Coyotes Tempe arena project rejected by public referendum - will remain at Mullett Arena for 2023-24

[Dirty Dog]

I wish things would have worked out for their fans. Losing a sports team is the worst and I don’t wish that on anyone. But it appears to be time.

Quebec would be the coolest option. I think Houston is the safest option though

 

[Boris Zubov]

Did the Suns and Coyotes ever share an arena?

Couple NHL teams already in that situation (LA, Dallas, Toronto, Boston, etc.), and it seems mutually beneficial.

Yes, from 1996 to 2003. Same arena the Suns currently play in....which was never intended to host an NHL team. It's similar to Barclay's Center with the asymmetrical dimensions & obstructed sight-lines on one side of the building.

Regardless, there are bigger issues sharing the building wouldn't work unless the Suns owner buys the team. NHL franchises, especially the Yotes, can't survive without all the ancillary arena revenue.

 

[yianik]

So much for that TV deal... getting preempted by an early season baseball game.

Lol. Hockey definitely not at the top of the list in the USA.

 

[Pink Mist]

good riddance. the team should have been relocated years ago

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Can an NHL team play at State Farm before a new arena is built?

It would probably take some renovations. Most likely, they would play in the ECHL arena which fits 13K.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Will Gary keep the farce going longer? It is embarrassing. It is one fiasco after another with that franchise.

Sucks for their fans, but, at some point, enough has to be enough.

 

[Juve]

The thought of moving the Coyotes to Canada is probably going to cause Bettman to have a stroke.

 

[Legion34]

Aeros? No. Houston Oilers should live again.

If you think it doesn't work because of Edmonton, ask a Canadian about the Roughriders.

Easily the best name in sports.

It was used twice in an 8 team league n

Literally 25% of the entire league was named rough. Riders at one point

 

[canuckster19]

Easily the best name in sports.

It was used twice in an 8 team league n

Literally 25% of the entire league was named rough. Riders at one point

TBF Saskatchewan was called the Roughriders and Ottawa was called the Rough Riders, haha.

 

[Legion34]

Yes, from 1996 to 2003. Same arena the Suns currently play in....which was never intended to host an NHL team. It's similar to Barclay's Center with the asymmetrical dimensions & obstructed sight-lines on one side of the building.

Regardless, there are bigger issues sharing the building wouldn't work unless the Suns owner buys the team. NHL franchises, especially the Yotes, can't survive without all the ancillary arena revenue.

Can you give me an idea of why some basketball arenas aren’t suitable for hockey?

Why would they make sight lines that aren’t good for hockey? I guess the court is smaller… but why would they build something you can’t see the middle of?

TBF Saskatchewan was called the Roughriders and Ottawa was called the Rough Riders, haha.

All I know is wherever the yotes move they better be named the rough riders

 

[Laus723]

good riddance. the team should have been relocated years ago

Yeah, who gives a shit that Matthews and Knies are from there and may not be playing for the Leafs had the Coyotes not existed. Good riddance.

Laugh away, but takes like this are the biggest joke.

 

[Shwan]

The Yotes local TV ratings would argue that this was also a market problem. The existing Yotes fans are extremely loyal...problem is, there aren't nearly enough of them.

However, there's many factors that went into this & it's not just hockey that struggles in the Valley. The D-backs don't draw well & neither do the Cardinals....unless they're in the playoffs. Phoenix just isn't a great sports town...way too many outdoor activities in the region. No reason to waste time indoors to watch an NHL team that hasn't competed in over a decade.

The Irony is now after the Coyotes left, Glendale finally got their act together and pulled some great real estate deals for the area south of Westgate.

Having a $1B resort complete with a Mattel/Barbi theme park and 1,400 apartment units directly on the other side of the football stadium would have done a lot for attendence as long as they iced a competitive team.

 

[HockeyVirus]

I know there is a small fanbase of passionate fans but the city literally voted they don't want the Yotes there so I don't see how you can think there is potential for the market.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Can you give me an idea of why some basketball arenas aren’t suitable for hockey?

Why would they make sight lines that aren’t good for hockey? I guess the court is smaller… but why would they build something you can’t see the middle of?

I just gave two examples. In the Suns case, the owner of the team at the time, Jerry Colangelo specifically inquired to the NHL about future plans & if they had any future intentions of bringing a team to the Phoenix Valley. This was back in 1990-1991 & the league responded that they had zero interest in the market. Colangelo then built the America West Arena with a floor plan that couldn't accommodate hockey.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Houston or Atlanta is my guess. I'd imagine Houston is most likely given it's closer proximity but idk

Gotta feel for Yotes fans though. That's just brutal.

Atlanta? Why? So they can fail a 3rd time?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Yeah, who gives a shit that Matthews and Knies are from there and may not be playing for the Leafs had the Coyotes not existed. Good riddance.

Laugh away, but takes like this are the biggest joke.

What the hell? The franchise shouldn't exist forever because a couple players are from there. That's insane.

With that said, I'm sorry for the fans. But it is time.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Move them to Atlanta, then move the current Jets to Phoenix in 2035 or whatever. Rotate them every decade or two as needed.

 

[Legion34]

I just gave two examples. In the Suns case, the owner of the team at the time, Jerry Colangelo specifically inquired to the NHL about future plans & if they had any future intentions of bringing a team to the Phoenix Valley. This was back in 1990-1991 & the league responded that they had zero interest in the market. Colangelo then built the America West Arena with a floor plan that couldn't accommodate hockey.

Sorry I mean….. what makes it not good for hockey? How can a stadium have poor sight lines. For hockey.


The upper seats don’t change. It just doesn’t make sense.

Yeah, who gives a shit that Matthews and Knies are from there and may not be playing for the Leafs had the Coyotes not existed. Good riddance.

Laugh away, but takes like this are the biggest joke.

??? 2 hockey players from phoenix does not at all justify lost revenue….

As a leafs fan I would easily give up Matthews and knies for the league not to have a crazy laughing stock and lose millions

 

[Pink Mist]

Yeah, who gives a shit that Matthews and Knies are from there and may not be playing for the Leafs had the Coyotes not existed. Good riddance.

Laugh away, but takes like this are the biggest joke.

That's not a reason to support a team that has been on its death bed for decades

 

[Voight]

Gary will still jump through hoops and find a way to justify keeping them in Phoenix...

 

[Laus723]

What the hell? The franchise shouldn't exist forever because a couple players are from there. That's insane.

With that said, I'm sorry for the fans. But it is time.

Do you actually know the reasons why they’ve had some of the troubles they’ve had? Issues between ownership and the city they played in? How does their existence actually affect you, or anyone else.

And what the bell what? Not just any player, one of the best scorers (regular season atm anyway) in the league is from there and he likely may not be playing if not for the Coyotes.

Point is, all this glee and carrying on is terribly short sighted and uneducated. I’d venture to guess that 80-90% of people cheerful don’t really know why they’re cheerful, just f*** the desert team. But Vegas is ok, they’re not really a desert.

 

[Jee]

Sad for the fans, but it's time to pull the plug.

 

[Laus723]

That's not a reason to support a team that has been on its death bed for decades

But it’s a reason for people to cheer its demise? You went through and laughed at posts where u called such people assholes. It’s very short sighted.

 

[Peasy]

Yeah, who gives a shit that Matthews and Knies are from there and may not be playing for the Leafs had the Coyotes not existed. Good riddance.

Laugh away, but takes like this are the biggest joke.

Nah pretending like everything was fine in Arizona and would work out is the biggest joke.

Ever since they got that new owner, everything was a straight tire fire.

The amount of mental gymnastics some people did to defend the dude was hilarious.

 

[Pink Mist]

But it’s a reason for people to cheer its demise? You went through and laughed at posts where u called such people assholes. It’s very short sighted.

It's good for the league for this team to finally die. So yes, I am celebrating