Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

[Unknown Caller]

Yegor has to go in any deal. He will probably demand somewhere around what Mikheyev got (4.5M AAV for 3 to 4 years) ,they do have the same agency after all. I love the kid and he is so wholesome, but that is too expensive for the role he fills. The well dries up if he's not playing with Jack.

Sharangovich is a legit top 6 scorer. He's a very good player. The Devils don't utilize him properly, but that doesn't mean that another team can't or won't. He could light it up in a regular top 6 role.

 

[Hisch13r]

Yegor has to go in any deal. He will probably demand somewhere around what Mikheyev got (4.5M AAV for 3 to 4 years) ,they do have the same agency after all. I love the kid and he is so wholesome, but that is too expensive for the role he fills. The well dries up if he's not playing with Jack.

He is not getting that much money. Mikheyev last year was on pace for 30+ goals 50 pts. He had 21 goals in 53 games. Yegor might not end up hitting 21 this year.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Sharangovich is a legit top 6 scorer. He's a very good player. The Devils don't utilize him properly, but that doesn't mean that another team can't or won't. He could light it up in a regular top 6 role.

I don't mean this to compare their play styles at all, but he feels like a Killorn type guy to me. That is to say he can hang with talented guys, he can move up and down the lineup without being a liability anywhere, he can contribute anywhere, he can kill penalties, he can play the PP, he works hard and he should be able to be had for relatively cheap. He's that kind of versatile player that good teams need when they start to get capped out so when injuries happen you aren't pushing someone like Bastian or Wood into the top 6.

I don't know if Z has the same versatility. He might, he's definitely a good player. He's just more or an unproven entity at this point in his career.

 

[GeNeXt]

He is not getting that much money. Mikheyev last year was on pace for 30+ goals 50 pts. He had 21 goals in 53 games. Yegor might not end up hitting 21 this year.

He is a RFA so doesn't have too much leverage other than the threat to go to the KHL, but I think the cap going up is going to play a factor in the money a 24 years old, averaging 20ish goals and PKing will demand. I just think he will need to be the guy to go in a deal for Meier or anohter bigger acquistion. He's good player to sell high on, though his production is lagging some this season.

 

[JimEIV]

Really curious to see if there is an extension attached to this Horvat deal. This essentially sets the market for Meier, I would imagine.

From a Devils perspective, Holtz + Sharangovich + 1st seems pretty in line with what Canucks just got. Value-wise, Devils should have no problems meeting that if Holtz and the first are on the table.

I wonder if the Horvat deal spurs more movement

 

[MadDevil]

Kind of weird the graphic creator felt the need to project his numbers for each year? It almost looks deceptive if you don't know any better and glance quick.

You mean the 82 game pace where his numbers PROGRESS every season? Not surprised you find that weird.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I love this one sharks fan on twitter trying to convince people the Devils don't need Nemec and should happily be trading him away from Timo.

 

[JimEIV]

You mean the 82 game pace where his numbers PROGRESS every season? Not surprised you find that weird.

Weird that his stats aren't presented as is and literally "pace" his entire career to date.

 

[MadDevil]

Weird that his stats aren't presented as is and literally "pace" his entire career to date.

It's almost like it's a card to evaluate market value or something.

 

[JimEIV]

It's almost like it's a card to evaluate market value or something.

I sold an 8-ball once I was on pace to be Pablo Escobar.

 

[TrufleShufle]

I love this one sharks fan on twitter trying to convince people the Devils don't need Nemec and should happily be trading him away from Timo.

I mean I could see that if you watched our D depth scroll past real fast on a screen and didn't have time to look at which side or playstyle they each played.....

It's why people can't understand when we say, we don't need Quinn, and only talk about him for his name but can't even think about losing Nemac.

 

[MadDevil]

I sold an 8-ball once I was on pace to be Pablo Escobar.

Okay Tony...

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

SOURCE: Sharks Want 3 Pieces for Meier?

Not sure if this was shared here but that's a reasonable ask from SJ?

 

[JimEIV]

SOURCE: Sharks Want 3 Pieces for Meier?

Not sure if this was shared here but that's a reasonable ask from SJ?

Seems right inline with what everyone has been saying. Seems reasonable to me.

 

[Hisch13r]

SOURCE: Sharks Want 3 Pieces for Meier?

Not sure if this was shared here but that's a reasonable ask from SJ?

So 1st, Holtz, Yegor? Or is that saying it could be Muk instead of Yegor? Either way basically the speculation and right in line with the Horvat deal

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

So 1st, Holtz, Yegor? Or is that saying it could be Muk instead of Yegor? Either way basically the speculation and right in line with the Horvat deal

I'd do it for a lower roster player at first but if they draw the line in the sand for Sharangovich, I'd begrudgingly do it. I think he'll flourish in a top line spot in SJ but we'd have an entire top 6 already filled besides what we do in the future with Palat in the middle 6. Mercer, Jack, Nico, Meier, Bratt.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I'd do it for a lower roster player at first but if they draw the line in the sand for Sharangovich, I'd begrudgingly do it. I think he'll flourish in a top line spot in SJ but we'd have an entire top 6 already filled besides what we do in the future with Palat in the middle 6. Mercer, Jack, Nico, Meier, Bratt.

Only way to keep Yegor out of this deal is to pony up Casey

 

[Hisch13r]

I'd do it for a lower roster player at first but if they draw the line in the sand for Sharangovich, I'd begrudgingly do it. I think he'll flourish in a top line spot in SJ but we'd have an entire top 6 already filled besides what we do in the future with Palat in the middle 6. Mercer, Jack, Nico, Meier, Bratt.

Yeah I mean I’d love to not include him but I don’t think a lesser guy does it. Like Boqvist, Bastian, McLeod, Wood aren’t doing it and I’d keep Zetterlund over Yegor. It also said established so I doubt like Okhotyuk or Bahl does it

 

[JimEIV]

I'd prefer to keep Sharangovich also.

 

[Hisch13r]

Only way to keep Yegor out of this deal is to pony up Casey

I really don’t think SJ is interested in Casey at all and @Guttersniped has done all the leg work for me already. They’d be more interested in Muk.

 

[Saugus]

I thought for sure that Horvat was going to go to the former Whalers. Now I'm a bit more worried that they will swoop in for Meier, but maybe that's irrational and it makes no difference.

 

[Hisch13r]

I thought for sure that Horvat was going to go to the former Whalers. Now I'm a bit more worried that they will swoop in for Meier, but maybe that's irrational and it makes no difference.

Unless they’re throwing in Jarvis they’re not a threat

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Only way to keep Yegor out of this deal is to pony up Casey

I'd sooner do that.

 

[Oneiro]

In Grier's position, he's got to ice a hockey team next year, but I don't know if I'd really want Sharangovich, unless the plan is to eventually flip him too as we did with Palmieri, Johansson, Boyle, etc. They have a long way to go to turn things around but I guess NHL GMs are incentivized to dream about a fast rebuild, no matter how unrealistic.

 

[JimEIV]

What are our cap implications if we were to take on Meier? Significant money has to be going the other way to make it work right?

I mean don't we only have a couple of million in space left? I never pay attention to the cap