Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[David Suzuki]

A top 4 D.
Plus Slaf.

The leafs got matthews and marner in their tank years.

and they’ve been a model of success ever since

 

[BaseballCoach]

I thought this organization might learn something from the KK vs Brady T debacle, but no, they keep repeating the same mistakes, and failing strategy,

Once again they do not take the BPA, they take an inferior player just because he plays the position that they lack, and have an urgent need for,

Once again missing out on high end, top end talent,

Pathetic

If Reinbacher was what they wanted, why wouldn't they trade down to at least #7 or #8?

He probably still would have been there at #10

This pick tells me that the organization is content and happy with the current wingers situation, seeing as they didn't have any need for Michkov,

I can't believe the prize for a season wasted is Reinbacher

Would have been better off trading the pick for Keller or PLD

Keller I would have done, but Arzona probably wants more.

PLD no way.

The problem with Michkov is that there are clearly question marks surrounding him for even a team that is ok with drafting Russians to pass on hiim in favour of a defenceman.

If after the interview, after a lot of discussion, the club projects the chance of something going wrong with Michkov is for example 30%, then I totally get taking another player they liked a lot rather than run the risk of literally getting nothing.

Also, Michkov does not appear to be an elite skater, unlike a Patrick Kane, and considerably lighter than Kane at the same age. Even with good sniping and offensive skills, he might project as just DeBrincat-plus, or Caufield, who is shorter but heavier and has an amazing compete level.

For now, I have come around to accepting this is who we drafted, and that there are reasons for the pick that make some sense. Of course it is subjective and Ryan Leonard for example might be a glue forward that gets us over the top one day, but I'm ok with drafting a guy who they think is now our very best RD prospect and has size and skating ability. He may well be a RH version of Guhle with a better shot and puck movement.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think he f***ed up.

You mean with Slaf or last night? Sorry I'm confusing the many discussions in the many threads here.

 

[Ozmodiar]

not sure where this argument is heading because so far they don’t have much to show in their contending years

They didn’t win anything with those 2 players alone?? lol

The point is they were lucky enough to hit on 2 star players. Also, with the marner pick, they didn’t go safe / “high floor” route. They had #4 and went for talent. If they don’t like the makeup of their team, they can be traded and both would get a huge haul. They still hold 2 mega assets.

Habs got 2 players who are 1st/2nd liners.

 

[MasterD]

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If he's doing that prima donna shit, they should come out and say it. Make it known.

We'd do the same if we could.

Jagr did it way back. Plenty of guys pulled moves to change teams recently.

The draft system kind of works for teams, but sucks for players. Would you like getting your job through a draft and having no say where you had to move to go to work and who you work for?

He's a Flyers now, let's enjoy Reinbacher.

 

[Adam Michaels]

You mean with Slaf or last night? Sorry I'm confusing the many discussions in the many threads here.

Chaos all around us in every thread tends to do this to all of us.

 

[Frank Drebin]

@Runner77 , you think you could David Reinbacher my avatar? Put the kids face and name in there? Or anyone else who could do a quick pshop?

 

[BenchBrawl]

We'd do the same if we could.

Jagr did it way back. Plenty of guys pulled moves to change teams recently.

The draft system kind of works for teams, but sucks for players. Would you like getting your job through a draft and having no say where you had to move to go to work and who you work for?

He's a Flyers now, let's enjoy Reinbacher.

They should say it regardless instead of taking the heat for nothing. Why protect players doing those moves? Call them out.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I'm horrible with player comparisons outside of the Habs org tbh. I don't think that's a bad comp though stylisitically. Hedman was seen as quite the phenom at the draft where many thought he should've gone ahead of Tavares(?) but yeah not as dynamic but similar style from what I know.

A couple months or so ago, I did quick and dirty looks on the 'big 5' (except Bedard cuz I didn't have the heart to know what I was missing) and besides Carlsson they all seemed so bloody question mark-y to me tbh. I'm pretty biased towards getting a flashy forward so I often don't look at D men. I figured I'd look at Reinbacher and I just couldn't help but like so much of his game. He just does a lot of things right that will make a team better. Again, people are allergic to 'safe' but when you see a guy who you just can't imagine him not being a top 4, that's hard to ignore.

I really tried to acknowledge my needs bias (I do kind of have it) and re-watch him and I did see some things here and there but they were just so minor. And I really think there's untapped offensive potential but again, he had Josi like numbers so it's not like some kind of big gamble-y question mark. He produced. He just does it in a kind of vanilla-ish way but in a way you just can't help but see translating to the bigs. Smart solid passing and a damn good/if not quite elite shot.

If people want to be pissed because they're wholly convinced Michkov is a can't miss stud, that's completely fine to me. But for people who think we just got a bum with limited upside, I think they're going to be proven wrong almost 100%. He just ticks way too many boxes.

I hadn’t looked at him at all before the draft. I figured we were going with a forward. Looking at him now I can see why they took him. If you subtract the Mich situation (that’s a whole other story) then it does make sense. Him paired with Hutson for example should work really well and he solidifies a good young blueline group. So happy about that.

But… I get why people are pissed. I’m pissed. We need scoring badly and this was the year of the forward. People are going to vent - understandably so.

But yeah, this guy will very likely anchor our blueline for years to come and Lane Hutson will probably benefit more than anyone from this move.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You mean with Slaf or last night? Sorry I'm confusing the many discussions in the many threads here.

I’d have taken Mich. I think we’ll regret it. Not because I think RB is a bad pick but because of opportunity cost. I’d have preferred to take the risk.

Slaf wasn’t a screw up. Bad draft year. It was him or Wright and I don’t see Wright being any better so far.

 

[InglewoodJack]

I like the pick. At this point we’ve got to have one of the best defenseman prospect pools in the league? Couple of of those guys should hit.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I’d have taken Mich.

Slaf wasn’t a screw up. Bad draft year. It was him or Wright and I don’t see Wright being any better so far.

Agreed on both counts.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

They should say it regardless instead of taking the heat for nothing. Why protect players doing those moves? Call them out.

They can't do that. They have to act with class. Even not so classy Bergevin wouldn't do that.

 

[First Line]

and they’ve been a model of success ever since

They have, in the regular season.
No one in this thread is talking about building a Cup winning team , what the masses want is a superstar to fill seats and give a show.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Keller I would have done, but Arzona probably wants more.

PLD no way.

The problem with Michkov is that there are clearly question marks surrounding him for even a team that is ok with drafting Russians to pass on hiim in favour of a defenceman.

If after the interview, after a lot of discussion, the club projects the chance of something going wrong with Michkov is for example 30%, then K totally get taking another polayer they liked a lot rather than run the risk of literally getting nothing.

Also, Michkov does not appear to be an elite skater, unlike a Patrick Kane, and considerably lighter than Kane at the same age. Even with good sniping and offensive skills, he might project as just DeBrincat-plus, or Caufield, who is shorter but heavier and has as amazing compete level.

For now, I have come around to accepting this is who we drafted, and that there are reasons for the pick that make some sense. Of course it is subjective and Ryan Leonar for example might be a glue forward that gets us over the top one day, but I'm ok with drafting a guy who they think is now our very best RD prospect and has size and skating ability. He may well be a RH version of Guhle with a better shot and speed.

Geez I hope so. Guhle clocked in at like one of the 5 or 10 fastest skaters this year. Dude has serious wheels. I'm gonna love watching both of them together for the next decade plus

 

[David Suzuki]

They have, in the regular season.
No one in this thread is talking about building a Cup winning team , what the masses want is a superstar to fill seats and give a show.

people just want molson to make more money I get it. I’d take a boring team and empty rinks if it means playoff success.

 

[Barriwhite]

I like the pick. At this point we’ve got to have one of the best defenseman prospect pools in the league? Couple of of those guys should hit.

Let’s hope these are not the ones we’ll inevitably trade to improve our scoring power up front…

 

[Kaladin]

Glad we used a 5th overall pick to benefit our second round pick last year. Seems like a good use of resources…

I’m only half serious. Obviously Hutson is a much better player than his draft position. I’m generally not a fan of picking a player purely based on how it would impact existing players in the system though. The whole Leonard would be a good fit in the Suzuki caufield line is another example. Pick the best player available and figure the rest out later.

I’m going to stop harping on about this though. Michkov will come in three years and likely be a star but that’s out of our hands now. As a Habs fan, fingers crossed Reinbacher develops into at least a top 2 D and not just a top 4 D which is his floor. Wish we hired Briere instead of Hughes though.

But yeah, this guy will very likely anchor our blueline for years to come and Lane Hutson will probably benefit more than anyone from this move.

 

[Conflicted Habs fan]

The Austrification of the Montreal Canadiens has begun!

 

[Vachon23]

Didn’t know he works with Boutiller, that guy is a sonority in defensemen development. Had a big word to say in Thomas Chabot development back then in SJ

 

[Adam Michaels]

I don't think this is a safe pick. A lot of people are calling it a safe pick. I think this is a gutsy pick because they didn't go with the consensus.

I also want to say that this management team has already shown that almost all of their moves they've made were initially met with skepticism and in some cases dejection. But in hindsight, look like they made the right move that proved dividennds.

- They hired MSL. He never coached in the pros. He's coming from Pee-Wee hockey straight to the NHL.
- They picked Slaf 1st OA when a lot of people thought Wright was the guy. Not everyone was sold on Slaf. Some still aren't.
- They traded away Romanov and then subsequently acquired Dach. This move was met with a lot of negativity. Trading a stud in Romanov and acquiring an underwhelming Dach.
- They traded Petry & Poehling for Matheson. A lof of people were not sold on Matheson.

I put taking Reinbacher at 5th as one of those kinds of gutsy moves that is initially disliked but will eventually work out real well for the team.

I'll even add trading 31st and 37th for Newhook, who like Dach, seems like an underwhelming acquisition, but I also think he will work out and fans will enjoy him.

 

[Colezuki]

I will say, I randomly did catch a Austria game at the WJC this year and did think that Reinbacher was impressive. Excited to see him there this year

I know he said Austria but does his contract let him play in Laval? Could we do a development path like Jiricek and Nemec? send him to Laval have Nicholas work with him and then WJC

 

[Adam Michaels]

Didn’t know he works with Boutiller, that guy is a sonority in defensemen development. Had a big word to say in Thomas Chabot development back then in SJ

Here is Eric Faille, who played with Reinbacher the last two years, and he wants to say how much this kid is special. He watched a shy kid come in and become their go-to guy at 18 years old. Compares him to Josi, who also played in the same league at 18 (I brought up the Reinbacher stats at 18 vs. Josi stats at 18 in the same league earlier in the thread).

 

[David Suzuki]

since austria got relegated can he get loaned to germany for the world juniors? Basically the same country anyway.

 

[InglewoodJack]

Let’s hope these are not the ones we’ll inevitably trade to improve our scoring power up front…

When someone said he’s projected to be like McDonnagh, what they really meant was that he’s going to peak as the key piece of a deal for this generation’s Scotty Gomez.