Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part X
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BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
On the surface it seems the costs outweigh the benefits. That is, the prevention of cases seems minimized in comparison to the disruption it would cause.
Granted I need a lot more detail and information to look into it.
BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
Good analogy, except I think in this case it's more than one tree they're trying to save from burning. At the same time there are other parts of the forest getting hit.
Sensmileletsgo
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Québec did it let’s see if things get better there; if not then people are gonna be people and being responsible is not a thing anymore
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To be fair though, Halton's politicians have taken an anti-lockdown, pro-business position right from the start.
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what costs are you thinking of though?
We aren’t supposed to be visiting other households now. What is someone doing out at 11pm then if not one of these exemptions?
these are the Quebec exemptions:
- Going out to walk the dog
- A person whose presence in the workplace is essential
- A person who must obtain the necessary medications following a medial appointment
- A person who must go to or return from a hospital, a clinic or a dentist's office
- A person who must visit a sick or injured parent
- A student who must participate in a face-to-face evening class or go to a laboratory in a recognized school
- A person returning home on a night flight from a work-related trip abroad
- A parent who must accompany a sick child to the hospital
- A parent who must accompany an adolescent to his work
PromisedLand
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Actually the study says that one can still get infected after getting the vaccines; only thing is that their immune response would not be severe so as to kill them or require hospitalizations.
Vaccine kind of acts like antihistamines with allergies
Killing vs not killing is more than just a choice. Way to simplify things right down to fit a narrative
PromisedLand
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I am not thick enough to believe that economy > health. Without solid health and positive mental health economy will not flourish anyway
there is a reason for a saying “Health is wealth”
What’s the point of becoming a millionaire and then having lung issues for the rest of your life living with an oxygen tank.
People aren't seeing it that way imo. It's more like "well I probably won't get really sick from this so who cares"
They don't see the consequences of their actions because it's not directly impacting them or immediately obvious
Goes to visit friends without social distancing and catches covid. They are fine but spread it to others unknowlingly. It's blood on their hands that they will never see.
Now if their actions killed their own mothers or fathers, the regret/guilt they would feel is immense.
Just a complete lack of perspective
The Hanging Jowl
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You're thinking the city/town mayors. The police are regional and they've done their share of Covid preaching.
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I live in Quebec and I am still trying to understand the logic in a curfew. Are they trying to stop the spread or give it to more people by forcing people to shop during a small time window? I can't speak for everyone, but we have many 24/7 stores and I often do what little bit of shopping I need to do at off peak hours 9-10PM. I do this specifically to avoid people and limit my exposure as much as possible. Last night at around 7PM I went to my local depanneur to get some milk. At 10PM you are lucky if more than 3 people are shopping, yet it was packed . Safe to say I turned around and went home.
Sensmileletsgo
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Yes that’s become a covid lockdown narrative for sure. A lot of people I can’t talk to about covid because the conversation goes straight to “but it lead to more spread and more people will die.”
That’s not what he said though. He said he doesn’t want to risk getting sick or dying because of the economy. He’s free to do that.
The Hanging Jowl
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Not everyone skeptical of our covid measures thinks like that. Some of us are just questioning the usefulness of lockdowns and weighing covid safety against possible greater damage done from the restrictions. I doubt a large percentage of people are as simplistic as thinking "I'll be fine so screw everyone else."
If you've ever been around anyone in your life when you had the flu or a cold, you've likely contributed in some small way to someone dying. Except for the higher infection rate, there's nothing unique about covid in this regard.
I think this goes beyond shopping on off hours. People are not social distancing and regularly hanging out with friends/family that they shouldn't be. I work at a covid assessment center and the number of good people that arent following the rules is very high. The curfew is meant to minimize this kind of behaviour I think. Can't eliminate it unfortunately
The Hanging Jowl
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I'm going to assume the theory behind the curfew is it stops people from socially gathering either in public or at one another's houses.
The issue with that is that this hasn't been a true lockdown. The government failed because it was not strict enough with restrictions and still f***ed the economy. And people failed because they didn't follow the guidelines.
And i don't mean that they are actively/consciously thinking like that. But they are taking calculated risks without realizing the true extent of the consequences
This is on a whole different scale than just a cold or even the flu though, man. It's also higher mortality. For the record, prior to covid, I didn't visit families/friends when I wassick, nor did i go to work if unwell. If it was just a runny nose and I HAD to go in to work, I'd wear a mask my all shift
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That’s fine, if you’re high risk you should do that, but don’t expect everyone to share share in your fear.
Sensmileletsgo
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Lol ya why did you comment on my post in the first place? I’m lost as well.
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