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We just finished Slow Horses, and I’m immediately sad that there’s not another season available right now. It’s one of the best shows I’ve seen recently.

Next we’re starting For All Mankind. Gotta get the most out of my free Apple TV trial.
 

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We just finished Slow Horses, and I’m immediately sad that there’s not another season available right now. It’s one of the best shows I’ve seen recently.

Next we’re starting For All Mankind. Gotta get the most out of my free Apple TV trial.
The first season is amazing, 2nd season is great, then it starts to stutter a bit but levels out and is enjoyable. Hoping S5 ticks up a bit (they started filming a few months ago).
 

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We just finished Slow Horses, and I’m immediately sad that there’s not another season available right now. It’s one of the best shows I’ve seen recently.

Next we’re starting For All Mankind. Gotta get the most out of my free Apple TV trial.
I’m a few episodes in on @Its Always Sundstrom recommendation. Seemed to start pretty slow but the acting was really good.
 

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Been watching movies to break up some long work days in front of the computer:

Saw Trap. Was really fun and worth watching, obviously absurd but the most Hitchcock-like thing I've seen since Parasite. Good for M. Night to get back in the win column. If he could only stay there.

Also if you're into old samurai movies, Sword of Doom f***in rules.

A movie that was not very good was Rosemary's Baby. Talk about dated and silly.
 

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Been watching movies to break up some long work days in front of the computer:

Saw Trap. Was really fun and worth watching, obviously absurd but the most Hitchcock-like thing I've seen since Parasite. Good for M. Night to get back in the win column. If he could only stay there.

Also if you're into old samurai movies, Sword of Doom f***in rules.

A movie that was not very good was Rosemary's Baby. Talk about dated and silly.
Rosemary’s Baby was very good. It’s a creature of its time but that’s what it has to be evaluated against.
 

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Rosemary’s Baby was very good. It’s a creature of its time but that’s what it has to be evaluated against.
Think it aged like milk. Mia Farrow's performance was very good and I'm a huge John Cassavettes fan, but it's pretty rough these days. I see why it resonated, but unlike The Shining, The Exorcist or even The Omen movies, it's just a little too clunky for me. The score, the dialogue, the setups, etc.
 
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Think it aged like milk. Mia Farrow's performance was very good and I'm a huge John Cassavettes fan, but it's pretty rough these days. I see why it resonated, but unlike The Shining, The Exorcist or even The Omen movies, it's just a little too clunky for me. The score, the dialogue, the setups, etc.
Tell me a better movie filmed in that era covering the same subject matter? You are comparing it to movies made much later. Of course they hold up better. You have no obligation to like it and I don’t put it in the same tier as the thr movies you named but that’s not shaming it. It’s like saying Casino isn’t as good as the Godfather movies or Good Fellas.

Edit: my analogy only works on one level. A better analogy would be that Dracula with Lugosi wasn’t as good as the one with Gary Oldman or what I expect from the upcoming Nosferatu. Older movies have technical disadvantages combined with less to draw upon.
 
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Been watching movies to break up some long work days in front of the computer:

Saw Trap. Was really fun and worth watching, obviously absurd but the most Hitchcock-like thing I've seen since Parasite. Good for M. Night to get back in the win column. If he could only stay there.

Also if you're into old samurai movies, Sword of Doom f***in rules.

A movie that was not very good was Rosemary's Baby. Talk about dated and silly.
I’m an M Night fan but his movies can be pretty hit or miss for me. Liked Sixth Sense, Signs, Unbreakable, Split but didn’t like the Village, Lady in the Water, The Happenining. For me Trap falls into the later, dispite absolutely loving the intial trailer. I feel like they gave away too much of the plot and the major twist. Was hoping for more.
 

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Tell me a better movie filmed in that era covering the same subject matter? You are comparing it to movies made much later. Of course they hold up better. You have no obligation to like it and I don’t put it in the same tier as the thr movies you named but that’s not shaming it. It’s like saying Casino isn’t as good as the Godfather movies or Good Fellas.

Edit: my analogy only works on one level. A better analogy would be that Dracula with Lugosi wasn’t as good as the one with Gary Oldman or what I expect from the upcoming Nosferatu. Older movies have technical disadvantages combined with less to draw upon.
I get what you're saying. I guess I feel that, even accepting for the era, it still feels like it doesn't have many redeeming qualities. I think I would've been just as disappointed in 1968 as now. I don't compare Psycho or Rear Window to LA Confidential, Parasite, etc. but, despite the old school Hollywood aspects, they still have a lot of power years later. Ditto for the original silent Nosferatu.

I also realize now I'm not a huge Polanski fan - Chinatown is another one, that while I think it's a good movie, I don't think it's as good as its reputation.

I’m an M Night fan but his movies can be pretty hit or miss for me. Liked Sixth Sense, Signs, Unbreakable, Split but didn’t like the Village, Lady in the Water, The Happenining. For me Trap falls into the later, dispite absolutely loving the intial trailer. I feel like they gave away too much of the plot and the major twist. Was hoping for more.
Yeah, I went in cold, not knowing anything. So I was very charmed by the premise and how it unfolded.
I think it's very cool how we're rooting for him though we catch on to his secret and then the movie flips back to the traditional mode of rooting against him in the final 1/3rd.
Like you, I was not a fan of the exact same M. Night films except for this one.

These days I try not to read about stuff ahead of time and I enjoy things a lot more. After the fact, I've read a lot of people complaining but it didn't bother me that his daughter and her music were central to the film - I thought she was pretty good at both acting and singing honestly.
 

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I get what you're saying. I guess I feel that, even accepting for the era, it still feels like it doesn't have many redeeming qualities. I think I would've been just as disappointed in 1968 as now. I don't compare Psycho or Rear Window to LA Confidential, Parasite, etc. but, despite the old school Hollywood aspects, they still have a lot of power years later. Ditto for the original silent Nosferatu.

I also realize now I'm not a huge Polanski fan - Chinatown is another one, that while I think it's a good movie, I don't think it's as good as its reputation.


Yeah, I went in cold, not knowing anything. So I was very charmed by the premise and how it unfolded.
I think it's very cool how we're rooting for him though we catch on to his secret and then the movie flips back to the traditional mode of rooting against him in the final 1/3rd.
Like you, I was not a fan of the exact same M. Night films except for this one.

These days I try not to read about stuff ahead of time and I enjoy things a lot more. After the fact, I've read a lot of people complaining but it didn't bother me that his daughter and her music were central to the film - I thought she was pretty good at both acting and singing honestly.
I think the biggest problem with Rosemary’s Baby is it is over reliant on the implication of the story. For another slightly more update approach watch The Sentinel from 1977. In the era of Rosemary’s Baby they didn’t show anything.
 
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I’m still 1 episode behind on the Penguin but it has been fantastic. I hope there is more story to tell beyond season 1 (heard rumors it was supposed to just be a 1 season run).

Also, I grew up when wrestling was huge and toys/merchandise was everywhere but somehow never got into it myself. Watched Mr McMahon and man oh man did I miss a lot of stuff as a kid. Wrestling fans I highly recommend, and even if you aren’t like me, it was very entertaining.
 

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I’m still 1 episode behind on the Penguin but it has been fantastic. I hope there is more story to tell beyond season 1 (heard rumors it was supposed to just be a 1 season run).

Also, I grew up when wrestling was huge and toys/merchandise was everywhere but somehow never got into it myself. Watched Mr McMahon and man oh man did I miss a lot of stuff as a kid. Wrestling fans I highly recommend, and even if you aren’t like me, it was very entertaining.
I think it leads j to the next Batman movie so not sure if it will make sense to have future seasons.
 
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I think it leads j to the next Batman movie so not sure if it will make sense to have future seasons.
The holy grail of modern IP content would be making a compelling and highly watched villain tv series that drives into the next Batman movie over and over again. A true double dip of content that multiplies the success of both home and theater viewing.

Hopefully they have a great Condiment King, Polka-Dot Man, or Penny Plunderer TV series ready to be green lit.
 

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The holy grail of modern IP content would be making a compelling and highly watched villain tv series that drives into the next Batman movie over and over again. A true double dip of content that multiplies the success of both home and theater viewing.

Hopefully they have a great Condiment King, Polka-Dot Man, or Penny Plunderer TV series ready to be green lit.
I'm not a big Batman guy or DC guy for that matter. I'll watch the movies that interest me so I've seen the Polka Dot Man in the Suicide Squad but are those other two actual villains? Condiment King?
 

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I'm not a big Batman guy or DC guy for that matter. I'll watch the movies that interest me so I've seen the Polka Dot Man in the Suicide Squad but are those other two actual villains? Condiment King?
Both real, both guys that would only show up in something like Suicide Squad or Peacemaker because they’re so silly.

The Penny Peddler is kind of a 1 issue only character because he got sentenced to the death penalty at the end of it and was effectively never heard from again. :laugh:

Penny Peddler does weird live on though, the batcave is often depicted with a giant penny trophy from their encounter, which you only really know if you’re a completionist Batman fan or you google “Who are the dumbest Batman villains?”

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Both real, both guys that would only show up in something like Suicide Squad or Peacemaker because they’re so silly.

The Penny Peddler is kind of a 1 issue only character because he got sentenced to the death penalty at the end of it and was effectively never heard from again. :laugh:

Penny Peddler does weird live on though, the batcave is often depicted with a giant penny trophy from their encounter, which you only really know if you’re a completionist Batman fan or you google “Who are the dumbest Batman villains?”

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I hope DC makes a Dogwelder series.

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Just watched it

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I didn't love the creative choice at the end. I think that pushed him too far over the line to monster and undid a lot of what the series strove for. I understand the decision and in some way it makes sense but it didn't have to be that dark. Just my thought. At least they didn't make him drink kerosene and screw up which Greek myth they were referencing and defraud me with a "Lovecraftian" hype.
 

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