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While i wish Martin was retained I understand why he wasnt. You need to let the new coach hire the people he is comfortable and not force others on them.

fresh start for the new coach
 
Two of three I can see.

Gallant is seen as a strong candidate for Seattle in many circles.

let me ask you a question. You’re gallant and you assume yah I’ll prob end up with Seattle another expansion franchise.

then the job of New York Rangers coach opens up and you’ve got the names Panarin Fox Kakko Lafreniere Zibanejad Kreider Shesterkin Trouba Miller sitting there

who do you want to go coach knowing this stop is going to be VERY important in proving you are going to be a good nhl coach for a long time?
 
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I can't understand why people want Babcock, the man is a bonafide psychopath.

Just how much drama do people want around this team?
Yes indeed. Hiring Babcock would be a HUGE mistake. He's another Keenan in an era where NO player wants to have that kind of maniac as their coach, who actively tries to make the players hate him - for very cruel reasons. It's insane. It's not a malignant marine drill sergeant the franchise should be asking for, it's a proper, professional coach that supports his players, not pressuring them to even ask if they should quit hockey altogether. Are the players going to war? Hire Babock. He could stand at a mud slide at an army training course. If you want them to be hockey players molding as a unit, you never even think to bring that sociopath on board.

Bring a goddamn Euro coach on board that knows he's a mentor and not a dictator. Someone who connects with the struggles of his players and don't try to punish them for trying, rather trying to direct them. A coach who knows he should let alot of stuff be discussed and solved among the players themselves and not his own ego, as a unit. A compassionate leader, the pressure doesn't have to be brought on further on the careers all players fight for. A coach that doesn't draw a line between his team and himself. Almost impossible stuff to understand as a US corporate man who knows jack shit about inspiration and motivation. Enough of the stiff, binary, systematic morons please.

But do I expect it? No. I expect another inadequate, well known name who will also fail because they don't understand leadership.
 
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let me ask you a question. You’re gallant and you assume yah I’ll prob end up with Seattle another expansion franchise.

then the job of New York Rangers coach opens up and you’ve got the names Panarin Fox Kakko Lafreniere Zibanejad Kreider Shesterkin Trouba Miller sitting there

who do you want to go coach knowing this stop is going to be VERY important in proving you are going to be a good nhl coach for a long time?

Might depend on how he views the stability of the situation, where he thinks the team is, and whether his timeline and expectation aligns with the people controlling his fate.

If he thinks NY is another two year stop for him, there's gonna be reservations there.
 
let me ask you a question. You’re gallant and you assume yah I’ll prob end up with Seattle another expansion franchise.

then the job of New York Rangers coach opens up and you’ve got the names Panarin Fox Kakko Lafreniere Zibanejad Kreider Shesterkin Trouba Miller sitting there

who do you want to go coach knowing this stop is going to be VERY important in proving you are going to be a good nhl coach for a long time?

Unless perhaps he doesn't like working for an owner like Dolan.
 
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Might depend on how he views the stability of the situation, where he thinks the team is, and whether his timeline and expectation aligns with the people controlling his fate.

If he thinks NY is another two year stop for him, there's gonna be reservations there.

No no I was genuinely curious how you’d view it.

I can’t see how Seattle is a more stable situation than here. There owner is going to want some success and compare to Vegas is my guess
 
LOL, exactly.

In the 24 years I've been here, I think we've had a horrible, idiotic coach, whom the team won in spite of , at least 6 times.

And every time you'll hear, "No, we didn't hate the last coach nearly this much. This one is different."
Exactly. And the out of left field reasons are getting more out there. One of my favorites was blaming Quinn for dressing Shesty when he pulled his groin.

"Damit Quinn, shoulda dressed Georgiev!! Lmaoo
 
Lol, reading this thread I have had my mind changed with each page. It dont look like as fans we will reach any kind of a consensus.

also I would have liked to hold on to Martin as an assistant to Drury. He knows the makeup of the team and locker room. Good hockey man. Dont know his relationship with Drury tho.
 
Lol

after a long absence from this clown show organization, I have to say that David quinn was never the answer here. Ever.

Long
Over
Due

back to square one. reset 2.0

dumping jeff gorton long over due too.

this organization is a mess and the fans deserve better.

Just copy what tampa does and do that.

draft better and utilize your talent properly.
It ain’t that hard.
 
I think Quinn was alright, did some good things, but not quite good enough altogether I think to get the team all the way to the next level
my biggest criticism is just how much he sheltered some of the younger players...I think Kakko in particular should have been given far more responsibility this past season based on how far his game had come but Quinn was always quick to shelter him for no good reason
 
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This idea that Dolan is any crazier than any other owner is a myth

they’re all power hungry ego maniacs that think they know best about everything

they’re all driven by money which comes with wins

What they all DONT have in common is a willingness to always spend. Not just on the roster I mean on luxury amenities travel food training and medical staffs. No one has it better than the Rangers. They all say it after they leave. First class.

so if you’re a coach and you have all this talent ready to roll and the Rangers call I can’t imagine anyone saying I don’t want to work for Dolan
 
No no I was genuinely curious how you’d view it.

I can’t see how Seattle is a more stable situation than here. There owner is going to want some success and compare to Vegas is my guess

Roleplaying for a second, I'd say if I was the candidate I'd see opportunity and risk in both situations.

As weird as it is to say, I'd almost think that my roster in Seattle will be more experienced than the one I am inheriting in New York --- despite the Rangers top-end talent.

The situation at the top in NY scares me a little, because I see a very young team that is going to need time. I also a veteran core that isn't diverse and might not have that "scrappy, can-do" attitude we'll need to bridge the gap.

Seattle has the challenge that they will instinctively be compared to Vegas --- even if other teams learned painful lessons from last time and don't make similar mistakes. It's a wildcard because I might have a lot to work with, or I might have more scraps than people expect.

I'd take the New York job, but I'd have to be convinced about the vision and the process.
 
Posted my take on the main boards:

If you look at the Rangers this season, I don't think you can really say they underperformed considering expectations. They were expected to fight for the 4th place in a tough division, and they did that. One could even argue, that without covid-Zibanejad and the Panarin situation, they could've actually made it.

Now looking beyond just the results, DQ was brought in especially to develop the kids. Looking at them today vs when they arrived, has that really happened. I don't think so. Like I said earlier, I do give him some credit of making the kids play responsibly in their own end, making them defensively competent. But let's face it, it's not really what you want from your 1st, 2nd and 9th overall picks. Yes, they are supposed to make some offense by themselves, but not when they are mostly playing in the 3rd or 4th line with little or no PP time. DQ had the opportunity to make balanced lines with mixing the kids and the vets, and he didn't. Yes, Kakko and Laf were given the odd opportunities to play with the vets in some games, but mostly they didn't. Only later in the season did he put Laf in the 1st line and guess what? He took off.

Most importantly, is he the coach who can make the Rangers make the next step? I think very few people were confident in that. He's still a young coach in the NHL level, and during his time with the Rangers he really hasn't adjusted his style at all. The Rangers really need to have a different look, especially with the kids.

One more thing to ponder, especially with the Rangers fans who are on edge if there are going to be major roster changes with the kids included. Is it possible that the reason Jeff Gorton and John Davidson were fired because they really stood up to Quinn, and wanted him to stay for the next season? Yes, the timings of the firings do raise some questions. Why wasn't DQ let go at the same time etc. But, Drury clearly wanted to make those exit talks with the players and I think even if it was decided that DQ is going to, to have him and his staff to be interviewed along to learn about the players etc.

Drury, Gallant pls.
 
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That's probably their primary trade chip anyway.

As uncomfortable as that might be for some fans.
I always considered him a tweener and the return for him if dealt by himself will be underwhelming....he is overrated IMO. I have no high hopes for a return that will be a long term fit on our club that is a part of our top 6 .
 
Oct. 12, 2021: opening night of the new season. 7:15 PM, first poster on HF complains about the new coach, demanding his ouster.
You know it. They'll see the lines in the GDT and be like "this is horse shit!" before the Rangers play a single minute.
 
This idea that Dolan is any crazier than any other owner is a myth

they’re all power hungry ego maniacs that think they know best about everything

they’re all driven by money which comes with wins

What they all DONT have in common is a willingness to always spend. Not just on the roster I mean on luxury amenities travel food training and medical staffs. No one has it better than the Rangers. They all say it after they leave. First class.

so if you’re a coach and you have all this talent ready to roll and the Rangers call I can’t imagine anyone saying I don’t want to work for Dolan

But he is. You literally have 20 years of history with regards to the Knicks. He ruined that team.
 
Two of three I can see.

Gallant is seen as a strong candidate for Seattle in many circles.
There are a lot of his close friends that also figure as much...even his brothers won't divulge on that though . He did say he would bleed his former club of every last red cent he was owed .
 
Just a hunch, honestly. To be fair though, I don't have the knowledge or understanding of what makes a good NHL coach, or understand the fine intricacies of systems, like majority of the posters here. But he was a former player who can speak their language, walked the walk kinda thing. I think he can help instill the right attitude and culture (if that really was an issue) and knows what it takes to win in the playoffs. But most importantly his last name isn't Tortorella, Boudreau, Babcock, Roy, or Hartley.

Tocchet's proven nothing as a head coach. Bring him in as an assistant if you want but as head coach it would just be another Quinn situation. The Yotes fans couldn't wait to see the back of him. Tocchet survived into this season because of the turmoil left behind by Chayka but time ran out and reality set in.
 
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