Confirmed Signing with Link: [DAL] Miro Heiskanen signs extension with the Stars (8 years, $8.45M AAV)

[Cousin Eddie]

Not really, the Avs are not in a cap crunch.

They are now. Most were hoping Makar to get 8.8-9.2ish AAV

Now all of a sudden Heiskanen just got the richest AAV for a defenseman coming off their ELC ever and Makar who is in the exact same situation literally just doubled Heiskanen’s production. Colorado are f***ed lol.

 

[serp]

wow, that may set the bar on Dougie Hamilton

Hamilton is UFA . Makar , Dahlin and Fox are RFA's and compareable but Hamilton is not . He's older and can test the open market .

 

[Breakers]

He definitely deferred as much money as possible into year 3 to avoid escrow percentages

 

[Zirakzigil]

Great deal. He’s worth it. Was impressed with him during the playoff bubble.

 

[Siludin]

Avs and Canucks fans shaking their fists at the sky

 

[Theodore450]

Great deal for a #1 D

 

[jonlin]

I absolutely hate 8 year deals. Love the player but good luck.

What? Every GM LOVES 8yr deal for young players. No question. It`s the 30+ players getting long contracts normal fans hate...

 

[Pavels Dog]

Career high of 35 points..

Not a fan of deals like this. Could end up worth it, but you’re paying for things he hasn’t done yet.

 

[Ignatius]

To those of you saying that this is too much to pay for Miro, just remember that Dallas had the opportunity to trade him to Ottawa for Erik Karlsson. So would you rather be paying 4Miro or EK65?

 

[LOFIN]

They are now. Most were hoping Makar to get 8.8-9.2ish AAV

Now all of a sudden Heiskanen just got the richest AAV for a defenseman coming off their ELC ever and Makar who is in the exact same situation literally just doubled Heiskanen’s production. Colorado are f***ed lol.

You can't just compare production with these guys.

 

[Curufinwe]

Career high of 35 points..

Not a fan of deals like this. Could end up worth it, but you’re paying for things he hasn’t done yet.

We just had two shortened seasons

 

[Gabe Kupari]

You know Fox just won the Norris right?

Who cares. He's 2 years older also.

 

[jonlin]

Career high of 35 points..

Not a fan of deals like this. Could end up worth it, but you’re paying for things he hasn’t done yet.

The thing about Heiskanen is - he can defend. His comparables Makar and Dahlin are worse on that department.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

We just had two shortened seasons

Ya. Those d men who are good at D are just awful.

 

[HF007]

This is the first big domino to fall for Makar/Fox/Hughes negotiations and unfortunately for the Avs and Rangers its not a good one.

Mind you I think Heiskanen is absolutely unquestionably worth that money, I think the hope/belief was that with Covid it would maybe drive that first contract of this group down a little.

The hope was probably more along the lines of ~7.5-8 for Miro and Hughes, ~9-9.5 for Makar and then 10-10.5 for Fox.


Now I think Makar has an easy argument for 10+, and Fox can look at whatever Makar signs and add another 500k-1M thanks to his Norris trophy.


Obviously its possible guys take discounts. But at this point I think it'll be a 10M deal for Makar and 10.5M for Fox. Hughes comes in slightly under Heiskanen at 8M.

hopefully in a bittersweet move they can use makar’s injury against him in negotiation

 

[Cousin Eddie]

You can't just compare production with these guys.

What else can you compare? Defense? How do you argue defense in a contract negotiation? If it’s metrics that won’t help Sakic’s case.

 

[EXTRAS]

I reckon that's a great deal for Dallas. Quality player.

The only people who could be against it are a) fans of his rivals or b) capped, points-only keeper league GMs who own him.

Heiskanen isn't great in any keeper league format tbh. I'm in a league with 12 skater categories and he was the 60th ranked dman.

 

[Canuck86]

Seems expensive…

Say a maple laff fan...with way bigger contracts hindering the team from winning a single playoff round due to taking up too much cap!

 

[StreetHawk]

The thing about Heiskanen is - he can defend. His comparables Makar and Dahlin are worse on that department.

He was a monster at a ppg in the 2020 playoffs.

 

[Canuck86]

Avs and Canucks fans shaking their fists at the sky

Miro is >> to Hughes imo, Hughes can't play D.

 

[LOFIN]

What else can you compare? Defense? How do you argue defense in a contract negotiation? If it’s metrics that won’t help Sakic’s case.

If we would only compare production the contract negotiations would be easy. Just look at the data, same table league wide.

Don't get me wrong, Makar should get paid more. But if he signs for 8x 9.5 or 10 mil that's a great deal for the Avs, and about what I expected all along.

 

[Polar Bear]

Who cares. He's 2 years older also.

 

[93gilmour93]

I like the deal. Dallas got this stud locked up long term and even if there is an argument he’s overpaid for a season or two it’s a good deal long term. Great player and well done Dallas

 

[Polar Bear]

He’s probably the 2nd best defenseman in the league and could take over the throne within a year or two

Ehhhhh, that's a bit of a stretch. I think he has the potential to consistently be a top five defenseman though.

 

[Brownies]

Lots of what have you done for me lately in this thread.