Confirmed with Link: Devils acquire Vitek Vanecek and 46th Overall pick from WSH for 37th Overall pick and 70th Overall pick
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I don't think there really is one. I think it's possible he ends up LTIRetired
That Campbell deal is going to be awful. We should stay the f*** out of that. Kuemper's an interesting one but the eye concerns me and he'll probably get more term than I'd like. Ride this out for a year. See if either can take charge. If not reevaluate in a year. Maybe trade for Lehner at some point. Don't commit to a deal with a decently good chance of blowing up in your face.
BananaGenetics
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Why dump Blackwood? Dont we want to see finally if hes healthy and ready to get back to his earlier success?
At least wait until hes shown what he can this season. Maybe move him after that or even in-season.
But for now.. I think he can bounce back
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DevilDog
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Pretty much the best possible outcome considering the market. Get at worst league average goaltending with potential upside without paying a lot in assets or salary commitments.
NJDevs26
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I wouldn't be content going into the season with them as a tandem, but it's probably about the best outcome possible without committing money/term to Campbell or Kuemper, both of which make me nervous.
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I've been hearing that for going on 3 years with him. Its always something with this guy.
as @Bleedred says, just move on.
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Yeah, I feel like people are memory holing how we signed Schneider to 7 year deal, he had 1 great season under that deal and then 4 seasons where he actively hurt the team by being broken/terrible until he was mercifully bought him out before the 2020-21 season.
There are a bunch of teams looking for goalies and 3 imperfect UFAs, then some garbage.
Seriously these are the remaining available goalies from the Athletic UFA list after the top 3: Holtby, Comrie, Greiss and Jones.
That’s it. The other 3 guys have already signed (Fleury, DeSmith & Wedgewood).
And people act like not only can we assume it’s easy to sign one the top 3 UFA goalies, we can also choose between them. Some people were suggesting we sign two of them and trade Blackwood. I get that this is a time for UFA dreams and pretending that signing them is always wonderful but geez.
After that it’s unclear what goalies are still available for trade.
We don’t know which extra goalie San Jose ends up trading, Ottawa seems pretty determined that the extra goalie they move is a Matt Murray body dump, not sure at all if Gibson gets moved and I don’t know about any others. (Varlamov? I’m skeptical he gets moved too.)
Sakic went with Georgiev and people are complaining about how we settled. Everyone will be settling, there aren’t any particularly appealing goalie solutions available to teams who need one or want to upgrade.
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MachoDiablo
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What's not to like about this trade? We are not competing for a Cup next year and potential upside is great. It takes longer for a goalies game to mature, usually mid 20's so this lines up well with low risk.
I don't really think there's much more upside here than what he's shown but he's a goalie so who knows. If he maintains the level he's played at or only slightly better it's a massive boost compared to what we were running out this year.
MauDevils
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Between this and Ruff, Fitzgerald isn't making good choices.
So basically we're still in the same spot as last year.
So basically we're still in the same spot as last year.
NJDevs26
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Nah this is different...Ruff is settling for the sake of settling with actual better options out there. This is settling because there really is no better option out there unless you want to get into a bidding war for Kuemper (and his own team who won a Stanley Cup is saying nah, we're good here) and pray he doesn't break down.
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please explain how spending basically only a 3rd round pick on a league average goalie puts us in the "same spot as last year"?
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Well it hasn't been quite 3, but this will be the third year.
As alarming as his last 2 years in the NHL have been (.893% in his last 55 games now, that's taking away his first 5 or 6 games of 20-21 where he was like a .940%-something) his AHL career was not at all promising.
I remember the debate at the time after his 17-18 AHL season was that there's not a long list of goalies who had that kind of a season in the AHL that went on to be successful at the NHL level.
I wasn't arguing it at the time. In fact, I didn't really have an opinion one way or the other. I just remember being an onlooker to the arguments.
I'm afraid if he has a decent or good season then we're handcuffed to him for 3 more years after this. I could see them being convinced he's fixed and that these last two seasons were merely injury/covid related and they never happened.
I'm kind of on team who cares about the cap right now just like you are, but I also don't want to see guys like Zacha on our cap for $4 million + a year or Blackwood for $3 million or more a year. I don't care what either of them get for this year, but I don't want either (certainly not at those salaries) for 2023-2024 and beyond.
Blackwood's qualifying offer is $3 million next year and that's why I keep throwing that number out there.
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I'd be content with that tandem if I wanted to challenge for top pick in next years draft
MauDevils
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Bringing in a crappy goalie doesn't solve our goalie issues. .908 is league average? This is no better than Blackwood.
Yes, .908 is league average. It's not 2015 anymore. The Avs just won the Cup, losing only 4 games, with a .903 SV%.
Clam Jensen
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Blackwood has been under .900 the past 2 years combined.
Vanacek was top 10 in the league in high-danger SV% at 5 on 5 last year
LAstly, yes .908 is probably league average overall.
yes, it is.
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I think he can bounce back too.
I don't think he will though.
To a point he may, but I am an atheist when it comes to believing in him as our goalie of the future anymore.
I think he has a better chance than Cory did after his first couple of poor years, but that's only based on the fact that he's 25 years old and 32 years old.
At the same time, I can never see this guy being as good as the pre-decline Cory. The last couple of years he's been every bit as bad as the Cory Schneider of his 30's and even worse than 41 year old Brodeur. The only other thing he has going for him is that he's only been bad 55 games (Which is almost HALF of his NHL career to date) but not 120 games like Cory by the time we finally moved on.
Him never having been as good as Cory pre decline doesn't mean there's a less of a chance of him not being good ever again, my point is that he's probably gonna be an average goalie at the very best.
If he toss him next offseason he'll probably be in the league another few years regardless, because the NHL LOVES to recycle goalies for years. He can have 3-4 more bad years and probably get one more year out of his NHL career. The Blue Jackets keep bringing back Korpisalo who's had one good season in 7 years (his rookie year) in the NHL and guys like Martin Jones still get signed. Craig Anderson got brought back again, etc.
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