Dodgers, Angels, Rams, Lakers, and Clippers Discussion IV

[ADifferentTim]

1. Or the first time the decision comes as to who takes the final shot.

2. Kobe is going to be the NBA's version of Brett Favre when it comes time to retire or step aside.

1. If I were Byron Scott, I'd rather give it to Kobe instead of Carmelo; Carmelo deserves to get dissed, "no ring like Ewing", for being a ballhog.

2. No. I'd rather see him develop talent than hold them back, post-retirement.

I'm thinking/hoping that Kobe will eventually force a trade.

No; that's as sacrilegious as the idea of trading Derek Jeter from the Yankees.

Seeing him in another jersey would be painful.

2nded.

I can already see the comments from idiots on the Lakers' Facebook page if Melo signs.

Before season: "Ring$ Ring$"

When reality hits: "FIRE [coach's name]!"

Again, Carmelo is a ballhog, to the point I even saw him implode on that 51-point game the Knicks lost against a Los Angeles Lakers team that had Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Steve Nash out of the season.

I always laughed my ass off when people constantly complained about D'Antoni this year. That roster was straight garbage. PMS said one day that they had seen more talent and a higher compete level on women's high school teams.

D'Antoni does not even believe in defense, to the point Gregg Popovich owns him in coaching. See 2007 NBA Western Conference Semifinals for reference.

Bunch of haters in here geeze, a down year or 2 and it like everyone loses their minds. I would expect the Laker hate in the ducks boards but not here

I will just leave this here to remind you: http://www.nba.com/lakers/history/year_by_year.html

I bet fans of other NBA teams cannot handle the pressures of being a worldwide team like the Lakers; even Kobe Bryant endorses Lenovo in the Philippines.

Translation: "No abandoning (always by your side)"

Coaches are to Lakers fans what goaltenders are to Blues fans.

Don't get me started when Lakers fans demanded Phil Jackson, right before STAPLES Center opened, let alone the 1999-2000 NBA Season, while that analogy is weak because St. Louis is a baseball town.

Off-topic, but this is STL's pro sports hierarchy.

1. St. Louis Cardinals, MLB
2. St. Louis Rams, NFL (Georgia Frontiere's fault)
3. St. Louis Blues, NHL

 

[HYORI 1963]

Anyone with any Rams news? I know they signed all of their draft picks, but anything else?

 

[Herby]

Anyone with any Rams news? I know they signed all of their draft picks, but anything else?

Unfortunately Sam Bradford is still the QB.

 

[The Night King]

Clippers continue to their mission to become Lakers 2.0, sign Jordan Farmar.

 

[ADifferentTim]

Clippers continue to their mission to become Lakers 2.0, sign Jordan Farmar.

This simply shows the direct consequences of Jim Buss' ZERO basketball IQ.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Clippers continue to their mission to become Lakers 2.0, sign Jordan Farmar.

That's a downgrade from Darren Collison... but he could be a good fit under Doc.

 

[KopitarFAN]

That's a downgrade from Darren Collison... but he could be a good fit under Doc.

Rather have him than pay Collison 3/16.

 

[took420s]

Farmar is a scrub, couldn't wait for the Melodrama to unfold.

Steve Blake will be back and is better on offense and defense.

 

[Herby]

Nice to know the second best record in baseball is good for only one all-star spot.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Nice to know the second best record in baseball is good for only one all-star spot.

Are you talking about the Brewers?

 

[Herby]

Are you talking about the Brewers?

The Halos are ahead of the Brewers by pct. points.

The Brew Crew are my NL team (fiance's from there), the Brewers sent four players.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Does anyone think that the lakers can be a playoff team within the next 4-5 years? I'm sure they won't have problem attracting FAs here, but the lakers are going to be a borderline playoff team imo. Where did this franchise go so wrong?

 

[ADifferentTim]

Does anyone think that the lakers can be a playoff team within the next 4-5 years? I'm sure they won't have problem attracting FAs here, but the lakers are going to be a borderline playoff team imo. Where did this franchise go so wrong?

I have two words for you: Jim Buss. His ******* ego, specifically his inferiority complex towards any link and association with Phil Jackson, is ruining the Lakers.

 

[HYORI 1963]

I have two words for you: Jim Buss. His ******* ego, specifically his inferiority complex towards any link and association with Phil Jackson, is ruining the Lakers.

Yeah, I figured Jim Buss would be the quick answer. Just what is Kupchak's role with the lakers if Buss is running the show?

 

[KopitarFAN]

Nice to know the second best record in baseball is good for only one all-star spot.

Garrett Richards is the only other player on that team that is worthy, and he is up for the final vote because others have had better years (Felix, Tanaka and Darvish without a doubt) and Sale should have made it over Buehrle, Kazmir or Lester (although ATM, he is Bostons' only rep)

 

[took420s]

Does anyone think that the lakers can be a playoff team within the next 4-5 years? I'm sure they won't have problem attracting FAs here, but the lakers are going to be a borderline playoff team imo. Where did this franchise go so wrong?

No doubt in my mind.

to answer you question of where the franchise went so wrong let me again post this:

http://www.nba.com/lakers/history/year_by_year.html

2009-2010 Lakers win its second of back to back titles against its biggest rival the Celtics.

2010-2011 Phil's last year before RETIREMENT, they get swept by a Dallas team in the second round that was not losing to anyone it was simply their year.

2011-2012 They get to 2nd round under Mike Brown in a shortened lockout season.

2012-2013 They suffer the Dwightmare, newly aquired Steve Nash breaks his leg in the second game and is never the same due to nerve damage. Dwight pouts all year for not being featured in the offense and has one foot out of the door the whole time. Meanwhile the guy they traded for Him (Bynum) has played a handful of games since the trade due to his own injury issues.

2013-2014 More man games lost due to injury than any team in recent memory, during one famous game they only had 5 available players and one of them was allowed to play with 6 fouls due to no one else being active off the bench.

Just a few years ago they were on back to back titles, core had aged they are reloading simple as that...look at that link again, then again and tell me there is a reason to panic? The Lakers organization does not stay down for long.

 

[ADifferentTim]

Yeah, I figured Jim Buss would be the quick answer. Just what is Kupchak's role with the lakers if Buss is running the show?

Let's put it this way:

If the Lakers were the Yankees, then...
Jim Buss would be Hank Steinbrenner
Jeanie Buss would be Hal Steinbrenner
Mitch Kupchak would be Brian Cashman.

I hope that analogy helps.

 

[took420s]

Yeah, I figured Jim Buss would be the quick answer. Just what is Kupchak's role with the lakers if Buss is running the show?

Jim and Mitch have been working side by side for at least a decade. Jim gets all the hate but no credit. He was the owner who insisted they draft Bynum, was in charge when they traded for Gasol, helped orchestrate the CP3 trade that was nixed by the league in a shady circumstance, etc etc.

Phil retired as a coach, he was never coming back the D'antoni hire was signed off by Jerry Buss in an effort to resurrect showtime. Its nonsense to think Jim has shunned Phil or cast him out the guy is a coach has no experience running a team the Lakers already have a proven team to manage thing where did Phil fit??

 

[ADifferentTim]

1. Jim and Mitch have been working side by side for at least a decade. Jim gets all the hate but no credit. He was the owner who insisted they draft Bynum, was in charge when they traded for Gasol, helped orchestrate the CP3 trade that was nixed by the league in a shady circumstance, etc etc.

Phil retired as a coach, he was never coming back the D'antoni hire was signed off by Jerry Buss in an effort to resurrect showtime. Its nonsense to think Jim has shunned Phil or cast him out the guy is a coach has no experience running a team the Lakers already have a proven team to manage ...where did Phil fit??

Looks like I drank the Kool-Aid.

Then, whose idea was it to trade for Kwame Brown to begin with?

That trade denial by the NBA actually hurt the league, PR-wise, in the long run more than it did hurt the Lakers, especially when the Lakers have a worldwide mystique like the Yankees do.

Also, what was Jim thinking when he hired "literally no defense" D'Antoni? Byron Scott is the most appropriate candidate and he went to the NBA Finals before.

 

[Derp Kassian]

Isaiah Thomas
Kobe
Melo
Randle
Pau?

Not getting past any top 5 team in the west.

 

[Ron*]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 13m
RT @WindhorstESPN: For four years, Dan Gilbert's LeBron letter has lived on team website. Appears was removed today: http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html …

What a ****ing moron Dan Gilbert is. I can't believe he kept that stupid letter on the teams OFFICIAL web site that long. I can't believe LBJ is actually even considering going back there.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Here's a laugher, unless the lakers are really awful, which they won't be unless Kobe is as injury prone as he was in 13-14, they don't own their 1st round pick, it goes to Phoenix unless it's in the top 5.

 

[damacles1156]

Anyone with any Rams news? I know they signed all of their draft picks, but anything else?

Bradford is still the QB so they will be 8-8 again. Defense will be really good though.

But Bradford is not an (it) factor QB, coming off a major injury, that may make his poor pocket presence worse.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Here's a laugher, unless the lakers are really awful, which they won't be unless Kobe is as injury prone as he was in 13-14, they don't own their 1st round pick, it goes to Phoenix unless it's in the top 5.

"Asset management."

 

[HYORI 1963]

Unfortunately Sam Bradford is still the QB.

Bradford is still the QB so they will be 8-8 again. Defense will be really good though.

But Bradford is not an (it) factor QB, coming off a major injury, that may make his poor pocket presence worse.

Yeah, I'm not exactly high on this guy either, but I'm willing to give him at least another half a season. So far, he hasn't shown me anything to make him the 1st round pick, let alone, the very 1st pick overall. Yikes!

But yeah, that rams defense is going to be fun to watch. I just hope the secondary can also score some.