Value of: Draisaitl New Contract

[GrumpyKoala]

7x14m somewhere else. sorry Oilers but I just dont see him sticking around in cold ass Edmonton

The dude is from koln Germany. He's used to cold ass weather.

For people used to cold ass weather, it might surprised you but a lot of us dread heat more than cold.

While I can "enjoy" vacation, you gotta pay me a lot more to move south than stay north.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Leon's current contract ends at the end of the 24-25 season. He is currently making $8M per year, with a cap hit of $8.5M. If hypothetically the Oilers were to renegotiate his contract at the end of this 23-24 season, what sort of deal do you think Leon would be able to negotiate?

I think he’s as good as gone unless Edmonton absolutely wrecks their own cap management (more than they already had) and offers him $15M+

Why would you want to stay with a team who has multiple brutal contracts just to be in the shadow of the best player in the world who may or may not even stay on his own?

I think he signs somewhere else (Detroit please) for $12-13M

 

[nbwingsfan]

Actual value, 9.5M

McDavid inflation effect, 12-12.5M

Whatever team pays him that will regret it. Great player but massively over rated by far too many people, he's a star but not top 5 like so many suggest.

This guy thinks a guy who’s put up seasons of

105
110 (Hart, Art Ross)
85 in 56
110
128
The 3rd highest PPG in the playoffs in NHL history

In his last 5 full seasons is worth less than

Johnny Gaudreau
Jonathan Huberdeau
John Tavares
Mitch Marner
Anze Kopitar
Artemi Panarin
Jack Eichel
Tyler Seguin

There truly has to be something in the water in Toronto

 

[Connor McConnor]

The way he’s playing this year and the linemates (or lack thereof) he’s gotten over the course of his career at ES compared to McDavid tells me he’s going to go for max money and kick it. 14+ seems very possible, especially given that his style of play should be well suited to last the full 8 years

 

[DekeyPete]

Most teams in the league gladly beat this offer.


11% of the cap is breaking the market?

Every team will beat it. It depends where he wants to go. I stand by Dallas lol

 

[Connor McConnor]

Actual value, 9.5M

McDavid inflation effect, 12-12.5M

Whatever team pays him that will regret it. Great player but massively over rated by far too many people, he's a star but not top 5 like so many suggest.

Surprised I haven’t added you to ignore list already. Well done, I have no time for people that are so bias they might have actually convinced themselves they know anything about hockey

 

[SilverKast]

From the player perspective it's also likely his last shot at big time money, why should he pass that up? Injuries can happen at any time so I don't begrudge them their paydays when someone gives it to them. The only question is whether it will be Edmonton who ponies up, or if he leaves town to get paid.

I don't see Edmonton finding a way to pay both of them huge contracts and be competitive, but their fans would be pretty disappointed if they lose either of them like we did Gaudreau.

 

[Rude Dog]

Not sure the amount but it won’t be in Edmonton.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

But how can Draisaitl be sure that the Oilers will be able to keep McDavid around?

The Oilers hired McDavids agent, the man who’s guided his career, to run their team. Jeff Jackson isn’t walking away from a lucrative career as a player agent to take this job if he had any belief McDavid was going to leave in two years.

They’ll pay 97 whatever he wants, they’ve got an owner willing to spend and they’ve given him the keys to the franchise by choosing the person who’s been advising him since he was a kid, to lead their hockey team. I think it says a lot about the long term vision for McDavids camp.

 

[Fatass]

Dr. Drai is going to get 13+ per. The guy is amazing.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

8 years x 13.5m per is my guess.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

The Oilers hired McDavids agent, the man who’s guided his career, to run their team. Jeff Jackson isn’t walking away from a lucrative career as a player agent to take this job if he had any belief McDavid was going to leave in two years.

They’ll pay 97 whatever he wants, they’ve got an owner willing to spend and they’ve given him the keys to the franchise by choosing the person who’s been advising him since he was a kid, to lead their hockey team. I think it says a lot about the long term vision for McDavids camp.

True as to all, but there is still the chance that McDavid will not hang around regardless. There are other teams out there who will be able and willing to meet whatever the Oilers offer, or at least close enough to it that it doesn't make a real difference, and suffice it to say that some of these other locations may offer a more desirable lifestyle.

 

[Breakers]

$110 million has a nice sound to it

So $13.75 X 8 years

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

If he doesn't sign with Edmonton next summer what do they do? If he doesn't want to be in Edmonton and makes it to free agency I think he signs in Nashville

An owner lacing up the skates for his club is not something you'd see every day.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

The dude is from koln Germany. He's used to cold ass weather.

For people used to cold ass weather, it might surprised you but a lot of us dread heat more than cold.

While I can "enjoy" vacation, you gotta pay me a lot more to move south than stay north.

yeah Im one of those people who dread the heat over the cold but that doesnt mean I wanna be in a place where it can go -40 or more. plenty of places that are more so on the cold side but not as cold as EDM gets

 

[FSL KINGS]

11 for two years to make sure Oilers can re-sign 97.

 

[wintersej]

If he hits market…I mean teams were willing to give Tavares 14 before the cap froze up.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

He will take a hometown discount to stay in Edmonton.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think he’s as good as gone unless Edmonton absolutely wrecks their own cap management (more than they already had) and offers him $15M+

Why would you want to stay with a team who has multiple brutal contracts just to be in the shadow of the best player in the world who may or may not even stay on his own?

I think he signs somewhere else (Detroit please) for $12-13M

I've gone back and forth on what my comfortable price would be for him in Detroit.

Larkin at $8.7M, Debrincat at $7.875M. Seider on an 8 year probably comes in at $8.5M - $9.5M unless Claude really wants to bend us over. Raymond will depend on term.

At $13M you get dangerously close to a Leafs cap structure where you can't afford depth. On the other hand, we're pretty much looking at 5% increases on the cap for several years, and guys like Edvinsson/Danielson on ELCs for the next 3-5 years.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Matthews isn't McDavid, not even remotely close. McDavid is by FAR the greatest player of his generation. Maroon 30 goals, Hyman having career years, even Draisaitls numbers with McDavid and on the PP with McDavid, vs away from McDavid have a significant difference.

McDavid will inflate any players numbers, it's not exclusive to Drai. If somehow Matthews was on his wing, I legitimately believe he scores 80+ goals, McDavid is THAT dominant.

Draisaitl is more in the range of players like Kyle Connor, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner. If he ever plays on another team, you will see it for yourself. Numbers have people fooled.

I've gone back and forth on what my comfortable price would be for him in Detroit.

Larkin at $8.7M, Debrincat at $7.875M. Seider on an 8 year probably comes in at $8.5M - $9.5M unless Claude really wants to bend us over. Raymond will depend on term.

At $13M you get dangerously close to a Leafs cap structure where you can't afford depth. On the other hand, we're pretty much looking at 5% increases on the cap for several years, and guys like Edvinsson/Danielson on ELCs for the next 3-5 years.

I mean those numbers really aren’t close to the Leaf’s cap structure Larkin makes like ~$3M less than Matthews did, Debrincat makes ~$3M Less than Marner and Seider makes -$2M less than Tavares while also being a franchise D. Then like you said the cap goes up considerably as well.

It’s very hard to win without a true star player and we don’t have that on the team or coming up in the system.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I mean those numbers really aren’t close to the Leaf’s cap structure Larkin makes like ~$3M less than Matthews did, Debrincat makes ~$3M Less than Marner and Seider makes -$2M less than Tavares while also being a franchise D. Then like you said the cap goes up considerably as well.

It’s very hard to win without a true star player and we don’t have that on the team or coming up in the system.

Matthews - $11.64M
Tavares - $11M
Marner - $10.9M
Reilly - $7.5M
Nylander - $6.96M

Draisaitl - $13M
Seider - $9M
Larkin - $8.7M
Raymond - $8M
Debrincat - $7.875M

I'm going off TOR's current structure because it's what currently hasn't been working for them. You can adjust Matthews if you want, but it really doesn't make all that much difference. Comes out to $46.575M (DET) vs. $48M. (TOR) It's less than a $1.5M difference lol.

Obviously you can start subtracting on Raymond and Seider depending on term. I'm going with what they'd probably cost near on 8 year deals.

 

[DomBarr]

Matthews - $11.64M
Tavares - $11M
Marner - $10.9M
Reilly - $7.5M
Nylander - $6.96M

Draisaitl - $13M
Seider - $9M
Larkin - $8.7M
Raymond - $8M
Debrincat - $7.875M

I'm going off TOR's current structure because it's what currently hasn't been working for them. You can adjust Matthews if you want, but it really doesn't make all that much difference. Comes out to $46.575M (DET) vs. $48M. (TOR) It's less than a $1.5M difference lol.

Obviously you can start subtracting on Raymond and Seider depending on term. I'm going with what they'd probably cost near on 8 year deals.

that is a faulty analysis to use future estimates for one and this years salary for the other considering Matthews is a $13.25 M player next season and Nylander is not goin to make 6.96 M next season and recent estimates has it around $10M plus so really that $1.5 M difference is actually closer to $6.5M

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

that is a faulty analysis to use future estimates for one and this years salary for the other considering Matthews is a $13.25 M player next season and Nylander is not goin to make 6.96 M next season and recent estimates has it around $10M plus so really that $1.5 M difference is actually closer to $6.5M

I guess that's why I literally said:

I'm going off TOR's current structure because it's what currently hasn't been working for them. You can adjust Matthews if you want, but it really doesn't make all that much difference. Comes out to $46.575M (DET) vs. $48M. (TOR) It's less than a $1.5M difference lol.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I'm going off TOR's current structure because it's what currently hasn't been working for them.

And DET's current structure of having zero elite players is working wonders as they stumble to another lottery pick.

I continue to be delighted by the arrogance of Detroit/Ottawa/Buffalo fans with their terrible cautionary "don't want to end up like Toronto!" takes as if a team that can sleepwalk to top 10 finishes every season is somehow the worst case scenario for franchises that are consistently out of the playoff race by Christmas.

If Draisaitl would actually consider Detroit (skeptical) than you pay whatever it costs and figure out the rest later. Elite players, the type that can challenge for Harts are the toughest thing to acquire. You have Ben Chariot for $4.75M lol, you can afford to cut the fat from the bottom of the roster to make room for a talent like Drai.

 

[AvroArrow]

Okay, Laffs tard



Matthews is inflated cause of Marner.

flaming