Combined Goalie Discussion thread

[ITM]

Admittedly, well beyond expectations.

But…Those expectations remain flint like the whole way through and into the second round.

 

[crump]

Kudos to the 2 goalies and coach Sanford. So far so good.

 

[Spargon]

I've seen a lot of people saying that "no one thought this tandem would be good" given their struggles the last year or two - the moment we signed Samsonov, I started to feel really good about our goaltending. If you're rebuilding a tandem from the ground up, getting two young-ish but experienced goaltenders that have proven they can play well at this level is just about the best you can ask for - especially given that we gained assets in doing it.

Was there risk? Sure. But in my view, these moves were incredibly strategic and opportunistic from the start - and yet most of the fan base lambasted Dubas for being reckless and throwing caution to the wind.

The early returns of this bet are better than even our management could've expected, but given the circumstances, this was a masterclass from the start. Kudos to the whole management team - they stepped up at a time when it mattered most

It's weird, fans love to whine about the "old boys club" and how the same people are recycled over and over. Yet ever since the Leafs hired Dubas and even Keefe, some fans shit on every single move they do and amplify any mistakes as franchise destroying blunders like we have Ballard again.

Then those same people who hate old boys will then demand Dubas get fired and likely want some old recycled garbage GM who would do a worse job but has the name.

Dubas took a risk sure but I guarantee he knew what he was doing and was likely pumped when he scored both of these guys and even more pumped its working out like he hoped

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Comparing goalies on different teams playing different systems is completely pointless.

As is comparing forwards and defense men, no?

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

Thats a good point. We did change the goalie coach. Ranford(think that's his name), was poached from the Nucks, who has one of the best goalie development team in the NHL.
Murray just needs to stay healthy.
Sammy and Kally are someone who needs tips here and there to round out their games.


Pretty sure it is from the Marlies where he doesnt need to stress eat. And that 13 is Willie, right.

Sanford

I mean I wouldn't mind Billy ranford as the goalie coach

 

[Judas Tavares]

It's weird, fans love to whine about the "old boys club" and how the same people are recycled over and over. Yet ever since the Leafs hired Dubas and even Keefe, some fans shit on every single move they do and amplify any mistakes as franchise destroying blunders like we have Ballard again.

Then those same people who hate old boys will then demand Dubas get fired and likely want some old recycled garbage GM who would do a worse job but has the name.

Dubas took a risk sure but I guarantee he knew what he was doing and was likely pumped when he scored both of these guys and even more pumped its working out like he hoped

I've said this a few times, but I was surprised at the uproar when Dubas was chosen over Hunter considering we had been just going through the good old boys club in terms of GMs with no success. You'd think there would have been a demand for a breath of fresh air. Nope. This board misses Lou and wants Trotz! Recycle, reuse, reduce.

 

[LeafChief]

Been pleased with Murray so far this year but tonight isn't a good one for him.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Been pleased with Murray so far this year but tonight isn't a good one for him.

His only off night so far this year, in particular the fourth goal flub.

Considering how often he has saved the team, especially in the Dallas game; it was proper justice that the team backed him up tonight with an OT win against the Flames.

 

[Menzinger]

Been pleased with Murray so far this year but tonight isn't a good one for him.

Weird night for both teams goaltending

 

[crump]

This week: Ducks on Tuesday, NYR on Thursday, Caps on Saturday

Do you give Samsonov Tuesday and Saturday so he can play against his old team again. (He’s already beaten them)

Let Murray get back on the horse after a meh game?

 

[saltming]

IIRC the technical flaw in Murray's style was weakness in East west plays and that was evident lastnight.
That said his previous games he was much better on similar plays, so here's hoping it's just a little more practice to gain more consistency in that area.

 

[ACC1224]

All goalies have off nights, his was particularly brutal. Key is not to make it a habit.

This week: Ducks on Tuesday, NYR on Thursday, Caps on Saturday

Do you give Samsonov Tuesday and Saturday so he can play against his old team again. (He’s already beaten them)

Let Murray get back on the horse after a meh game?

I think they just need to rotate while both are healthy.

 

[Buds17]

This week: Ducks on Tuesday, NYR on Thursday, Caps on Saturday

Do you give Samsonov Tuesday and Saturday so he can play against his old team again. (He’s already beaten them)

Let Murray get back on the horse after a meh game?

I'd support doing this.

 

[LeafChief]

This week: Ducks on Tuesday, NYR on Thursday, Caps on Saturday

Do you give Samsonov Tuesday and Saturday so he can play against his old team again. (He’s already beaten them)

Let Murray get back on the horse after a meh game?

I'd say a rotation makes a lot of sense. Keep both as healthy as possible. Both playing well. Samsonov Tuesday. Murray Thursday. Samsonov Saturday.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'd say a rotation makes a lot of sense. Keep both as healthy as possible. Both playing well. Samsonov Tuesday. Murray Thursday. Samsonov Saturday.

+1

 

[colchar]

It's weird, fans love to whine about the "old boys club" and how the same people are recycled over and over. Yet ever since the Leafs hired Dubas and even Keefe, some fans shit on every single move they do and amplify any mistakes as franchise destroying blunders like we have Ballard again.

Then those same people who hate old boys will then demand Dubas get fired and likely want some old recycled garbage GM who would do a worse job but has the name.

Normally those are not the same people, as you erroneously claim here.

Dubas took a risk sure but I guarantee he knew what he was doing and was likely pumped when he scored both of these guys and even more pumped its working out like he hoped

He did not know what he was doing. He gambled. He took a risk. Right now it is paying off, but do not pretend this was part of some sort of plan from Kyle Dubious.

 

[genk]

Normally those are not the same people, as you erroneously claim here.





He did not know what he was doing. He gambled. He took a risk. Right now it is paying off, but do not pretend this was part of some sort of plan from Kyle Dubious.

How the f*** could you possibly know what kind of research the Leafs did about their backend? It is astronomically hilarious that you think this, and quite frankly, says everything anyone needs to know about you.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I'd say a rotation makes a lot of sense. Keep both as healthy as possible. Both playing well. Samsonov Tuesday. Murray Thursday. Samsonov Saturday.

The one issue with rotating them every other game is it could result in neither guy getting in a groove by playing multiple games in a row. I know it worked last week in the back to back shutouts, but it could also be a reason Murray's timing/reads were off last night since he didn't play immediately after his shutout.

 

[willmma]

Comparing performance between last season and this season: Record, GF/GP, GA/GP, SV% per month


[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]21-22[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]22-23[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]GP[/TD]
[TD]Record[/TD]
[TD]GF[/TD]
[TD]GA[/TD]
[TD]SV%[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]GP[/TD]
[TD]Record[/TD]
[TD]GF[/TD]
[TD]GA[/TD]
[TD]SV%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]April[/TD]

[TD]

15​

[/TD]

[TD]8-5-1[/TD]

[TD]

4.20​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.27​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.898​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]March[/TD]

[TD]

14​

[/TD]

[TD]8-5-1[/TD]

[TD]

3.93​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.71​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.878​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]February[/TD]

[TD]

12​

[/TD]

[TD]7-4-1[/TD]

[TD]

4.25​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.42​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.885​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]January[/TD]

[TD]

11​

[/TD]

[TD]8-2-1[/TD]

[TD]

4.36​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.18​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.891​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]December[/TD]

[TD]

7​

[/TD]

[TD]4-2-1[/TD]

[TD]

4.57​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.86​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.894​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]

4​

[/TD]

[TD]3-0-1[/TD]

[TD]

4.25​

[/TD]

[TD]

2.00​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.931​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]November[/TD]

[TD]

14​

[/TD]

[TD]12-2-0[/TD]

[TD]

3.21​

[/TD]

[TD]

1.43​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.955​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]

15​

[/TD]

[TD]11-1-3[/TD]

[TD]

3.27​

[/TD]

[TD]

2.13​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.923​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]October[/TD]

[TD]

9​

[/TD]

[TD]4-4-1[/TD]

[TD]

2.33​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.22​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.902​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]

10​

[/TD]

[TD]4-4-2[/TD]

[TD]

2.70​

[/TD]

[TD]

3.00​

[/TD]

[TD]

0.895​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total[/TD]

[TD]

82​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]

29​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

sv% in November last season was through the roof

GF were under 3 in both Octobers. under 4 in both Novembers. over 4 in both Decembers (so far).

Bad sv% in after November last season resulted in horrible ga/g. But the scoring kept the record up. 8-2-1 in January despite 3.18 ga/g and 0.891 sv%

Hope to keep the high scoring but also with better sv% for the remainder of this season

 

[Sypher04]

Normally those are not the same people, as you erroneously claim here.





He did not know what he was doing. He gambled. He took a risk. Right now it is paying off, but do not pretend this was part of some sort of plan from Kyle Dubious.

Lmao why are you acting like just because something has risk involved that the result being positive can’t be the plan?

Is your suggestion actually that Dubas acquired them fully expecting mediocre play? With his job on the line no less?

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Lmao why are you acting like just because something has risk involved that the result being positive can’t be the plan?

Is your suggestion actually that Dubas acquired them fully expecting mediocre play? With his job on the line no less?

He knew the next GM would be stoked about that third round pick.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

2 straight shutouts for Sammy!

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

We love Samsonov, don’t we folks?

 

[kk87]

If this keeps up, what do we do in the offseason? If Samsonov puts up a .920+ this season as a 25 year old, there's no way you can let go of that... but then again, if Murray can reclaim the sauce that won him two cups you want to hold onto that too. Obviously still early, but this could be a serious embarrassment of riches

 

[Namikaze Minato]

If this keeps up, what do we do in the offseason? If Samsonov puts up a .920+ this season as a 25 year old, there's no way you can let go of that... but then again, if Murray can reclaim the sauce that won him two cups you want to hold onto that too. Obviously still early, but this could be a serious embarrassment of riches

We trade them each for Bedard and Michkov, bring up Woll and Petruzzelli and watch them put up even better numbers, of course!