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Prospect Info: Devils Win #2 Overall -- Slafkovsky vs. Jiricek vs. Nemec

What should we do with #2?

  • Slafkovsky

    Votes: 220 61.5%

  • Jiricek

    Votes: 56 15.6%

  • Nemec

    Votes: 30 8.4%

  • Trade it

    Votes: 39 10.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 13 3.6%
  • Total voters
    358
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Forge said:
Who is this guy? I saw that he also said that no scouts he talked to had Savoie with a top 15 grade, meanwhile he's still getting top 5 votes from Bobby Mac's flash poll and was #4 I think in the mid year rankings?
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Savoie got 2 top 5 vote in the most recent flash poll by Bobby Mac and seemingly came in at 7.

Went like this:
1. Wright (6/9 #1 votes)
2. Slafkovsky (2/9 #1)
3. Cooley (1/9 #1)
4. Nemec
5. Kemell

Jiricek (3 top 5 votes)
Savoie (2 top 5 vote)

beekay414 said:
He won't be by the time the draft rolls around.
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Why is that? His season is done. Jiricek has the World Championships to win scouts over but I don’t think he’s necessarily gonna do amazing. His first game wasn’t anything to write home about other than his goal. We’ll see how he does against better teams but this tournament is the only way for him to pass others.
In Bob Mackenzie’s most recent flash poll only 3 of 9 NHL scouts had him in the top 5.
 
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Captain3rdLine said:
Savoie got 1 top 5 vote in the most recent flash poll by Bobby Mac and seemingly came in at 7.

Went like this:
1. Wright (6/9 #1 votes)
2. Slafkovsky (2/9 #1)
3. Cooley (1/9 #1)
4. Nemec
5. Kemell

Jiricek (2 top 5 votes)
Savoie (1 top 5 vote)
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Finnish winger Joakim Kemell, No. 3 on the mid-season rankings, checks in at No. 5 today.

Winnipeg Ice forward Matt Savoie, who was No. 4 on the mid-season rankings, did get a pair of top-five votes in the lottery edition poll but not enough to get by Nemec or Kemell. Czechia defender David Jiricek, No. 7 at mid-season, picked up three Top 5 votes this time. Jiricek was the closest to challenging Kemell for the No. 5 spot.
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Captain3rdLine said:
Kemell is ranked higher than Jiricek though and I wouldn’t be even slightly suprised if he dropped to 6. I wouldn’t be suprised if Nemec did either but I think it’s less likely.
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If you saw Jiricek's performance in the WC, I think you'd be as confident as I am that Jiricek finishes the year top 5. He's really something else. Apparently in the McKenzie poll is was really tight between Jiricek and Kemell, anyway.
 
StevenToddIves said:
If you saw Jiricek's performance in the WC, I think you'd be as confident as I am that Jiricek finishes the year top 5. He's really something else. Apparently in the McKenzie poll is was really tight between Jiricek and Kemell, anyway.
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What?! I watched the entire game. He started terribly. Had two bad plays leading to really good chances for the other team. And then another questionable pass that almost got his teammates head taken off a few shifts later. And then he barely played in the second.

He did however look pretty good on the powerplay and the shot on his goal came as advertised.

And then other than that there’s wasn’t much noticeably good or bad.
He played a lot more once they had a bit of a lead and he was fine, didn’t make any mistakes but wasn’t really active offensively or doing anything noticeable.

I would describe the game as okay. Certainly not something that’s gonna push him above other prospects. Terrible start made up for by a goal in the 3rd I guess and a whole lot of nothing the rest of the game. Didn’t really get challenged defensively although there was one play where he did pretty well to stop them and turn the puck up ice. He wasn’t throwing guys around though or imposing himself physically but he also didn’t really get that many chances to.

This isn’t really how he played but I wasn’t very impressed with his skating. While he has pretty quick feet for a big guy it’s pretty choppy and could be much smoother and more effective.

That wasn’t a performance that’s gonna guarantee him a spot in the top 5.
 
SteveCangialosi123 said:
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he should delete his twitter account
 
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My3Sons said:
To be fair rankings are subjective and will vary from team to team.
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Ya I’m not saying he won’t go top 5. He very possibly could. But there’s also a pretty good chance he doesn’t. He’s far from a top 5 lock.

In a poll of NHL head scouts.
Only 3 of 9 scouts had him in there top 5.
 
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Eggtimer said:
This makes me feel 100 times better. If he is BPA at 2 plus fills a massive need then it should be a no brainer. Yes it could end up beig Jiricek is the better player but if you see Slaf as the BPA plus habe a massive need for him , you cannot torture yourself if in 5 years another olayer ends up better than who you took at #2.
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I think as NJ fans we are too tuned into the failure element with Zacha and watching Patrick or Kakko. My guess is the differences will be of degree and stylistic but not fatal.
 
My3Sons said:
I think as NJ fans we are too tuned into the failure element with Zacha and watching Patrick or Kakko. My guess is the differences will be of degree and stylistic but not fatal.
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Yes. Whenever I hear power forward prospect I immediately think - good chance of busting. WhI have isnt fair as I haven’t watched other prospects before that were projected to be impactful power forwards.
 
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Eggtimer said:
Yes. Whenever I hear power forward prospect I immediately think - good chance of busting. WhI have isnt fair as I haven’t watched other prospects before that were projected to be impactful power forwards.
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Slaf is a skilled player. To my limited eyes he’s a big skilled guy more than a power forward. His stature and frame allow him to protect the puck and his reach helps as well but I don’t see a thumper in the traditional sense.
 
beekay414 said:
I mean, it likely wouldn't happen but I'd consider it. You're locked into getting a supreme talent with one of Nazar or Savoie at 6 and then you have a shot at adding a power forward like Cutter Gauthier at 12 or someone like Danila Yurov.
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Slaf is a supreme talent
Wright is a supreme (I guess) talent
Nemec is a supreme(kinda) talent

Nazar and Savoie? I think they're very good players...but not supreme talents.
 
Eggtimer said:
Yes. Whenever I hear power forward prospect I immediately think - good chance of busting. WhI have isnt fair as I haven’t watched other prospects before that were projected to be impactful power forwards.
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When I hear a top power forward prospect with his skill set, I’m an optimist and pray he turns into a Rantanen or Mats Sundin lol
 
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Eggtimer said:
Yes I’m wantimg a Ranatanen but if we end up with a Killorn or Kassian….
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He's a step above Kassian, and Killorn would still be a huge upgrade to the current Devils lineup. It's maybe not what you want at 2nd overall, but if that's what's on the board, you take it.

If you look at the league's elite wingers, they're taken at the top of the draft. If you look at the league's elite defensemen, they come from all over the draft. Take the forward, especially when you luck into a forward that's an incredible fit.
 
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Hockey Sports Fan said:
He's a step above Kassian, and Killorn would still be a huge upgrade to the current Devils lineup. It's maybe not what you want at 2nd overall, but if that's what's on the board, you take it.

If you look at the league's elite wingers, they're taken at the top of the draft. If you look at the league's elite defensemen, they come from all over the draft. Take the forward, especially when you luck into a forward that's an incredible fit.
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Yes but #1 D are worth their weight in gold. But also, Slaf’s set of skills make him very rare as well.
Would Slaf be seen as good of a prospect as say Matthew Tkachuk was?
 
Eggtimer said:
Yes but #1 D are worth their weight in gold. But also, Slaf’s set of skills make him very rare as well.
Would Slaf be seen as good of a prospect as say Matthew Tkachuk was?
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NJ probably doesn’t need another skilled defender though. They need one that can make basic puck plays and make a good pass out of the zone but they need one that can defend and PK and clear the crease who is a righty. Luke Hughes and Mukhamadullin and Smith and Dr Evil and Severson all have plenty of skill nut Siegs is the only guy that you want out there on the PK.
 
My3Sons said:
NJ probably doesn’t need another skilled defender though. They need one that can make basic puck plays and make a good pass out of the zone but they need one that can defend and PK and clear the crease who is a righty. Luke Hughes and Mukhamadullin and Smith and Dr Evil and Severson all have plenty of skill nut Siegs is the only guy that you want out there on the PK.
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Yes I agree with you, we have skill in D and need another Seigs type . Im pro Slafkovsky. 2025 Conn Smythe winner Slafkovsky for the NJ Devils.
 
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