Coyotes Tempe arena project rejected by public referendum - will remain at Mullett Arena for 2023-24

[Laus723]

Sorry I mean….. what makes it not good for hockey? How can a stadium have poor sight lines. For hockey.


The upper seats don’t change. It just doesn’t make sense.



??? 2 hockey players from phoenix does not at all justify lost revenue….

As a leafs fan I would easily give up Matthews and knies for the league not to have a crazy laughing stock and lose millions

Lmao, them losing millions affects you how?

 

[Frenchy]

Quebec city, welcome to your new team!

Forget about it , it will never happend . I dont think the NHL likes PKP and one thing is for sure, PKP is lacking long run vision about this project therefore dont want to pay what he should to get a franchise.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Sad thing is this is going to be IMO like the Nordiques to Colorado in success. Not first year but is there a better team setup for the future than the Coyotes with ownership willing to spend? Most cap space in the league, top prospect pool in the league with several very good players already on the roster. And look at the number of top 90 picks the next few seasons.

Very similar to the Kraken where it might take a few years but they are going to suddenly come out of no where. They might become my bandwagon team to be honest.

 

[Laus723]

It's good for the league for this team to finally die. So yes, I am celebrating

Good how? The city and ownership were embroiled in bullshit for good lengths of time, those things can get figured out.

You hon a start cheering if people don’t start showing back up to Winnipeg and they have to move…again?

 

[AvroArrow]

Salt Lake City or Quebec City please.

 

[Legion34]

Lmao, them losing millions affects you how?

It affects the league. It’s a hard cap HRR revenue league.
The coyotes are a major reason the cap isn’t jumping this year.

Fans of teams that care and pay are stuck in this flat cap

 

[Shwan]

Sorry I mean….. what makes it not good for hockey? How can a stadium have poor sight lines. For hockey.


The upper seats don’t change. It just doesn’t make sense.

I'm super excited to show you this!

So the people up top couldn't see the play in front of the goalie and the people down below all probably have terrible tinnitus by now.

 

[Voight]

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Forget about it , it will never happend . I dont think the NHL likes PKP and one thing is for sure, PKP is lacking long run vision about this project therefore dont want to pay what he should to get a franchise.

And, I won't expand too much on that, PKP's views (just look at the tangent his newspapers are taking) do not sit well with very powerful people who have a direct line to Bettman and co.

Quebec City is not happening with PKP at the helm... and it is not happening without as his company controls the arena. Unless the City is ready to compensate him for the arena deal... and then another buyer emerges....

Plus, the guy just bought the sinking ship that is the Montreal Alouettes.

 

[Tuggy]

They have tried and tried and tried...

Sometimes things just don't work out. Time to pull the plug.

 

[Legion34]

I'm super excited to show you this!

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So the people up top couldn't see the play in front of the goalie and the people down below all probably have terrible tinnitus by now.

Oh so it’s super flat? I guess hockey needs to be more of a Birds Eye view.

Interesting. I couldn’t picture it

Thank you

 

[Voight]

Jokes aside, it’s hard to go this deep and have it all depend on a referendum, lose the referendum convincingly, and then double down yet again. At some point there’s an actual stop to the efforts.

The sunk cost fallacy has to end at some point.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

"...as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, it'll be a home run, so that'l make it a 4 to nothing ball game..."

 

[Pink Mist]

Good how? The city and ownership were embroiled in bullshit for good lengths of time, those things can get figured out.

You hon a start cheering if people don’t start showing back up to Winnipeg and they have to move…again?

It's been over 15 years of bullshit. You have to stop excusing the bullshit at some point

The Coyotes struggling is a major reason the cap has hardly moved in years. That is bad for the league

 

[Scouter]

Yeah, but they knew this before the end of May as far as I know.

Well it's still before the end of May now, team could be moved in the next couple of weeks, the NHL have already had meetings with other cities, as I said before they have their bases covered in the event something like this happens, if people are buying that the NHL doesn't know what to do now then they don't know what's up.

 

[Not The One]

Guys, the Nordiques aren’t coming back. Too much money in too many other markets for Bettman to even consider Quebec. I’d love to see a Battle of Quebec in my lifetime but that ship sailed IMO

Because they are making SO MUCH money in Arizona...

How much profit has this franchise generated in the last 20 years?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Sorry I mean….. what makes it not good for hockey? How can a stadium have poor sight lines. For hockey.


The upper seats don’t change. It just doesn’t make sense.

Take a look at these two photos. Barclays in Brooklyn was built similarly to the Suns arena....assymmetrical where one side has a loge level that overhangs the ice in a hockey set up. They were built without considering a hockey team as a full time tenant.

America West in Phoenix...

Barclays in Brooklyn...

In both cases there are thousands of seats with obstructed views of the ice. Not a problem for basketball, however.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I'd love to see Milwaukee get a team some day.

 

[Voight]

The only 3 options for relocation that have had indicated interest in NHL recently + NHL ready arena would be

Houston
Salt Lake City
Quebec City

Houston is ideal and SLC in longterm is growing market

QC has failed twice already and according to logic from our neighbors to north that means you cant try a 3rd time or is that only Atlanta that logic is applied to?

Houston Aeros set to finally join NHL 44 years after rejection?

Terrible night for Yote fans but NHL/Yoters ownership have limited options at this point if any going forward now

Quebecs first team folded almost. hundred years ago. Thats a little different than Atlanta.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Solution: State Farm Stadium. 41 winter classics a year?

 

[Not The One]

Supposedly the Coyotes were outspent eight to one in marketing for this referendum. You can't win a war you're not willing to fight. Maybe they thought they would walk to the polls. Terribly disappointing for Coyotes fans. Wonder how Bettman's going to keep them in Arizona now.

Just the 100th excuse they are giving in this sorry saga.

People there WANT to keep the team, it's the team's fault they didn't spend enough.

 

[hangman005]

Sorry I mean….. what makes it not good for hockey? How can a stadium have poor sight lines. For hockey.


The upper seats don’t change. It just doesn’t make sense.

This was a picture From Barclays which is a basketball arena, that tried to cater to hockey, Just as one example.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Do you actually know the reasons why they’ve had some of the troubles they’ve had? Issues between ownership and the city they played in? How does their existence actually affect you, or anyone else.

And what the bell what? Not just any player, one of the best scorers (regular season atm anyway) in the league is from there and he likely may not be playing if not for the Coyotes.

Point is, all this glee and carrying on is terribly short sighted and uneducated. I’d venture to guess that 80-90% of people cheerful don’t really know why they’re cheerful, just f*** the desert team. But Vegas is ok, they’re not really a desert.

This is completely absurd and nothing but delusional cope. I don't have anything against the Coyotes and their existence doesn't bother me, but this is a hockey forum and this is a franchise that's been in the dumps forever, to the point where they're now playing in a college rink with no arena in sight.

Pretending that one great player coming from there is of any relevance is just stupid.

 

[Laus723]

It's been over 15 years of bullshit. You have to stop excusing the bullshit at some point

The Coyotes struggling is a major reason the cap has hardly moved in years. That is bad for the league

It affects the league. It’s a hard cap HRR revenue league.
The coyotes are a major reason the cap isn’t jumping this year.

Fans of teams that care and pay are stuck in this flat cap

It’s a hard cap because of Covid, I haven’t seen anything directly tying the continued hard cap to Arizona.
Frankly, the cap isn’t going to go up now if they play in Houston, Quebec, etc next year anyway. And the cap will still go up next year.

Still, if Winnipeg doesn’t start to get fans back, you gonna pull for them to move?

 

[miscs75]

This was a picture From Barclays which is a basketball arena, that tried to cater to hockey, Just as one example.

They proposed fixes to make it more suitable to hockey and everything was shot down. They never wanted the Islanders there from the start. That place was about as big of a disaster as the John Spano circus. The only thing good about Barclays was that the train was a block away.