LaP
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I don't think that's possible. There's probably some rounding at play. Like he was 6'2'' ¼ at draft which was rounded to 6'2 and he is 6'2 ½ at camp which is rounded to 6'3
Prospect Info: David Reinbacher
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13 pounds in 2 months is a bit much for my taste but he is a teenager afterall. Curious about the .75 inch he gained, sounds like soles but if its real its good news.
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Appreciate it. Indeed it's impossible to know what goes through anyone's head but i believe, although its more a rule of thumb, when you are a 1st overall talent in any pro sport, you indeed have talent but these guy also probably have ''talented'' mind.
I like Engels twitter video with Reinbacher wheelings. Skating is impressive.
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KevSkillz4
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If that's really that, it's a great news. But very good aswell on draft day.
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Hindsight talking. I bet if someone pushes for Roy to make the team next month, some will argue "don't rush him".
I don't think they weighed him on draft day.
By the way .75 inches is about 4-5 pounds right there.
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I mean, let alone the fact that Roy is not Suzuki, and nowhere near in the same spot Suzuki was at the same age... Context matters, a lot. Suzuki was as close to NHL ready as you get when he was Roys age, Roy is not. Are they patient with him? Yes. Is it better than dropping him in the NHL last year? Yes. Is it optimal? Probably not.
Im all for giving players a honest chance, Roy proved enough to get this shot, but proof should be served quickly and overwhelmingly. Not a 3 months riding the pine show-me attempt.
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No, I've had a consistent position for over a decade.
And Roy probably needs a season in the AHL. Besides, it doesn't matter how well Roy plays in camp, he's not getting Newhook 's spot or Gallagher's spot.
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Timothée is like 6 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter...
And he is still growing. Could become as big as Seider.
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Perhaps unless in cases of say Slaf vs say Wright. So with Wright he's been tabbed for a couple years as a possible or likely 1st OA so I'm sure he was well coached up on all things on and off the ice since like a product if you invest the money in him it could yield a very nice return in the Millions depending of course on how it goes.
Whereas Slaf, not the player but as more of a late riser so maybe not as much goes into a player like that to get them ready for all the coming challenges that these kids have to go through like dealing with the press, fans, money, social media, etc...
As a big prospect fan for over 20 years I've put a lot of time into thinking about these kind of things which is why I was always against rushing kids to the NHL when they aren't ready, not because I fear it would ruin them, as I don't believe that happens in most cases but that it can cause a lot of problems for said player that can make it very difficult to get back on track.
Over the years here you see some posters will say the players are just born with it or not, it's all on how bad they want it but that's just BS at least to some degree as there are a number of factors involved that most don't think about or even know about unless they played at a legit level or spend a lot of time reading/thinking/talking prospects.
Granted many players screw themselves because they don't want to put the work in, they don't take it serious enough or nightlife gets in the way, lots of factors there too of course. You hope you are drafting a Gallagher/RHP type that no matter their size they just go out there and work hard. Work on what they need to do in order to get to the next level.
Agreed, no use being in Montreal to ride the pine for 54 minutes per game, or worse to sit in the Galerie de Presse.
But -- and this just an example and an assumption, not a prediction -- Roy beats out Ylonen for a starting 12 job playing with Evans and RHP, or Anderson or another winger gets hurt and there is a job for them both, then I'm ok with Roy making the team TO PLAY.
Yes, he was a 5th round pick but had he been 20 days younger, he probably would have been a first round pick in 2022 after winning the Q scoring crown. So I don't care about draft pedigree in his case. I care only about readiness. I think his roles in the past two years were significant, and if he shows after a great camp that he can contribute with the Habs right away without being a defensive liability (not trusted), then why not?
Whereas with Mesar, an ACTUAL 2022 1st rounder, I would be more surprised if he were ready for the NHL this year, and even if he got say 2 points in an exhibition game, I would not be jumping to pull the trigger just yet.
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I mean, if any player wins their spot theyre welcome to be in the NHL.
Winning their spot =/= surviving though, its actually driving play and doing positive things.
In that light, the positive comments about Slaf coming from both Gallagher and Caufield are encouraging at least.
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With Dvo out, I see one spot potentially open at forward. It depends if we go 14 forwards or 8D - or 3 goalies.
Basically, I see Heineman, Roy, Beck, Lindstrom, Primeau, and DeSmith in competition for the 23rd and final spot on the roster, after the following 22:
Caufield Suzuki Newhook
Slaf Dach Gallagher (yuk)
RHP Monahan Anderson
Ylonen Evans Armia
Pez
Matheson Savard
Guhle Barron
Harris Xhekaj
Kovacevic
Montembault
Allen
OK, did Lehkonen drive play a lot when he first made the club after coming over?
I think it is good enough for a player to be a complementary player, but EFFECTIVE. Is in the right places to help his line create pressure and even better some goals. Perhaps he can be a 2nd unit PKer, that contirbutes too. A rookie winger doesn't have to be the one carrying the puck a lot, in that sense of 'driving'.
I see the same names in the starting 20, except am open to Allen being the 23rd if Primeau or deSmith impress nicely and leapfrog him.
Beck is not someone I would give a big shot to. He is 19 and has not played a ton of Junior games yet. I'd like to see how he does if counted upon for offence in his final Junior season.
Add Farrell instead.
And Lindstrok as he is sometimes called here has such terrible numbers the past few years that I don't think he is worth keeping a roster spot for, unless there is a big revelation.
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salbutera
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In the end, it’s really about what role does the org foresee for prospect X and is that expectation in line w players ability at NHL level
Newhook was expected to play a dump & puck retrieve 3C game… IMO, miscast by Avs, that’s simply not who the player is vs speed / transition capabilities
Lekhonen was projected to be the grinder with non stop motor … which is what he’s always been at NHL level
Mrb1p
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Lekhonen was very close to his natural ceiling and I think he did drive play, yes. Now Mete and Kotkaniemi? No. Even if they were all comparatively close players. Kotkaniemi was very far off his natural ceiling and so was Mete.
Theres a clear difference between all three, and Lekhonen had the much better development path because he was allowed to dominate two leagues before coming over. I think the best course of action is still to let Joshua simmer at least 40ish games in the AHL, exactly like Lekhonen did (age wise, and playing in a top pro league).
Really Lekhonen had an almost ideal development path, and weirdly... hes the only one that panned out. (Makes you think)
salbutera
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Wonder if Lias Andersson would has pole position locked up given he’s older AND allows prospects to develop at AHL without being rushed
Mrb1p
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I wouldnt mind AHL but its gonna be clogged with kids down there so Id rather Kloten or even SHL.
Slaf? He shouldnt be given a free spot. If hes slow off the start, he needs to go down. Being a 10A 6'4 monster doesnt give you a pass.
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