when his veteran, two-time top-10 NHL scorer linemate had 31 points in the same stretch?

Remember how his offense was still high-end when separated, and Draisaitl's 5v5 offense almost became non-existent (granted, in not a large number of minutes).

Taylor Hall was beyond worthless has last 30 games as an Oiler. Like Klefbom famously said he never brought his best against tougher competition.

Meanwhile Drai dominated Anahiem in the playoffs.

 

[JarvisFunk]

But that was because of Hall....

Not a chance, if you polled 31 NHL GM's who the better player is, 31 of them will tell you it's Draisaitl.

 

[Game 8]

Taylor Hall was beyond worthless has last 30 games as an Oiler. Like Klefbom famously said he never brought his best against tougher competition.

Meanwhile Drai dominated Anahiem in the playoffs.

We are just about out of Scotties little softie players, happy times!

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

Hey, remember when his veteran, two-time top-10 NHL scorer linemate had 31 points in the same stretch?

Remember how his offense was still high-end when separated, and Draisaitl's 5v5 offense almost became non-existent (granted, in not a large number of minutes).

So if Hall had 31 points in those 25 games, that means that he got 34 points in the other 57 games. Doesn't sound like "high-end offense" to me.

I suppose you have some fancy chart that will to show just how awful Draisaitl is when playing with scrubs like Pouliot, Purcell, Yakupov, Cagguila ect as opposed to Hall and McDavid, but you could say that about almost every player in the league. They play better with good players. Thats nothing to hold against him.

 

[Babooch]

Outsider here. Can't see much wrong with the signing. I'm sure your GM wanted to sign Draisaitle prior to McDavid to try to save some cash but those agents aren't stupid.

 

[MessierII]

But that was because of Hall....

Was it or was Hall only that good because of Draisaitl? Because Hall this year without Draisaitl didn't accomplish much.

 

[Draiskull]

Was it or was Hall only that good because of Draisaitl? Because Hall this year without Draisaitl didn't accomplish much.

Hall has produced without Draisaitl for years so no Draisaitl didnt make him look good.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

Hall has produced without Draisaitl for years so no Draisaitl didnt make him look good.

Could it be that they made each other look good?

Just because players have chemistry and do well does not mean that its always 1 guy pulling all the weight.

Drai has proved he can produce with McDavid and Hall. Both players are hard to develop chemistry with but Drai found away. I chalk that up to him being very intelligent and thinking the game at a very high level.

 

[Panda Bear]

Its hard for great players to have great chemistry with average players because the other team doesn't have to bother with the average players. The other team just works to shut down the great player.

When you have two great players, though, like Drai and McDavid or Hall? Well, the other team has to worry about two players instead of one, which makes it easier for both of them to play.

 

[SK13]

Drai has proved he can produce with McDavid and Hall. Both players are hard to develop chemistry with but Drai found away. I chalk that up to him being very intelligent and thinking the game at a very high level.

This is simply not true.

The only player McDavid ever struggled to find chemistry with was Hall himself. Hall really hit a wall with Nuge and McDavid, but for the most part was productive regardless of his linemates as long as they would deffer to him.

Even though you might point out that Jordan Eberle was moved from that line for failing to score goals, his numbers with McDavid were still much better than without and McDavid was never significantly harmed by ANY linemate. The year prior McDavid killed it with Eberle and Pouliot, for example.

So if Hall had 31 points in those 25 games, that means that he got 34 points in the other 57 games. Doesn't sound like "high-end offense" to me.

I suppose you have some fancy chart that will to show just how awful Draisaitl is when playing with scrubs like Pouliot, Purcell, Yakupov, Cagguila ect as opposed to Hall and McDavid, but you could say that about almost every player in the league. They play better with good players. Thats nothing to hold against him.

I don't need to.

Hall was a top-10 NHL scorer twice before McDavid touched the NHL. He was and remains one of the games elite LWers. Draisaitl is the player on that line that had something to prove. And until he's not playing with a dude who is clearly better than he is, I have a hard time seeing him as a player who would produce to this level on his own merit.

I view this contract the exact way I viewed Jake Voracek's contract: Too much to commit/risk on a player who has been complimentary for his all of his best periods.

He could very well be legit and this will be a non-issue. You just can't know until he's put into the position to show that.

 

[McTrashBoat]

This is simply not true.

The only player McDavid ever struggled to find chemistry with was Hall himself. .

Hall, Lucic, Puljujarvi, Eberle

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

This is simply not true.

The only player McDavid ever struggled to find chemistry with was Hall himself. Hall really hit a wall with Nuge and McDavid, but for the most part was productive regardless of his linemates as long as they would deffer to him.

Even though you might point out that Jordan Eberle was moved from that line for failing to score goals, his numbers with McDavid were still much better than without and McDavid was never significantly harmed by ANY linemate. The year prior McDavid killed it with Eberle and Pouliot, for example.

Hall played his best hockey in the last 3 years with a 19 year old Draisaitl and McDavid played his best hockey of his young career with Draisaitl as well. Those guys had amazing chemistry. Anyone who watched could see that Drai wasn't just a passenger with either of them. He was making plays both seasons.

Hall was a top-10 NHL scorer twice before McDavid touched the NHL. He was and remains one of the games elite LWers. Draisaitl is the player on that line that had something to prove. And until he's not playing with a dude who is clearly better than he is, I have a hard time seeing him as a player who would produce to this level on his own merit.

The guy has scored a boatload of points his entire life. Just because he was blessed by being the 2nd best player on a team that has the worlds best player doesn't make him less of a player. His stats likely are inflated a bit by being with McDavid. Doesn't mean that he is still not a hell of a player.

I do believe the contract was a bit too much but I am just happy it was for 8 years. He should be here for his entire prime. Even if he is a 70+ point complimentary player, for the next 8 years he will be worth it in the long run.

 

[Soundwave]

Hall's a good player but it's not like he's some super elite player. Good players should get to play with other good players, it's not like Hall turned RNH into a superstar or did anything big for anyone in NJ.

Leon is the real deal, I'm not really worried about his game, I just wish that cap roof was about $5 million higher right now. It'll get there though.