Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Should also put an end to the idea that we drafted for need instead of BPA.
We definitely drafted the BPA our D is stacked even without Reinbacher. He's a right handed shot on top of that which is something we needed too. Just imagine the reaction if Hughes would have traded both our first rounders for Gauthier and Newhook. People would have been pissed off at that.
 
We went for the massive upside ainec
I don’t see a #2 D that doesn’t run the PP as a “massive upside”.

He can be a huge contributor on multiple sides of the game but that still isn’t massive upside.

Btw, he is a safe pick because of his floor (which is a serviceable NHL D) but for some reason you don’t like it when people say that. It’s one of his positives.
 
Not a reach by any means.

In more than 95% of all draft, a defenseman is at least picked top 5. (Most of the time its higher and sometimes its 2 dman or more in the top 5.)

Its not a reach by any mean that the best dman of 2023 has been picked 5. Heck, i would even argue he could have been picked 4 above Smith and it still would not have been a reach.

Also disagree with the safe pick notion. We went for the massive upside ainec. Top pair RD are the most coveted assets after 1C.
I feel soooo many Habs fans downplay DR. The kid was a STUD at the WJC. Even against the top teams he was a standout. Habs fans need to realize that we have a future pillar with this kid
 
I don’t see a #2 D that doesn’t run the PP as a “massive upside”.

He can be a huge contributor on multiple sides of the game but that still isn’t massive upside.

Btw, he is a safe pick because of his floor (which is a serviceable NHL D) but for some reason you don’t like it when people say that. It’s one of his positives.
Finding a minute munching top pairing stud is massive upside on ANY cup winning team.


How many people complained about losing McDonaugh as we saw him develop and win championships? And DR , imo, has even higher offensive upside. This was a great pick

When is going to be a top pair RD, two-way, with great transition, great skating, great defensive IQ and leadership. Everyone will understand why Habs select him #5 and turn down offer's for the 5th selection!

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I don’t see a #2 D that doesn’t run the PP as a “massive upside”.

He can be a huge contributor on multiple sides of the game but that still isn’t massive upside.

Btw, he is a safe pick because of his floor (which is a serviceable NHL D) but for some reason you don’t like it when people say that. It’s one of his positives.
Semantics really. Top pairing RDs are nothing to sneeze at.

We often conflate upside with offensive production. McDo like upside is pretty massive. Love what Mailloux is doing but his defensive potential isn’t exactly awe inspiring.

Not many junior eligible Ds can eat minutes like he does in Men’s leagues. It really can’t be overstated. He’d be an absolute wall defensively in the OHL. How good he is at puck retrieval in the NL is pretty special. If you want to contend, those type D are crucial and can make an enormous impact on your team’s possession numbers and transition game.

His offensive upside is a question mark but it really will be the icing on the cake. You’d be hard pressed to find a team for him to play on than the one he’s on now, to be a worse showcase of his offense.

He’s not super flashy but he can rush the puck well, make efficient passes and activate offensively in the O zone. He’s got a decent shot too. I think his offensive floor and ceiling are better than many think. Even if his production is at the lower end I can’t help but think he can impact our offense positively.

Just because he has a high floor doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a high ceiling.
 
I don’t see a #2 D that doesn’t run the PP as a “massive upside”.

He can be a huge contributor on multiple sides of the game but that still isn’t massive upside.

Btw, he is a safe pick because of his floor (which is a serviceable NHL D) but for some reason you don’t like it when people say that. It’s one of his positives.
What’s the difference between being a “huge contributor” and having “massive upside” exactly?

Massive > huge???
 
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Finding a minute munching top pairing stud is massive upside on ANY cup winning team.


How many people complained about losing McDonaugh as we saw him develop and win championships? And DR , imo, has even higher offensive upside. This was a great pick



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He will probably be an Adam Larsson 2.0, sure thats a good minute muncher D who's great defensively but it's nothing that will put us over the edge... as opposed to Michkov who has the potential to be a superstar... wtv annoyed just thinking about it
 
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He will probably be an Adam Larsson 2.0, sure thats a good minute muncher D who's great defensively but it's nothing that will put us over the edge... as opposed to Michkov who has the potential to be a superstar... wtv annoyed just thinking about it
Personally I see more Ryan suter and I believe he will have more offensive upside. Michkov SOUNDS nice, but huge red flag around attitude. Imagine drafting a kid like that only for him to pull a Gauthier
 
I don’t see a #2 D that doesn’t run the PP as a “massive upside”.

He can be a huge contributor on multiple sides of the game but that still isn’t massive upside.

Btw, he is a safe pick because of his floor (which is a serviceable NHL D) but for some reason you don’t like it when people say that. It’s one of his positives.
What about a #1D that doesn't quarterback the PP? Because that's probably the better definition of Reinbacher. For some a #1 has to also be the guy that quarterbacks a PP, but under that definition guys like Pietrangelo wouldn't be a #1.

And for the record he wasn't picked because of his floor he was picked because his ceiling is very very high because he has all the tools to be a stud, but the question mark is whether he can put all those tools together effectively.
 
What about a #1D that doesn't quarterback the PP? Because that's probably the better definition of Reinbacher. For some a #1 has to also be the guy that quarterbacks a PP, but under that definition guys like Pietrangelo wouldn't be a #1.

And for the record he wasn't picked because of his floor he was picked because his ceiling is very very high because he has all the tools to be a stud, but the question mark is whether he can put all those tools together effectively.
Slavin is another #1 that doesn’t QB the PP. It’s not a prerequisite anymore, especially in Montreal where guys like Hutson and Mailloux are waiting in the wings.
 
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What about a #1D that doesn't quarterback the PP? Because that's probably the better definition of Reinbacher. For some a #1 has to also be the guy that quarterbacks a PP, but under that definition guys like Pietrangelo wouldn't be a #1.

And for the record he wasn't picked because of his floor he was picked because his ceiling is very very high because he has all the tools to be a stud, but the question mark is whether he can put all those tools together effectively.

Exactly. Reinbacher is perfectly able to play on both special teams if needed but he's the type of player you want on the ice at even strength for as much as possible. His best quality is his transition game, turning defense into offense. He's very mobile for a big guy, he's high IQ, has excellent vision and plays very good and accurate outlet or stretch passes. That's nice to have on special teams as well but where it really moves the needle, where it really helps to create advantage, create quality chances is even strength hockey.
 
Is he going to school there right now?
As far as I know there is nothing preventing him from coming over now except an agreement between Kloten and the Habs. But 2 guys that follow the Swiss League are saying this morning rumours going around that Habs are tired of the piss poor team play and are bringing him over to North America early.
 
As far as I know there is nothing preventing him from coming over now except an agreement between Kloten and the Habs. But 2 guys that follow the Swiss League are saying this morning rumours going around that Habs are tired of the piss poor team play and are bringing him over to North America early.
If it’s anyway possible, I’d do it immediately. It’s unfortunate things turned out the way they did this year in Kloten.
 
As far as I know there is nothing preventing him from coming over now except an agreement between Kloten and the Habs. But 2 guys that follow the Swiss League are saying this morning rumours going around that Habs are tired of the piss poor team play and are bringing him over to North America early.
Laval could do with a RD with Keeper out for 3 months and Lindstrom being claimed. Mailloux is the only RHD they have left.
 
If it’s anyway possible, I’d do it immediately. It’s unfortunate things turned out the way they did this year in Kloten.
They can recall him at any point as per the agreement NHL has with the European leagues.

Literally its up to the Habs. With the situation in Laval and the position the team is in now, adding Reinbacher would be a MAJOR add for them and great for Reinbacher.
 
Playing his D+1 season on a good Kloten team was definitely my preference, but they're doing so bad that I can see the logic in getting Reinbacher in a better environment. They can always make room for him in Laval. Doing it mid season like that kinda sucks though, it's not ideal development wise.
 
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Would make sense to get him out of Kloten ASAP. Hughes talked about not having his young players on the Habs be in a toxic losing environment, don't see why it wouldn't extend to their top prospect as well.
 
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