Devils 2020-21 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part XIV

[Oneiro]

Via Cordell:

"Since the beginning of last season, 24 goaltenders have appeared in at least 40 games. Blackwood sits 2/24 in 5v5 save percentage – behind only Tuukka Rask – and 1/24 in high-danger save percentage. "

 

[Blender]

Via Cordell:

"Since the beginning of last season, 24 goaltenders have appeared in at least 40 games. Blackwood sits 2/24 in 5v5 save percentage – behind only Tuukka Rask – and 1/24 in high-danger save percentage. "

He's no Carter Hart though.

 

[NJ Fan 12]

Few days ago Finnish NHL journalist Tommi Seppälä asked Kapanen, why this visa issue has taken so long. Kapanen said that you should ask that about US authorities. So it seems, that the problem is on the US end.

Yllättävään ongelmaan törmännyt Kasperi Kapanen saa uuden tilaisuuden tutussa seurassa: "Joka päivä vaaditaan maksimitehoja" (in Finnish)

Since he grew up in New Jersey, I can't help thinking that has something to do with it.

 

[Oneiro]

You put the Cordell stat I quoted together with this (bottom graphic):


Small sample sizes obviously, but for me, the bottom line is that if we put together a team defense that limits high danger chances and creates clarity for Mac, he's going to reward us in the same manner Rask has with the Bruins. It's an obvious idea, just expressed statistically - a decent defense and decent goalie will create a positive feedback loop. It worked for 20 years here and it's what worked for BOS.

The difference is those teams never had the potential center depth we might have here. Still: it's early and we've only played one team so don't want to get ahead of myself. But as a wise dude once said, "This is the way."

 

[Hisch13r]

Few days ago Finnish NHL journalist Tommi Seppälä asked Kapanen, why this visa issue has taken so long. Kapanen said that you should ask that about US authorities. So it seems, that the problem is on the US end.

Yllättävään ongelmaan törmännyt Kasperi Kapanen saa uuden tilaisuuden tutussa seurassa: "Joka päivä vaaditaan maksimitehoja" (in Finnish)

Well f***

 

[Guttersniped]

So what’s the news on Nico’s leg and when he be back on the ice?
Why is there no more information on this by the Devils? Are they afraid of rising prosthesis prices if they already now communicate he actually does needs a wooden leg?
Seriously, what’s up?

If it’s not a break where you can look at an X-Ray they often have to go by how it feels and how stable it is. The lack of info from the team may be be due the nature of the injury itself rather then the team knowing all sorts of things they’re keeping secret.

I posted an article about Hall’s injury. Doctors didn’t know what was wrong with Hall’s knee until they performed surgery on it. They performed surgery on because it never got better after months of rehab. They are being a bit weirdly secretive about this, but I assume they actually don’t know when Nico will be back on the ice. The injury happened early December.

I didn’t see the scrimmage where Matt Laughlin said it wasn’t a high ankle sprain. Maybe it is something else or maybe Matt doesn’t know what high ankle sprains are. If they said internally it’s a ligament tear, then that’s what a high ankle sprain is, it’s just referring to position of the injury. It’s hard to come up with a different injury from someone falling on a guy’s leg skating that requires a boot and no surgery.

Then again, I’m not a health care professional or a hockey player and I haven’t worked in either field. I know people who have had this injury but this post still has some real Dr Internet energy. (I’m also 50% on Laughlin being helpful here but that’s probably just me being unfair, he just comes across a little dopey to me at times.)

 

[Sheros expletives]

If it’s not a break where you can look at an X-Ray they often have to go by how it feels and how stable it is. The lack of info from the team may be be due the nature of the injury itself rather then the team knowing all sorts of things they’re keeping secret.

I posted an article about Hall’s injury. Doctors didn’t know what was wrong with Hall’s knee until they performed surgery on it. They performed surgery on because it never got better after months of rehab. They are being a bit weirdly secretive about this, but I assume they actually don’t know when Nico will be back on the ice. The injury happened early December.

I didn’t see the scrimmage where Matt Laughlin said it wasn’t a high ankle sprain. Maybe it is something else or maybe Matt doesn’t know what high ankle sprains are. If they said internally it’s a ligament tear, then that’s what a high ankle sprain is, it’s just referring to position of the injury. It’s hard to come up with a different injury from someone falling on a guy’s leg skating that requires a boot and no surgery.

Then again, I’m not a health care professional or a hockey player and I haven’t worked in either field. I know people who have had this injury but this post still has some real Dr Internet energy. (I’m also 50% on Laughlin being helpful here but that’s probably just me being unfair, he just comes across a little dopey to me at times.)

Iirc he said it was a broken bone in the foot.

 

[Darkauron]

I dont think he said it was a broken anything. Just that it was some form of a high ankle injury

 

[TorontoMedia]

He almost certainly thought he didn't have as much time as he did, you can't always take a peek at the clock when you're racing up ice.

I'm glad i was able to help out with getting the main board thread locked lol. Really hope the kid pots one tonight, Ranger fans are salty that hes had 2 good games. Would be hilarious to see them crumble tonight

 

[Emperoreddy]

We have never gotten good info on what the actual injury was, but if it was a break they most likely would have a firmer time table.

The high ankle sprain was pure speculation from bad twitter sources and people trying to play doctor with really limited info.

 

[Edmonton East]

If it’s not a break where you can look at an X-Ray they often have to go by how it feels and how stable it is. The lack of info from the team may be be due the nature of the injury itself rather then the team knowing all sorts of things they’re keeping secret.

....no.

X-ray -> no break -> MRI

Anyway, something tells me the coach who won't give out line combos an hour before a game isn't going to be forthcoming with injury details. But if we want to act as if they would disclose a timetable or injury and just are unsure, generally:

• Ankle injuries have very predictable timelines. Especially for young athletes. But very susceptible to re-injury (and very difficult to predict)
• Mid foot fractures/lisfranc are a nightmare to estimate recovery for. Usually player comes back and is either ok...or they still have pain and have to go for surgery. Kind of trial and error approach.
• Knees/back - not relevant for Nico, but similar to directly above

TL;DR if you think the org would give a timetable if they knew one, then I highly doubt it's an ankle injury.

 

[MVP Zacha]

So what’s the news on Nico’s leg and when he be back on the ice?
Why is there no more information on this by the Devils? Are they afraid of rising prosthesis prices if they already now communicate he actually does needs a wooden leg?
Seriously, what’s up?

Apparently Nico left his leg in Switzerland and they are having trouble getting a visa for his leg.

 

[thethinglonger]

I don't know how all this works, is that more on the US or Finnish end? If it was the Finnish end then maybe it'll only be an issue for Vatanen and not Bratt. If it's the US then we could be waiting a while for both Bratt and Vatanen

As someone who's done preliminary work in immigration law, I can tell you that the visa process is exceedingly long on the US end. There are scenarios where individual cases can be expedited through the system, but a P-1A Athlete visa can take as long as 3 to 6 months to fully process. I don't think that's going to be the situation here, but these things take forever.

 

[devilsfan35]

Can we trade for homeboy tony deangelo

 

[SKNJD9]

Can we trade for homeboy tony deangelo

No thanks

 

[Darkauron]

Can we trade for homeboy tony deangelo

I dont want anything to do with him and his racist self and views. No thanks.

 

[SKNJD9]

I dont want anything to do with him and his racist self and views. No thanks.

No to mention he's a dog **** d-man too

 

[My3Sons]

....no.

X-ray -> no break -> MRI

Anyway, something tells me the coach who won't give out line combos an hour before a game isn't going to be forthcoming with injury details. But if we want to act as if they would disclose a timetable or injury and just are unsure, generally:

• Ankle injuries have very predictable timelines. Especially for young athletes. But very susceptible to re-injury (and very difficult to predict) i
• Mid foot fractures/lisfranc are a nightmare to estimate recovery for. Usually player comes back and is either ok...or they still have pain and have to go for surgery. Kind of trial and error approach.
• Knees/back - not relevant for Nico, but similar to directly above

TL;DR if you think the org would give a timetable if they knew one, then I highly doubt it's an ankle injury.

It's that second scenario that's troublesome. The trial and error approach is typically a drawn out process. Hopefully Nico really doesn't need a surgery and is getting better and they are just being quiet about it. Ugh.

 

[None Shall Pass]

Can we trade for homeboy tony deangelo

Nah. We finally have right-wing depth.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Can we trade for homeboy tony deangelo

I dont think we need another RHD after signing Vatanen but it is interesting to note DeAngelo had a career year last season coached by Lindy Ruff, whom was in charge of Rangers defenseman.

It could be interesting to reunite DeAngelo with Ruff again. I would be down for a Butcher for DeAngelo swap.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I want no part of that jerkoff on this team. No thanks.

 

[SKNJD9]

From Friedman 31 thoughts.

3. Apparently, New Jersey’s Tom Fitzgerald has a unique contract. He signed a long-term extension last year, but, when promoted to the GM chair last summer, was given a one-year contract for that specific position. We’ll see how that plays out. It’s early, but the Devils played Boston hard in taking three out of a possible four points in their season opener. Could have implications for them or possibly even Pittsburgh, where Fitzgerald worked before.

 

[Shakir ONeal]

From Friedman 31 thoughts.

3. Apparently, New Jersey’s Tom Fitzgerald has a unique contract. He signed a long-term extension last year, but, when promoted to the GM chair last summer, was given a one-year contract for that specific position. We’ll see how that plays out. It’s early, but the Devils played Boston hard in taking three out of a possible four points in their season opener. Could have implications for them or possibly even Pittsburgh, where Fitzgerald worked before.

yikes I don’t really like that

 

[NJDevs26]

WTF...I guess now the owners are going the other way with a management contract since they had to fire Shero barely a year into a long-term extension. Now I wonder about Lindy's deal too

Has Shero even said word one since last year? It's like he's been in seclusion for twelve months.

 

[Emperoreddy]

yikes I don’t really like that

Ehh I wouldn't be concerned. They will extend him as long as they want to keep him.

Hard to see him wanting to go start a Pitt rebuild