Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part X

[yubbers]

You can yell your theories from the rooftops; I will put my faith in people with medical degrees who have invested years of their lives in studying such phenomenon.

take care.

Please wear a mask, social distance and protect your fellow citizens

Thanks!

Please give up your car to protect your fellow citizens then. You cool with that deal?

 

[Confucius]

actually yep.

COVID-19: Status of Cases in Toronto

Where is the home in your link? Is it lumped in with shelters?

 

[yubbers]

Almost 3000 new cases today despite the lockdown measures.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...community spread is being driven primarily by private gatherings. There are many people that are not abiding by the provincial health guidelines in their residences.

Small businesses were not a significant factor in community spread and yet they are paying the price.

You can't control a virus. See Sweden. They're doing fine.

 

[yubbers]

A 41 yr old US congressman elect passed away from COVID. This is a 2nd high profile (to my knowledge) person to pass away; the other was a prime minister i think of one of the african countries

U.S. Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dead from COVID-19 at age 41

Luke Letlow, who was only 41 and had no known underlying health conditions, died Tuesday night at Ochsner-LSU Health Shreveport -- days before he was scheduled to be sworn into office, according to his spokesman Andrew Bautsch. Bautsch asked for privacy for Letlow's family "during this difficult and unexpected time."


Anyone who is still skeptical that covid only impacts "older people" i recommend you read the article

Died of a heart attack after surgery actually. I can find you one offs of 21 year olds that died of heart attacks too.

 

[yubbers]

safe spaces and cry rooms??

you want to see a cry room? Go to an ICU where patients are dying alone.

life is dangerous. It’s a shame that you choose to live it so selfishly and shorten it for others.

You think that it’s hysteria that has caused businesses to close. Nope.

the ICU’s are in a danger of being overrun. As a direct result of callous actions fuelled by ignorance like the kind you profess.

that’s why businesses are restricted.

simple.

I hope others see the fallacy in your stance before they too infect someone.

Ppl die in ICUs everyday homie. Welcome to life. I suggest you dig into Ontario annual deaths.

They've been in danger of being overrun for a year now. Funny how it never happens though. How many times to the gaslighters in the press need to get caught lying until you get it?

 

[yubbers]

Airport security going through my luggage violates my privacy too but it's a price to pay for travelling

Can you show me where the luggage privacy law is? Lirl. Nonsense comparable. It's really amazing to watch ppl just be ok with teh government breaking their own laws. Wow.
The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA) - Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada

 

[Pookie]

Ppl die in ICUs everyday homie. Welcome to life. I suggest you dig into Ontario annual deaths.

They've been in danger of being overrun for a year now. Funny how it never happens though. How many times to the gaslighters in the press need to get caught lying until you get it?

They die everyday. 280,000 Canadians die every year.

If Covid were allowed to rip in a flat earth "natural" herd immunity plan, we'd have at least 370,000.

I know you don't care. That much is evident.

Why do you bother posting?

I mean you offer nothing to the discussion other than trying to get a rise out of folks.

The economy won't recover until the virus is under control, have you got a plan for that?

No, eh?

So basically, there are no ideas... just conspiracy theories and some mis-construed sense of "freedom."

 

[yubbers]

They die everyday. 280,000 Canadians die every year.

If Covid were allowed to rip in a flat earth "natural" herd immunity plan, we'd have at least 370,000.

I know you don't care. That much is evident.

Why do you bother posting?

I mean you offer nothing to the discussion other than trying to get a rise out of folks.

The economy won't recover until the virus is under control, have you got a plan for that?

No, eh?

So basically, there are no ideas... just conspiracy theories and some mis-construed sense of "freedom."

I care. You just don't like ppl that can refute your NPC talking points

You keep dodging the car question. Hahaha.

If? Notice how you're always selling imaginary fear? Sweden didn't lockdown. Now go look at their total deaths. In the last 10 years of total deaths 2020 is #7 o the list. Whoops. So ignore actual results wile selling your imaginary hypotheticals.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/

 

[Pookie]

Where is the home in your link? Is it lumped in with shelters?

Under "epidemiological summary of cases"... sources of spread.... "close contact" at 56.3%.

Shelters are lumped in with "Institutional" spread at 3.4%

 

[Pookie]

I care. You just don't like ppl that can refute your NPC talking points

You keep dodging the car question. Hahaha.

If? Notice how you're always selling imaginary fear? Sweden didn't lockdown. Now go look at their total deaths. In the last 10 years of total deaths 2020 is #7 in death totals.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/

The car question is a silly question.

There are guidelines for driving a car. I must be licensed, my car has to pass safety inspections, I can't drive drunk or high, I must follow the government's rules regarding side of the road to drive on and other traffic rules. I must wear a seat belt.

And if I disobey any of those I face fines and/or prison.

Why do you think you can disregard public health guidelines yet follow the rules of the road?

Sweden... the place with more death than it's neighbours and and economic downturn like the rest of us... great example.

Oh, this just hit the wire.

Sweden recommends masks for rush hour, as COVID-19 deaths hit record

 

[yubbers]

And yes I have a plan for the economy. OPEN IT THE f*** UP. lirl.

You also haven't answered the question of your pay. You haven't missed a beat have you? The pro shutdown ppl are always the ones still getting paid.

 

[yubbers]

The car question is a silly question.

There are guidelines for driving a car. I must be licensed, my car has to pass safety inspections, I can't drive drunk or high, I must follow the government's rules regarding side of the road to drive on and other traffic rules. I must wear a seat belt.

And if I disobey any of those I face fines and/or prison.

Why do you think you can disregard public health guidelines yet follow the rules of the road?

Sweden... the place with more death than it's neighbours and and economic downturn like the rest of us... great example.

Oh, this just hit the wire.

Sweden recommends masks for rush hour, as COVID-19 deaths hit record

No it isn't. Motor vehicle deaths kill many every year. If I can just wear a mask you can just walk no? For the safety of others. If you're under 60 you have a higher % chance dying in a car crash than Covid. So why are you driving? You're scared of something you have a lower % chance of dying from? That makes no sense.

As usual, you respond with feels and no data. Did you see their total deaths over the last 10 years? Covid saved ppl did it? Explain how 7 of the past 10 years had more deaths than the pandemic year of 2020. I'll wait.

 

[Pookie]

And yes I have a plan for the economy. OPEN IT THE f*** UP. lirl.

You also haven't answered the question of your pay. You haven't missed a beat have you? The pro shutdown ppl are always the ones still getting paid.

Sigh. I'm pro-business. And when you have a virus that shuts down the economy, you need to get rid of the virus to re-open it.

Throwing up an Open sign in a restaurant when people are passing a virus around isn't really good for business is it...?

 

[yubbers]

Sigh. I'm pro-business. And when you have a virus that shuts down the economy, you need to get rid of the virus to re-open it.

Throwing up an Open sign in a restaurant when people are passing a virus around isn't really good for business is it...?

So that's a yes It's real easy to call for it when you're not making any financial sacrifices. Yet you call me selfish. Hahahaha. Now that's irony. You're happy to watch other ppl bleed out so you can feel safe while still getting paid.

Not everyone is as terrified as you are. I would gladly visit the restaurant. Because since the day I was born the potential to get sick at a restaurant has been on the menu.

 

[stealth1]

And yes I have a plan for the economy. OPEN IT THE f*** UP. lirl.

You also haven't answered the question of your pay. You haven't missed a beat have you? The pro shutdown ppl are always the ones still getting paid.

I'm pretty sure nobody wants shutdowns. The economy was open all summer and fall. Then cases started rising as well as positivity rate. We can't just do nothing.

 

[yubbers]

You're being gaslit into oblivion. Sweden is a PRIME example. It's so easy to bait ppl into screaming about how bad Sweden is because CBC and CNN told you. Here's reality. 7 of the past 10 years have had MORE deaths.

 

[yubbers]

I'm pretty sure nobody wants shutdowns. The economy was open all summer and fall. Then cases started rising as well as positivity rate. We can't just do nothing.

We can actually. See above

 

[yubbers]

Ontario total deaths growing at the rate expected.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/568028/number-of-deaths-in-ontario-canada/

And we've cured the flu somehow. Funny that.

 

[yubbers]

For the record, I wear a mask where I have to That doesn't mean I have to like it. I was actually in ER at Mt Sinai today for 5 hrs....it sucked. They still Covid swabbed me for a neck injury. lirl. They shove that thing halfway to your brain!

 

[Pookie]

No it isn't. Motor vehicle deaths kill many every year. If I can just wear a mask you can just walk no? For the safety of others. If you're under 60 you have a higher % chance dying in a car crash than Covid. So why are you driving? You're scared of something you have a lower % chance of dying from? That makes no sense.

As usual, you respond with feels and no data. Did you see their total deaths over the last 10 years? Covid saved ppl did it? Explain how 7 of the past 10 years had more deaths than the pandemic year of 2020. I'll wait.

Who said I'm scared? You?

Please, I'm being responsible because I have a father with end stage liver disease. He likely only has a few months to live and he doesn't want to die alone in an ICU. He also doesn't want to pass it on to my mom, his wife of over 50 years.

You know absolutely nothing about me so please, don't make Tucker Carlson assumptions. It might be a novel concept but I actually care about my impact on others.

As for Sweden's overall death rate, what a weird argument.

Only about 7% of Swedes have experienced the disease. And their death rate is 6x that of neighbouring Finland.

If you actually let this rip, we would see over 100,000 Swedes die of the die of the disease... eclipsing any annual number.

And in Sweden, there are calls for mask use. As they realize they have a real sh*tshow on their hands.

 

[Pookie]

Ontario total deaths growing at the rate expected.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/568028/number-of-deaths-in-ontario-canada/

And we've cured the flu somehow. Funny that.

Masks

 

[stealth1]

Ontario total deaths growing at the rate expected.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/568028/number-of-deaths-in-ontario-canada/

And we've cured the flu somehow. Funny that.

At this point none of what you are saying is going to change anything. I have learned deal with it and live your life. It sucks how it's affecting so many but that's the fault of the virus not the government.

 

[yubbers]

At this point none of what you are saying is going to change anything. I have learned deal with it and live your life. It sucks how it's affecting so many but that's the fault of the virus not the government.

The virus isn't ticketing legal business owners and letting criminals out of jail.

The government is We're on a very slippery slope my friend. They want to divide us. We need to stick together and not fight each other. That's the plan. We're under attack imho.

 

[Pookie]

So that's a yes It's real easy to call for it when you're not making any financial sacrifices. Yet you call me selfish. Hahahaha. Now that's irony. You're happy to watch other ppl bleed out so you can feel safe while still getting paid.

Not everyone is as terrified as you are. I would gladly visit the restaurant. Because since the day I was born the potential to get sick at a restaurant has been on the menu.

Nope. I do my part so that we can reopen.

I don't encourage others to break the rules and we have been staying isolated to our immediate family.

What are you doing to help businesses reopen?

 

[yubbers]

Masks

So masks cured the flu but somehow Covid still thrives requiring more lockdowns? How can Covid cases continue to climb but flu cases have gone to zero? That makes no sense. WHO stopped recording Influenza entirely ffs.