Rumor: Dater: MacKinnon Seeking to Be the NHL's Highest Paid Player

[Quinning]

He's been underpaid for years, think of it as back pay.

 

[tucker3434]

Just an FYI, P.Kane started that 10.5 mil caphit at the age of 26…

Kane was worth it. It was the Toews, Seabrook, Keith contracts that put the Blackhawks in a bind. If Kane had been the guy they cut, they would’ve been in a real mess.

 

[ElLeetch]

It works like this on HF:

- prior to their draft, they're too young to accurately assess
- the moment they're drafted, they're total shit because they're not proven yet, but the fans of the team that drafted the prospect think he's the greatest player of all time
- once they're young and established in the NHL, the clock is ticking on the years of team control so they're not worth as much in a trade as a 14-year old that can do fancy hockey tricks on social media
- once they're on their 2nd contract they're going to eventually be a UFA so they suck
- once they're on their 3rd contract they're old as shit so they doubly suck
- if they're 35+ they should honestly be dead and buried because they don't deserve to play over a prospect that can't even cut it in the AHL

I still remember when the UFA age was 31, and signing a player at 31 was good because they still had many years ahead of them.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Going home as opposed to playing in covid-obsessed Canada for a rabid fanbase? Absolutely.

This isn't even your personal speculation or opinion, its you hoping lol.

 

[StreetHawk]

I still remember when the UFA age was 31, and signing a player at 31 was good because they still had many years ahead of them.

I think the term that the guys got back then wasn’t as long. But still ended at around 36 or so which is what these guys today who hit ufa at 28/29 who get max term end up at.

Mack and the Avs can sign a deal anytime now. So probably something that they should try to get done this off season.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Would be cool to see Mack with Crosby on the pens if he doesn't resign with the Avs.

 

[themelkman]

Maybe he should just stop thinking and say f*** it

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

The Flames could be a great fit for Mack as well if he doesn't resign. Would love to see that, he'd be great on the Flames.

 

[NoTeeth]

Mackinnon taking a huge "Discount" on his last deal is one of the biggest B.S narratives going right now.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Mackinnon taking a huge "Discount" on his last deal is one of the biggest B.S narratives going right now.

For real. At the time of the signing it was considered a risky signing for the Avs because of the term.

 

[NoTeeth]

Going home as opposed to playing in covid-obsessed Canada for a rabid fanbase? Absolutely.

Being in a Covid obsessed country is actually better than playing for a team with no money to pay you and a 5K university arena that is a bottom feeder every year.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Mackinnon taking a huge "Discount" on his last deal is one of the biggest B.S narratives going right now.

Regardless of the circumstances the fact remains that the Avs got massive surplus Value on Mack's contract. That surplus value needs to be considered when signing his next deal. Hopefully he gets paid well because he deserves it. I see him at 13 to 13.5 x 8.

 

[NoTeeth]

Regardless of the circumstances the fact remains that the Avs got massive surplus Value on Mack's contract. That surplus value needs to be considered when signing his next deal. Hopefully he gets paid well because he deserves it. I see him at 13 to 13.5 x 8.

They did. I just keep reading he took some massive discount. Not correct. 63, 38, 53 points in his ELC. Didn't have much negotiating power.,

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

For real. At the time of the signing it was considered a risky signing for the Avs because of the term.

Doesn't negate all the eventual surplus value it gave the Avs. Its not nearly the only factor but pretending it won't factor in at all is naive and wishful thinking.

They did. I just keep reading he took some massive discount. Not correct. 63, 38, 53 points in his ELC. Didn't have much negotiating power.,

Thats fair and accurate but regardless it will still be a factor in his upcoming negotiations.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I still remember when the UFA age was 31, and signing a player at 31 was good because they still had many years ahead of them.

Yep. The game has changed a lot. Some for the better, some for the worse in my opinion.

 

[redandyellowcametobe]

You want EJ back at 6M? If he comes back with 1-2M that'd be fine. That's replacing EJ with EJ. But I think he's retiring. JTC needs to be replaced by a 2C for Avs. If there is none, that could be JT.

What / who do you expect to get for trading Rants unless your mind is in a re-build mode. He is the other beast in the playoffs with MacKinnon in this team. And elite in regular season, also. Who are you going to trade him for an at what price? Rantanen is an immovable object both on the ice and in the trade market. And that's all good for the Avs.

Mack >> Rants

Funny you think losing Rants would set off a rebuild but losing a top 5 center wouldn’t

Immovable on the ice? Rants was dreadful end of the season and the 2.5 rounds of the playoffs. Not exactly a beast this year in the playoffs. All that said, why would he be immovable in the trade market?

Who said anything about resigning EJ? Use most of EJ money and resign Mack and EJ replacement with the difference. JTC will be gone next summer too. Sure you’ll have to replace him but you can find what he brings for a lower cap. There’s no doubt the Avs will be in a cap crunch starting next year.

Just like Tampa was and other cup contending teams. Eventually,. you lose depth and try to replace the best possible way. You don’t let a top 5 center in Mack walk. Anyone that’s unbiased can see that.

The Avs will and should let their riches in D walk or trade before you let a elite center leave.

You stated no other teams would pay Mack and to that, I said … you’re out to lunch.

 

[TheFinalWord]

Going home as opposed to playing in covid-obsessed Canada for a rabid fanbase? Absolutely.

I will never understand why people try to drag stupid shit into these conversations. It's clear you're trolling. And that's fine. It's easy to add you to ignore, but it just detracts from reasonable conversations. You're adding nothing, and perhaps that's all you have to share, but you really should look in the mirror.

 

[not a troll]

When was the last time Dater was right about anything?

 

[SnowStorm]

I will never understand why people try to drag stupid shit into these conversations. It's clear you're trolling. And that's fine. It's easy to add you to ignore, but it just detracts from reasonable conversations. You're adding nothing, and perhaps that's all you have to share, but you really should look in the mirror.

Lol, why are you so rustled? You may not agree but for some people that could be a legitimate factor in choosing where they want to live. Your defensive comments detract from the conversation just as much as his original statement. If you don’t like it just ignore it and move along.

 

[Spilot23]

I don't know if this was posted here but I think it was on the Avs board. But this is just Dater speculating :

• Some on social media misinterpreted (this never happens, I know) the story as to mean it is MacKinnon’s “demand” or something. There’s no “demand” from him or anyone else here. It’s just, absolutely, that the expectation is that MacKinnon will have the highest salary in the league when he signs his next deal. That might only be for one day, one month or one year, though.
• Connor McDavid is currently the highest-paid player in the league, with a $12.5 million cap hit (but a $16 million actual salary this coming season).
• When MacKinnon actually signs his next contract – and it is almost certainly to be with the Avalanche, but it doesn’t have to be – the absolute minimum expectation of a cap hit is $13 million, based on my conversations with NHL sources.

Avalanche Notebook: More On MacKinnon Next Deal, Kadri/Isles Rumors Swirl

 

[TomppaKoo]

Mack >> Rants

Funny you think losing Rants would set off a rebuild but losing a top 5 center wouldn’t

Immovable on the ice? Rants was dreadful end of the season and the 2.5 rounds of the playoffs. Not exactly a beast this year in the playoffs. All that said, why would he be immovable in the trade market?

Who said anything about resigning EJ? Use most of EJ money and resign Mack and EJ replacement with the difference. JTC will be gone next summer too. Sure you’ll have to replace him but you can find what he brings for a lower cap. There’s no doubt the Avs will be in a cap crunch starting next year.

Just like Tampa was and other cup contending teams. Eventually,. you lose depth and try to replace the best possible way. You don’t let a top 5 center in Mack walk. Anyone that’s unbiased can see that.

The Avs will and should let their riches in D walk or trade before you let a elite center leave.

You stated no other teams would pay Mack and to that, I said … you’re out to lunch.

Just stop the BS

Rantanen was 1st in points during regular season and second In Playoffs. Hater's gonna hate I gues woohoo MacK makes a fast skating entry blindfold and makes a useless spinorama and loses the puck. It is flashy, yes, but does not make him the best player in the league. Arguably, Rantanen makes players around him better than MacK with his individual efforts. Look at Kadri's numbers and think about how much it was influenced by being able to play with Rantanen.

MacKinnon broke out when he got to play with Rantanen. Before that he was very mediocre. I don't get the hate. The Big boy is awesome in any meter.

Which team is going to pay MacK 13M? For a lunch? No contending team is looking forward to being the next Edmonton Oilers. And for all those "cap is goin up" - guys. The Economy is not exactly booming at the moment nor is it during near foreseeable future. And owners are not getting cheaper, they will be as greedy as they have ever been. There will be no big jumps in cap hit. Quote this post in 4 years.

 

[jcs0218]

This Crosby narrative is nonsense (just like Mackinnon selflessly taking a discount on his last contract… when he was a 60 point player). Crosby got a now illegal backdiving contract that was the most lucrative in NHL history. He traded cap hit for term at the height of his concussion issues when there was a very realistic possibility his career would be cut short.

They love to pay themselves on the back for these things.

He still allowed his cap hit to be lower by taking less in the years at the end.

I am sure he would have gotten $12.0+ million in all years of his contract, if he had asked for it.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'm sure winning the cup has changed his POV a bit.

He's on his "team friendly" deal now. He helped them to a cup. He deserves to get paid among the best in the league.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

If this thread is any indication it seems some avs fans want to nickel and dime Mackinnon, if management does the same I hope he walks and plays for a group that would appreciate his talents.

 

[who_me?]

whatever he gets, it should be greater than what his team mate Mikhail Makarov is getting.