D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

[SlafySZN]

Think the hope is one year in Europe, one year in Laval, and then with the big club for his age 20 season. We will have a much better idea of who he is by then.

He won’t play in the AHL.

Maybe after his season this year but i really, really doubt he won’t be ready for the NHL next year.

 

[Kshahdoo]

He won’t play in the AHL.

Maybe after his season this year but i really, really doubt he won’t be ready for the NHL next year.

Yeah, probably more money in Switzerland, and the league is pretty comparable to AHL skill wise. The only problem is the size of ice, but it looks like it's not a problem for the kid.

 

[Hinterland]

Yeah, probably more money in Switzerland, and the league is pretty comparable to AHL skill wise. The only problem is the size of ice, but it looks like it's not a problem for the kid.

Don't know his contract but what I do know is that he's still on his 1st pro contract and that he signed it as pretty much a nobody and while the team was still playing SL.

He's also still doing an apprenticeship which means that he's actually not a real pro, has to go to school, prepare for exams and work significant hours as well. As an athlete your employer usually tries to accomodate you, give you flexibility whenever possible but he's not always gonna be available for team activities, team meetings, team work outs, possibily even team practices.

Now it's possible Kloten agreed to give him a pay raise based on his progress as a player and it's also possible he negociated rich performance bonuses etc but if not, he's probably not making AHL money in Switzerland. In Switzerland you can earn a very good salary as a hockey player but certainly not on your deal in pro hockey and particularly not if you can't turn pro full time.

Also, Canada may be an expensive country but Switzerland even more so. Either way I don't think it pays for him financially to add an extra year in Switzerland but it makes sense because he's got a good standing in Kloten and it's also much easier to finish his apprenticeship in Switzerland. Don't think it would have been fun doing remote work and preparing for exams during AHL/NHL road trips. Don't think the focus on hockey would have been there to be honest.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Don't know his contract but what I do know is that he's still on his 1st pro contract and that he signed it as pretty much a nobody and while the team was still playing SL.

He's also still doing an apprenticeship which means that he's actually not a real pro, has to go to school, prepare for exams and work significant hours as well. As an athlete your employer usually tries to accomodate you, give you flexibility whenever possible but he's not always gonna be available for team activities, team meetings, team work outs, possibily even team practices.

Now it's possible Kloten agreed to give him a pay raise based on his progress as a player and it's also possible he negociated rich performance bonuses etc but if not, he's probably not making AHL money in Switzerland. In Switzerland you can earn a very good salary as a hockey player but certainly not on your deal in pro hockey and particularly not if you can't turn pro full time.

Also, Canada may be an expensive country but Switzerland even more so. Either way I don't think it pays for him financially to add an extra year in Switzerland but it makes sense because he's got a good standing in Kloten and it's also much easier to finish his apprenticeship in Switzerland. Don't think it would have been fun doing remote work and preparing for exams during AHL/NHL road trips. Don't think the focus on hockey would have been there to be honest.

Do you mean that NLA players aren't full time profies?

 

[Hinterland]

Do you mean that NLA players aren't full time profies?

If they do an apprenticeship like Reinbacher does then no. The same goes for athletes across all sports in Switzerland. Either you study or you do an apprenticeship. You can fully focus on sports but that's not a very popular option in Switzerland because it's risky. If the pro athlete thing doesn't work out you're left with nothing and an education is nice to have for your life after pro sports as well. Most pro's can't just sit on their ass for the rest of their lives, have to continue to earn money.

 

[Kshahdoo]

If they do an apprenticeship like Reinbacher does then no. The same goes for athletes across all sports in Switzerland. Either you study or you do an apprenticeship. You can fully focus on sports but that's not a very popular option in Switzerland because it's risky. If the pro athlete thing doesn't work out you're left with nothing and an education is nice to have for your life after pro sports as well. Most pro's can't just sit on their ass for the rest of their lives, have to continue to earn money.

Even if you're a top hockey or football prospect?

 

[Hinterland]

Even if you're a top hockey or football prospect?

Yes. There are always exceptions. Some who focus on sports only but usually even agents and teams don't recommend doing that. Try living in Switzerland without some kind of diploma or degree. Good luck. You're not gonna have much fun.

There are special schools for the most promising sports prospects...I think Reinbacher is part of such a project as well. They're pretty good at managing
facilitating everything. Makes it a lot easier for the kids. But you still have to learn for exams and you gotta go to work as well if you do an apprenticeship.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Yes. There are always exceptions. Some who focus on sports only but usually even agents and teams don't recommend doing that. Try living in Switzerland without some kind of diploma or degree. Good luck. You're not gonna have much fun.

There are special schools for the most promising sports prospects...I think Reinbacher is part of such a project as well. They're pretty good at managing
facilitating everything. Makes it a lot easier for the kids. But you still have to learn for exams and you gotta go to work as well if you do an apprenticeship.

I mean top prospects are usually already good enough for top Swiss pro leagues, where they should make more than after finishing univercity let alone some kind of a school.

 

[Hinterland]

I mean top prospects are usually already good enough for top Swiss pro leagues, where they should make more than after finishing univercity let alone some kind of a school.

Possible but what happens in case of an injury? After retiring from pro sports? Most kids are finishing some kind of an education. Reinbacher's path is pretty common. He's got just one more year ahead of him. From next summer he can fully focus on hockey and he'll have a diploma in his backpocket in case something happens or for the time after pro hockey.

Pretty similar to NA actually where education is important as well. The difference is that you can play in pro leagues while still working on your education.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Possible but what happens in case of an injury? After retiring from pro sports? Most kids are finishing some kind of an education. Reinbacher's path is pretty common. He's got just one more year ahead of him. From next summer he can fully focus on hockey and he'll have a diploma in his backpocket in case something happens or for the time after pro hockey.

Will this diploma even matter in a few years? I mean modern life is pretty dynamic, and your skills that are good for today, won't be any good in 3-4 years.

 

[Hinterland]

Will this diploma even matter in a few years? I mean modern life is pretty dynamic, and your skills that are good for today, won't be any good in 3-4 years.

That's a good question but probably one for a different thread. I believe he's doing some kind of a clerk/administration diploma which could be helpful even outside of work though. Nothing wrong with doing it.

 

[badfish]

I was on the Michkov train and disappointed with Reinbacher cause I thought he was the safe pick. But after watching the Habs draft video and more importantly his games in the pre-season I don't think he was the safe pick at all. I think they swung for the fences thinking if his offense develops he will be a premier defenseman in the league. His defensive game was very impressive for an 18 year old, but my favourite things I saw him do was excellent break-outs and to activate on the weak side from the point multiple times. Both of those attributes were hallmarks of Andrei Markovs game. In my opinon, the Habs defense has never really replaced the skills Markov brought to the table, and has suffered because of it. If Reinbacher can bring some of the elements of Markovs game back to Montreal's defense then the back end will be in great shape and the pick is great value.

 

[Captain97]

If they do an apprenticeship like Reinbacher does then no. The same goes for athletes across all sports in Switzerland. Either you study or you do an apprenticeship. You can fully focus on sports but that's not a very popular option in Switzerland because it's risky. If the pro athlete thing doesn't work out you're left with nothing and an education is nice to have for your life after pro sports as well. Most pro's can't just sit on their ass for the rest of their lives, have to continue to earn money.

I mean he also would have received a $95,000 usd signing bonus in July so he should be fine not needing another job. Also he is on loan from Montreal so it's possible the Habs are paying at least part of his salary no?

 

[Hinterland]

I mean he also would have received a $95,000 usd signing bonus in July so he should be fine not needing another job. Also he is on loan from Montreal so it's possible the Habs are paying at least part of his salary no?

He doesn't need a job for financial reasons. Reinbacher is working because it's part of his apprenticeship and from what I understood it was never an option for him to not finish that. He has just one year left on it and if he stayed in NA he would have finished the apprenticeship from Canada. Which would have been a pain in the ass I guess so it made a lot of sense for him to return to Switzerland where it's much easier to finish his apprenticeship.

I'm not an expert but I don't think Montreal is paying Reinbacher anything this season. If he joins the organization later this season then of course they would have to pay him. However, Reinbacher also still has a contract with Kloten. His first pro deal he signed back when Kloten was still in the SL. He would have been able to get out of that contract to join the Canadiens organization because of the transfer agreement Switzerland recently signed but now that he was returned to Kloten my understanding is that he's on his old contract again.

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

Yes, I actually do.

Alright well you're in direct contradiction of multiple reports, Briere's own words that they met with him before the draft in Voorhees, as well as Michkov's own words immediately after being drafted that he felt like the Flyers execs were "his people"

@Colezuki

 

[Garl]

Will this diploma even matter in a few years? I mean modern life is pretty dynamic, and your skills that are good for today, won't be any good in 3-4 years.

Not really true. You get your diploma for fundamental, holistic things, college will not teach you how to do your everyday job

 

[Kshahdoo]

Not really true. You get your diploma for fundamental, holistic things, college will not teach you how to do your everyday job

Yeah sure, tell this to IT specialists. 3-4 years without professional experience, and even toilet paper will have more value than your diploma...

 

[Hinterland]

Yeah sure, tell this to IT specialists. 3-4 years without professional experience, and even toilet paper will have more value than your diploma...

I think you're confusing Swiss diplomas with Russian rubles.

 

[Garl]

Yeah sure, tell this to IT specialists. 3-4 years without professional experience, and even toilet paper will have more value than your diploma...

I am an IT specialist myself but ok

 

[Kshahdoo]

I think you're confusing Swiss diplomas with Russian rubles.

Yeah, ask all those foreigners who come to KHL, what is better, Swiss diploma or Russian rubles...

I am an IT specialist myself but ok

Go out then for a few years and then try to get a job and tell us about your experience...

 

[Hinterland]

Back on the top pairing next to his regular partner and Captain Steve Kellenberger tonight in Biel.

Also, here's an interesting article:

Er wollte schnell Essen holen, dann hiess es: «Um vier geht dein Flug, eine gute Saison»

Einst waren sie seine Helden auf der Playstation. Nun stand David Reinbacher mit den Stars der Montreal Canadiens auf dem Eis. Heute gibt er in Biel sein Comeback.

www.tagesanzeiger.ch

Apparently after the preseason game vs Toronto he was just about to grab some food after the sauna when he was asked "if he had 2secs". He was then handed his ticket for a flight home the next day. Reinbacher also said that there's a plan in place for his future but he's not allowed to share.

He landed 7am on Monday, took part in team practice at 10am. On Tuesday he was back at work (as a Recruiter, I forgot) which is probably why he missed the game in Geneva. He said that there were three bigger groups in the Montreal training camp. US americans, Canadians and French Canadians. Reinbacher said he was just about to make friends when he got cut. He also said that the better you train and play, the more guys talk to you. His best friends were Kaiden Guhle and Filip Mesar. Cole Caufield apparently invited him to his place Saturday evening but Reinbacher was unable to go because he had to pack his stuff.

Reinbacher said he told the media to call him "Reinbacker" because he thinks it's funny and because they wouldn't be able to pronounce his name correctly anyway.

 

[montreal]

 

[Jay26]

Back on the top pairing next to his regular partner and Captain Steve Kellenberger tonight in Biel.

Also, here's an interesting article:

Er wollte schnell Essen holen, dann hiess es: «Um vier geht dein Flug, eine gute Saison»

Einst waren sie seine Helden auf der Playstation. Nun stand David Reinbacher mit den Stars der Montreal Canadiens auf dem Eis. Heute gibt er in Biel sein Comeback.

www.tagesanzeiger.ch

Apparently after the preseason game vs Toronto he was just about to grab some food after the sauna when he was asked "if he had 2secs". He was then handed his ticket for a flight home the next day. Reinbacher also said that there's a plan in place for his future but he's not allowed to share.

He landed 7am on Monday, took part in team practice at 10am. On Tuesday he was back at work (as a Recruiter, I forgot) which is probably why he missed the game in Geneva. He said that there were three bigger groups in the Montreal training camp. US americans, Canadians and French Canadians. Reinbacher said he was just about to make friends when he got cut. He also said that the better you train and play, the more guys talk to you. His best friends were Kaiden Guhle and Filip Mesar. Cole Caufield apparently invited him to his place Saturday evening but Reinbacher was unable to go because he had to pack his stuff.

Reinbacher said he told the media to call him "Reinbacker" because he thinks it's funny and because they wouldn't be able to pronounce his name correctly anyway.

Interesting that he made friends with Guhle. Wonder if that's a future top pairing for Montreal!

 

[montreal]

 

[LesCanadiens]

Sky is the limit. He looks so mature and smooth.