.921 is pretty damn good. Top 5 in the league and he's still very young.
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.921 is AMAZING.
I think Askarov is currently in the process of very successfully Taking It To The Next Level. This is great for us. I know Milwaukee is a great team anyway, even Grosenick's stats bear that out (and he was almost a veteran washout last year in the AHL with all his injuries), I honestly didn't think he'd be ready for the NHL next season. But now... yeah, he has taken the necessary steps. That is great news.
I didn't even look at his stats. If he can finish out the year and start moving towards .930-.940 it'll signal that he is ready to face the better shooters and harder situations that the NHL will present.
Meh..... goin through the AHL stats history and since the 15/16 season there have been 13 players to hit that mark.
Matt Murray
Peter Budaj
Zane McIntyre
Michael Hunchinson
Garret Sparks
Connor Ingram
Igor Shesterkin
Dan Vladar
Zach Fucale
Logan Thompson
Troy Grosenick
Dustin Wolf
Clay Stephenson (So far this season)
There are some good ones in there but definitely some very forgettable ones. Saros had a .934 but in 15 games. Askarov's last 15 games he has a .930 sv%. Trendingin the rught direction
Rough approximations. For reference, Askarov will turn 22 in the summer.
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Just his last 15 games. His aggregate for the season is .921 which is still very respectable. He is on pace to get to there with the young end of the crowd assuming he doesnt get moved up to NHL backup status before then.
Armourboy
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Listening to Poile this morning on the radio it very much sounded like he is advising Trotz to be patient with the Askarov/Saros situation. That said he sounded a bit like a guy that would be leaning towards trading Saros next season if Askarov kept progressing. Obviously he isn't in charge anymore but it does sound like he does still have some serious pull there.
He did remind everyone that Pekka spent 3 full years in Milwaukee before coming up and said Askarov still had some things he needed to work on before making the move up.
He did remind everyone that Pekka spent 3 full years in Milwaukee before coming up and said Askarov still had some things he needed to work on before making the move up.
I heard that same interview which was very interesting. I think it sounded to me like the most likely scenario was extending Saros. Either way he did agree that it was question that will continue to come up until one is moved or Saros is extended.
Also interesting was his upfront comment that he wished he never would've traded Weber and the trade negotiations could've been better to avoid that entire situation. It sounded like they regret not offering him a max deal and were likely offering a shorter term contract which caused Weber to sign the OS with Philly.
Honestly with the new system... i lean towards a tall, acrobatic, athletic goalie vs a small, fast, technical goalie. Feel like that extra height plus the padding might help compensate for the extra chances this system is going to give up
Armourboy
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Well I got the sense from it too Weber kind of understood that offersheet left the team in a bad spot too. It honestly sounded like two guys that really wish they had a mulligan.
Yeah I think the big issue right now is you almost wish Saros had another year to see how things go. I think Askarov will be the guy, just don't know how we go about getting there.
Trade saros in the offseason or deadline get another vet stopgap if need be like samsanov for a year. Go from a finnish tandem to a russian tandem.
Armourboy
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Well I got the sense they think it's just way too early to put your eggs in the Askarov basket fully.
That said I think depending on what Saros is asking for and how Askarov does in the playoffs things could change in the offseason.
BigFatCat999
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My 'but' on that is one of those years Rinne got jacked and dislocated a shoulder
The Admirals played longer than I expected last season, making it to the conference finals. I expect one more step this year, with the Ads winning the WC and the Hershey Bears winning the EC.
Hershey has awesome stats, so I believe they will win the Calder Cup.
Scoresberg
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Biggest hurdle for Askarov in making the NHL will be consistency. The acrobatic saves look nice but you can't base your whole playing style on those.
I was talking to a goalie coach in Finnish Liiga and he said that Askarov's type of talent only gets you so far. When you look at the top goalies in the NHL as of now, Hellebuyck, Oettinger etc. they are very calm, structured and their package is solid. There's not a lot of "extra" movement in their game.
Especially with how far he plays from the net, you need really tight defense and rebound clearence. This is one thing he really needs to focus on, he will get burned for it in the NHL. The shooters are just too talented at changing the angles at the last second or even finding that last-second seam pass.
I understand that the aspect that makes Askarov so special is his wildness and unorthodox style but I don't see that being a successful style, long-term in the NHL. I hope that with age and some good coaching they are able to polish his game to a more steady presence and shave off that extra movement.
I'm cautiously optimistic as his talented is undeniable. But his style needs to be different if he wants to be an NHL goalie long-term.
I was talking to a goalie coach in Finnish Liiga and he said that Askarov's type of talent only gets you so far. When you look at the top goalies in the NHL as of now, Hellebuyck, Oettinger etc. they are very calm, structured and their package is solid. There's not a lot of "extra" movement in their game.
Especially with how far he plays from the net, you need really tight defense and rebound clearence. This is one thing he really needs to focus on, he will get burned for it in the NHL. The shooters are just too talented at changing the angles at the last second or even finding that last-second seam pass.
I understand that the aspect that makes Askarov so special is his wildness and unorthodox style but I don't see that being a successful style, long-term in the NHL. I hope that with age and some good coaching they are able to polish his game to a more steady presence and shave off that extra movement.
I'm cautiously optimistic as his talented is undeniable. But his style needs to be different if he wants to be an NHL goalie long-term.
Armourboy
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His unorthodox style is why they drafted him as high as they did, they aren't going to get rid of that because they don't want too. What they will do is take the fish out of water stuff out of his game like you often saw in Pekka's early years here.
You look at the best goalie to play in this league and they all had a bit of a wild streak at times, which is what made them the best. Those guys you listed may be good solid goalies, but no one is going to put them in a list of best of all time.
You look at the best goalie to play in this league and they all had a bit of a wild streak at times, which is what made them the best. Those guys you listed may be good solid goalies, but no one is going to put them in a list of best of all time.
Scoresberg
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Yeah, I was talking about modern era hockey. The haseks of the old just aren't around anymore.
I think Askarov has all the tools to be as great as Vasilevski has been. But what Vasy has done compared to when he was a junior, he has toned it down. I do hope the same happens with Askarov as well.
Brodeur, Roy, Hasek, and Belfour were the best goalies for a long time. All were aggressive and all were no less than borderline generational
Scoresberg
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Remind me again of the Era they played in? I am specifically talking about modern goalies here.
Armourboy
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They were all modern goalies, practically created the more modern style of goaltending
Yup, that's the part where Trotz has said something to the effect that his game is still a little "noisy and he needs to quiet it down". Marrying his God given athletic ability and aggressiveness with fundamentals and an elite foundation could be something special.
100% agreed, Pekka is the best "unorthodox style" goalie that comes to mind recently. He wasn't a hothead, but he flopped around as much as anyone. My frustrations with Pekka sound similar to what we're seeing from Askarov. He'll make some saves he has no business making, and let in goals he has no business letting in. Saros is much more stable, so we'll have to get used to that again, but I dont think we should change the way he plays.
I will, right after you tell me the fundamental changes the position has gone through in the last 20 years that would make their style of play obsolete today, or tell me which of today's goalies you feel are on this same level. I understand the game has changed, and I agree, he's got to learn when to be aggressive, but to say he has to remain calm and settled defeats the entire reason you drafted him in the first place.
