JimEIV
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That has to be done on purpose to trigger us.
I always felt bad for Modry...he was behind a murderers row of defensemen in New Jersey
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That has to be done on purpose to trigger us.
it's bad enough to not recognize we needed a stud goalie prospect in 2020, but to say fitz made the right call even with the benefit of hindsight is really something else.People are talking as if drafting goalies is any more of a sure thing than drafting skaters and like Askarov is already some proven asset (granted, nobody develops goalies like Nashville so he'll probably hit), he's had three starts in the NHL and been okay in the AHL so far - granted he's still ridiculously young but our own guys we've drafted who've already seen a lot more of the NHL are still fairly young too.
Goalies are voodoo, he didn't want to draft one with a top seven pick for the same reason he doesn't want to go shopping at Neiman Marcus for mostly okay-ish 'proven' options, especially when at the time we had ****ing Blackwood at 23 who was coming off of two solid years to start his career on crap teams. Amazing yet not surprising how quickly that timeline is forgotten given how badly Blackwood's career turned right after that.
What would be the narrative here if Askarov was still in Utica with meh numbers on a bleh AHL team while Holtz was popping in 20+ goals elsewhere in an organization not looking at him to be Jere Lehtinen?
Yikes lol.
Must not have much to write about to begin with if we're diving into a history of draft picks from a round that hasn't existed in what, 20 years now?
That feels like a GPT-generated article that wasn't fact checked before hitting Publish.
Bizarre factual errors, nonsensical topic, and irrelevant players included in the list.
It’s crazy to think that it’s up there for best goalie season by a devil for anyone not named Brodeur. But even during his great moments, vanacek seemed like a high wire act of a goalie. Lots of scrambling in the net, but like you said he had the determination and battled to get the saves at the right time. He was the one who was hurt most by losing guys like Graves and Severson. A lot of dangerous chances that would have been cleared out of the crease in 23 did not happen in 24 and vanacek got the worst of it. Could have done more to help himself though certainly.This isn't relevant to this year's team of course, but man, I've been rewatching some of the clips from 22-23 and it's wild how much Vitek plummeted in terms of his game. He had some really brilliant moments in a number of games where his sheer determination/battling was getting him some saves that didn't seem possible.
I suppose it was just when he started to let more pucks in that his confidence deteriorated and he couldn't overcome it. Still feel for the guy, seemed like a gem of a human. Hope he does alright in San Jose.
Why?it's bad enough to not recognize we needed a stud goalie prospect in 2020, but to say fitz made the right call even with the benefit of hindsight is really something else.
That has to be done on purpose to trigger us.
I always felt bad for Modry...he was behind a murderers row of defensemen in New Jersey
Yikes lol.
Must not have much to write about to begin with if we're diving into a history of draft picks from a round that hasn't existed in what, 20 years now?
very topical content!
That feels like a GPT-generated article that wasn't fact checked before hitting Publish.
Bizarre factual errors, nonsensical topic, and irrelevant players included in the list.
It's real bad.
weren't you complaining about the price of markstrom? i'm assuming you understand that filling a goalie hole is much more difficult than literally any other hole on the team. we had 3 picks in the first round and had every opportunity to draft the best goalie prospect since carey price. daddy fitz blew it, it's ok to admit that.Why?
It wouldn't surprise me if there is a general philosophy to not to draft goalies in the first round in our organization. Or just too high in general...
The 2019-20 season was a pretty demoralizing year coming off of a playoff appearance..it was obvious the team was full of holes...we fired the GM, the coach and reworked the front office...we had a fire sale trading Hall, Greene, Coleman, Vatanen...
If I'm the GM I'm not thinking goalies are the priority...I'm thinking I need to replace 75% of the skaters.
Blackwood at 42 or wherever he was drafted was the highest goalie prospect since I dunno when...Lou wasting firsts on Ahonen and Damphousse? (answer was actually Jeff Frazee with a slightly higher two, but before that those were the last first-round goalies we drafted)Why?
It wouldn't surprise me if there is a general philosophy to not to draft goalies in the first round in our organization. Or just too high in general...
The 2019-20 season was a pretty demoralizing year coming off of a playoff appearance..it was obvious the team was full of holes...we fired the GM, the coach and reworked the front office...we had a fire sale trading Hall, Greene, Coleman, Vatanen...
If I'm the GM I'm not thinking goalies are the priority...I'm thinking I need to replace 75% of the skaters.
weren't you complaining about the price of markstrom? i'm assuming you understand that filling a goalie hole is much more difficult than literally any other hole on the team. we had 3 picks in the first round and had every opportunity to draft the best goalie prospect since carey price. daddy fitz blew it, it's ok to admit that.
I'm not saying it looks like the right call now, I'm saying you guys are acting like this was some slam dunk in 2020 when it really wasn't. And it still isn't btw, sure we could use Askarov more now that Blackwood busted and Schmid regressed with Holtz stagnating and it could have possibly saved us next year's first on Markstrom (I think Fitz probably still makes that trade anyway) but there's still no guarantee he'd develop and play well here.it's bad enough to not recognize we needed a stud goalie prospect in 2020, but to say fitz made the right call even with the benefit of hindsight is really something else.
we needed bodies, so we drafted a guy 2 years away from playing. makes sense.How did he blow it? Objectively he crushed it. Askarov has played 2 NHL games.
We were a team that needed bodies.
Mercer 246, Holtz 110 and Muk 3 combined for 359 NHL games to Askarov's whopping 2.
Like one of my off board friends said it's almost like he wanted to draft someone else (Askarov) and was talked out of it and is now getting passive aggressive every chance he gets. Or perhaps he was the one banging the table for Holtz and feels embarrassed he's not living up to expectations. But the former is her theory, I just think because he can't trade his worthless ass his only recourse is to hope one of his public rants gets through eventually. Even loose lipped Fitz has to know if you did have a hope in hell of trading him, constantly dogging him in public isn't exactly upping his value. Unless of course he has no value to other teams to begin with.The tough love shown by Fitz on Holtz is pretty bizarre.
Plenty of players were dogging it this year, not just the 21 year old Swede. Weird.
Like one of my off board friends said it's almost like he wanted to draft someone else (Askarov) and was talked out of it and is now getting passive aggressive every chance he gets. But that's her theory, I just think because he can't trade his worthless ass his only recourse is to hope one of his public rants gets through eventually. Even loose lipped Fitz has to know if you did have a hope in hell of trading him, constantly dogging him in public isn't exactly upping his value. Unless of course he has no value to other teams to begin with.
Fitz behavior actually makes sense in my opinion... if the organization structure is "decision by committee". You might want to highlight when you were the minority in the process.Weird theory, and if actually true, unprofessional at best.
Pouting in public because you didn't get what you want? Can't see it.
It's not just in that press conference where Fitz singled out Holtz, it was last year's ending presser too, maybe even one other occasion. If last year was a one-off I could see arguing 'well he was asked about him' as a defense, but it's not the first time he's taken him to task publicly.