Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Saugus]

The only reason I'd be ok with signing Pesce is for the comedic potential of the inevitable Joe Pesci memes.

For example, Pesce talking about Luke and Nemec:

 

[JimEIV]

can we just have 1 thread where you post 43432897 nonsensical messages about how much you hate Nemec and Luke so it doesn't derail every single thread you post on?

I love Nemec and Luke...and I believe they are the keys to this teams success.

There just weren't ready for the roles they were thrown into last year and I think they still might not be to varying degrees.

 

[Comparison Ford]

10th, Holtz, and Casey for Ehlers and McGroarty.

now we’re talking. i would love a deal like this, not so sure winnipeg would though

 

[Better Call Sal]

Who are these people though?

Dan Powers is a part of the Empty Netters podcast. I'm not sure what his connections are on things, but they've had quite a few players on as guests so it's not just any generic hockey show. (Swayman, Eichel, Jarvis, Toffoli, Chelios, PK, etc.)

Sara Civian used to write for the Canes for the Athletic, so she's more connected I would say. Her vouching for him is a point in his favor. And as I mentioned earlier, he did call rumblings of Berube bringing Savard in on his staff a month before the announcement as well as called Keefe to us a few days before it was officially announced.

Definitely enough smoke to warrant a discussion.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I have no idea what the Devils are doing and I'm kinda scared to know what their plan is lmao

 

[Comparison Ford]

If there is an ounce of truth to the Devils looking a RHD there are going to be major changes to the defense.

especially with them moving Bahl out. excited to see what happens.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805274738689716594

That deal would be straight up crap, not gonna lie.

 

[New Jersey Devils]

I have no idea what the Devils are doing and I'm kinda scared to know what their plan is lmao

 

[bossram]

Paying the older guy for term and 2-2.5+ mil over Marino certainly is a choice… If it’s a short deal then fine. If it’s long this is stupid.

Pesce's not signing anywhere unless he's getting the bag. Likely 5-6 years at $6+M.

It will be a bad contract. The blueline version of the Palat deal. People jumped on the critics of the Palat deal, but they were right.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

I have no idea what the Devils are doing and I'm kinda scared to know what their plan is lmao

Yeah it feels like win now mode. I don't know if Fitz is getting heat from ownership or just growing impatient.

 

[Triumph]

I very much doubt Marino’s on the way out. Think them playing 4RD or Nemec being pushed out of the lineup is more likely.

Both of these are horrendous, horrendous ideas, so I doubt they will be doing either of them. RHDs on the left side doesn't work and Fitzgerald was GM when they were last tried here for any significant amount of time. Nemec belongs in the league and demonstrated that last season.

 

[Better Call Sal]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1769786359818908009

 

[Hisch13r]

Pesce's not signing anywhere unless he's getting the bag. Likely 5-6 years at $6+M.

It will be a bad contract. The blueline version of the Palat deal. People jumped on the critics of the Palat deal, but they were right.

I agree but if there was anyway to get an Orlov then fine but other than that count me the f*** out. I think 6 is lowballing it too. I think it’s at least 6.5

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Pesce's not signing anywhere unless he's getting the bag. Likely 5-6 years at $6+M.

It will be a bad contract. The blueline version of the Palat deal. People jumped on the critics of the Palat deal, but they were right.

The difference here is that we literally have zero players like Palat or anyone in the pipeline that plays like him. And how many guys in free agency play like him and won’t get their own bag?

With this, Marino is awfully similar and locked up at a decent number. And we have one of the best offensive D in franchise history and a future number 1 already in house on the right side.

I think it would be more puzzling than a Palat deal unless we somehow avoid giving him huge term. Or maybe they’re comfortable with him on the left side and see him as a Siegs upgrade? Who knows.

 

[Shakir ONeal]

Isn’t Slavin rumored to get 8x6.5? I’d like to think they could keep it in the 5s no matter the length of the deal

 

[Hisch13r]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1769786359818908009

Yeah he’s a perfectly good player who is going to be on a bad deal.

Isn’t Slavin rumored to get 8x6.5? I’d like to think they could keep it in the 5s no matter the length of the deal

I mean Severson also got 6.5x8. DailyFaceoff has Pesce projected at 6.7x6

 

[Comparison Ford]

is there any world where Marino plays left side? i don’t think it’s smart but if it’s on the bottom pair then maybe it works?

 

[bossram]

I agree but if there was anyway to get an Orlov then fine but other than that count me the f*** out. I think 6 is lowballing it too. I think it’s at least 6.5

I would be fine with an Orlov-type deal too, but that's not what's going to happen.

I agree on the price. What I said is probably the floor. $6x6 minimum is what I expect.

The difference here is that we literally have zero players like Palat or anyone in the pipeline that plays like him. And how many guys in free agency play like him and won’t get their own bag?

With this, Marino is awfully similar and locked up at a decent number. And we have one of the best offensive D in franchise history and a future number 1 already in house on the right side.

I think it would be more puzzling than a Palat deal unless we somehow avoid giving him huge term. Or maybe they’re comfortable with him on the left side and see him as a Siegs upgrade? Who knows.

"Worse than the Palat deal" is not exactly a ringing endorsement.

 

[Hisch13r]

The difference here is that we literally have zero players like Palat or anyone in the pipeline that plays like him. And how many guys in free agency play like him and won’t get their own bag?

With this, Marino is awfully similar and locked up at a decent number. And we have one of the best offensive D in franchise history and a future number 1 already in house on the right side.

I think it would be more puzzling than a Palat deal unless we somehow avoid giving him huge term. Or maybe they’re comfortable with him on the left side and see him as a Siegs upgrade? Who knows.

Overpaying for fit is how you get yourself in trouble and we got ourselves in trouble there. No reason to get yourself in even more trouble

 

[JimEIV]

Pesce's not signing anywhere unless he's getting the bag. Likely 5-6 years at $6+M.

It will be a bad contract. The blueline version of the Palat deal. People jumped on the critics of the Palat deal, but they were right.

That seems like an awfully high projection.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I agree but if there was anyway to get an Orlov then fine but other than that count me the f*** out. I think 6 is lowballing it too. I think it’s at least 6.5

Orlov is terrible unless you meant the deal he got from Carolina which I still wouldn't even like at that point

 

[JimEIV]

Overpaying for fit is how you get yourself in trouble and we got ourselves in trouble there. No reason to get yourself in even more trouble

You also want to give your new coach all the tools he needs to succeed.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I very much doubt Marino’s on the way out. Think them playing 4RD or Nemec being pushed out of the lineup is more likely.

Marino is almost certainly being traded away if this is actually happening

 

[New Jersey Devils]

AFP projects Pesce to get around $6.2M for 5 years. IIRC they were pretty close on Timo's contract.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I really don't care about contracts tbh and don't get why some get so hung up on it.