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Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

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I mean, Fitzy said it plainly yesterday that there was a chance they weren't going to qualify them for that very reason. My man doesn't lie to us.
 
I think McLeod gets a lot of shit on here that he probably doesn't deserve, but there's also a sect that probably praises him a little too much.

I think he's a good piece and good 4th liner, but I've also maintained that we shouldn't be overpaying for someone like him.

It's right up there with the ''Sign Wood for 4 years and maybe we can get him for $3.5 million per'' stuff that was thrown around early last season.

Not that I think anybody seriously suggested signing McLeod for anything near $3.5 million, but I've seen some numbers over $2 and that's too much for me.
 
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TrufleShufle said:
Why can't you look at them like a great tandem and make them both the priority. I know everyone loves to throw around the idea that you can just pick up random guys and shove them down there, but looking around the league at other teams, I wonder why no one every told some of them that.

We know what we have in them, it's gotta be easier to work something out with them than hoping for FA and then still needing to work something out.
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I know, everyone keeps talking about how super cheap, big, defensively solid bottom six players are plentiful in UFA market and I’m always curious how I miss this phenomenon.
 
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My cap on 4th liners is in the range of $1.5 Million and that's pushing it. Money is better used elsewhere.
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Yep and I'm happy to see that Fitz thinks that way too. You can generally always find decent 4th liners on the cheap since they tend to get recycled a lot. It's considerably easier still when you're a competitive team that players want to play for.
 
i actually think gibson would do ok in a backup role behind a better team. but the ducks would have to be prepared to retain big time.
 
Bleedred said:
I think McLeod gets a lot of shit on here that he probably doesn't deserve, but there's also a sect that probably praises him a little too much.

I think he's a good piece and good 4th liner, but I've also maintained that we shouldn't be overpaying for someone like him.

It's right up there with the ''Sign Wood for 4 years and maybe we can get him for $3.5 million per'' stuff that was thrown around early last season.

Not that I think anybody seriously suggested signing McLeod for anything near $3.5 million, but I've seen some numbers over $2 and that's too much for me.
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But the people who don’t think he’s worth ~2m are wrong too.

It’s just hopelessly complicated by the endless delay of the Hockey Canada report. I don’t know if you can let him file for arbitration and think Uncle Gary will bail you out if he becomes toxic after the fact if it goes bad for him.

That’s a rhetorical “I don’t know” I really don’t know and don’t want to debate/ discuss it, I prefer waiting to see what happens. (I don’t need to hear people defend him or whatever.)
 
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Would much rather have a GM that is wary of overpaying good 4th liners than a GM that gives 4th liners fat contracts. Cap flexibility is more important than retaining players you have an emotional attachment to. These guys have a fairly low impact on wins and losses and we have a cheap guy (Lazar) that can plug in for any of them.

I’d like to keep them, but my expectations for the team change 0% if we have new faces on the 4th line. If it’s a problem, it can be dealt with at the deadline.
 
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Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...
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For Player elected arbitration, the Team can walk away if the award is $4,538,958M or more in 2020. If they walk away, the player becomes a UFA.
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Why you are seeing a lot of players non qualified.
 
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