Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part X

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The last few days seeing the actions and words of people in general my hope for humanity to survive this is low. There isn't enough middle ground on anything. You have one side who wants everything shutdown and other side who thinks nothing should be done. All that it has done is caused is a lot of in-fighting and people being rude to each other.

My faith in humanity is zero at this point. At the beginning of this I had hoped it would bring people together and people would work together to get through this. Instead here we are with skyrocketing cases with higher positivity rate higher then in the frost wave. The worst part is how little people care. Look at all the people out and about as if there is no pandemic or a lockdown.

I'm past feeling angry or sad. I just don't feel anything for anyone else.
 
A 41 yr old US congressman elect passed away from COVID. This is a 2nd high profile (to my knowledge) person to pass away; the other was a prime minister i think of one of the african countries

U.S. Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dead from COVID-19 at age 41

Luke Letlow, who was only 41 and had no known underlying health conditions, died Tuesday night at Ochsner-LSU Health Shreveport -- days before he was scheduled to be sworn into office, according to his spokesman Andrew Bautsch. Bautsch asked for privacy for Letlow's family "during this difficult and unexpected time."


Anyone who is still skeptical that covid only impacts "older people" i recommend you read the article
 
There were no anti-maskers in Wuhan. They still had to crash build new hospitals overnight due to a flooding of covid cases.

To suggest that they didn't mask up in early december when there was flat out hysteria regarding covid is intellectually dishonest. So why almost 2 months later were their hospitals still flooded?

i haven’t said a word about Wuhan. I don’t think any of us know the reality of what happened there and when.

I was responding to the poster who said he got Covid while wearing a mask.

I was explaining how it is very likely to happen if someone who is Covid positive doesn’t wear a mask even if he does.
 
Selfish actions huh? Like what? Wanting to earn a living and see their family? Have you sacrificed your income?

like posting how masks are useless... or suggesting it’s ok to go against medical guidance for your own pleasure because well, people die all the time.... that sort of selfish stuff.
 
like posting how masks are useless... or suggesting it’s ok to go against medical guidance for your own pleasure because well, people die all the time.... that sort of selfish stuff.
People do for all the time. Welcome to reality. Masks don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't be locking down again. This is really simple. Ppl that wear masks all the time still contract the virus.
 
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People do for all the time. Welcome to reality. Masks don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't be locking down again. This is really simple. Ppl that wear masks all the time still contract the virus.

right. People who wear masks still get the virus.

correct.

because masks protect others from you.

If you are wearing a mask in a room with a Covid positive person who isn’t wearing one, your odds of getting it are as high as 80%.

but if that Covid positive person wears a mask and you do too, your odds drop to 1.5%.

that’s what the science tells us.

because of asymptomatic spread, it is absolutely critical that everyone wear a mask.

your nonsense about not wearing masks puts people at risk and folks out of business.
 
A 41 yr old US congressman elect passed away from COVID. This is a 2nd high profile (to my knowledge) person to pass away; the other was a prime minister i think of one of the african countries

U.S. Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dead from COVID-19 at age 41

Luke Letlow, who was only 41 and had no known underlying health conditions, died Tuesday night at Ochsner-LSU Health Shreveport -- days before he was scheduled to be sworn into office, according to his spokesman Andrew Bautsch. Bautsch asked for privacy for Letlow's family "during this difficult and unexpected time."


Anyone who is still skeptical that covid only impacts "older people" i recommend you read the article
A Canadian senator from Alberta died yesterday, age 74.
 
If you knowingly put yourself and others at risk, shame is a good word.

CDC said mask wearers can still get Covid.

Absolutely. Correct. No argument.

As has been shared with you, this happens most frequently when you come in contact with a Covid positive person who is not wearing a mask.

Masks protect others from you, not you from others.

The science is clear. Being ignorant to the data is a choice.

But since your choice can influence others, I would ask you respectfully to stop spreading nonsense about masks that either you don’t want to or simply can’t understand.
 
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The last few days seeing the actions and words of people in general my hope for humanity to survive this is low. There isn't enough middle ground on anything. You have one side who wants everything shutdown and other side who thinks nothing should be done. All that it has done is caused is a lot of in-fighting and people being rude to each other.

My faith in humanity is zero at this point. At the beginning of this I had hoped it would bring people together and people would work together to get through this. Instead here we are with skyrocketing cases with higher positivity rate higher then in the frost wave. The worst part is how little people care. Look at all the people out and about as if there is no pandemic or a lockdown.

I'm past feeling angry or sad. I just don't feel anything for anyone else.

have faith.

there are less of them then the rest of us. Just louder in their ignorance.
 
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If you knowingly put yourself and others at risk, shame is a good word.

CDC said mask wearers can still get Covid.

Absolutely. Correct. No argument.

As has been shared with you, this happens most frequently when you come in contact with a Covid positive person who is not wearing a mask.

Masks protect others from you, not you from others.

The science is clear. Being ignorant to the data is a choice.

But since your choice can influence others, I would ask you respectfully to stop spreading nonsense about masks that either you don’t want to or simply can’t understand.
I'll ask again..... You putting ppl at risk driving?
How many ppl have you given the flu? Nobody wants to get other ppl sick. The fact you think you have control of a virus is adorable though.

Life is dangerous. You take calculated risks 100 times a day. This isn't your college with safe spaces and cry rooms.
 
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I am up for respecting privacy as long as it doesn't cause significant harm; covid is the exception! And they are only asking to show "covid" test NOT every medical condition.
Ahh the exception....

It's that easy to make ppl hand over their rights. Next will be you can't work here unless you're vaccinated.... Or your kids can't go to school here...
 
I am up for respecting privacy as long as it doesn't cause significant harm; covid is the exception! And they are only asking to show "covid" test NOT every medical condition.
Total deaths are not up. That's what we really need to look at. WHO stopped recording influenza numbers.... They're juicing the covid case numbers with the flu. We should see a sharp increase in total deaths. Were not. We're bankrupting ppl while running the average deaths totals. It makes no sense. And the only ones advocating for lockdowns haven't sacrificed a thing financially it seems. Easy to let other ppl starve to help yourself.
 
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Total deaths are not up. That's what we really need to look at. WHO stopped recording influenza numbers.... They're juicing the covid case numbers with the flu. We should see a sharp increase in total deaths. Were not. We're bankrupting ppl while running the average deaths totals. It makes no sense. And the only ones advocating for lockdowns haven't sacrificed a thing financially it seems. Easy to let other ppl starve to help yourself.

You can yell your theories from the rooftops; I will put my faith in people with medical degrees who have invested years of their lives in studying such phenomenon.

take care.

Please wear a mask, social distance and protect your fellow citizens

Thanks!
 
I'll ask again..... You putting ppl at risk driving?
How many ppl have you given the flu? Nobody wants to get other ppl sick. The fact you think you have control of a virus is adorable though.

Life is dangerous. You take calculated risks 100 times a day. This isn't your college with safe spaces and cry rooms.

safe spaces and cry rooms??

you want to see a cry room? Go to an ICU where patients are dying alone.

life is dangerous. It’s a shame that you choose to live it so selfishly and shorten it for others.

You think that it’s hysteria that has caused businesses to close. Nope.

the ICU’s are in a danger of being overrun. As a direct result of callous actions fuelled by ignorance like the kind you profess.

that’s why businesses are restricted.

simple.

I hope others see the fallacy in your stance before they too infect someone.
 
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Total deaths are not up. That's what we really need to look at. WHO stopped recording influenza numbers.... They're juicing the covid case numbers with the flu. We should see a sharp increase in total deaths. Were not. We're bankrupting ppl while running the average deaths totals. It makes no sense. And the only ones advocating for lockdowns haven't sacrificed a thing financially it seems. Easy to let other ppl starve to help yourself.

oh I see it now.

you are one of these guys who thinks that coroners the world over are falsifying death records in some conspiracy.

fun.

if you could convince the anti-maskers at the next rally to man up and do what’s right, businesses wouldn’t have to close.

your choice.
 
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i haven’t said a word about Wuhan. I don’t think any of us know the reality of what happened there and when.

I was responding to the poster who said he got Covid while wearing a mask.

I was explaining how it is very likely to happen if someone who is Covid positive doesn’t wear a mask even if he does.
But the reality IS that everyone masked up very very early in Wuhan. Things still got so bad that they had to crash build new hospitals and force literal house arrest.

So it's silly for you to say "If everyone followed the rules my kids would still have a job". Everyone DID follow the rules in Wuhan. They barely helped.

People have a GREATLY exaggerated viewpoint on the effectiveness of these measures. They're supposed to slightly... slightly... decrease spread so as to flatten the curve. This gave people like you a false sense of such policy's effectiveness.
 
oh I see it now.

you are one of these guys who thinks that coroners the world over are falsifying death records in some conspiracy.

fun.

if you could convince the anti-maskers at the next rally to man up and do what’s right, businesses wouldn’t have to close.

your choice.
How long should it take for a Covid related death to be reported.
 
Almost 3000 new cases today despite the lockdown measures.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...community spread is being driven primarily by private gatherings. There are many people that are not abiding by the provincial health guidelines in their residences.

Small businesses were not a significant factor in community spread and yet they are paying the price.
 
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