Combined Goalie Discussion thread

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I'd like to see what Petruzzelli could do. One issue is he needs to be signed and the team is at the max of 50 contracts right now. Another issue is he only currently has 33 games of professional experience under his belt. But he has always had solid numbers, and I remember one argument on here last year against calling up Woll were his numbers weren't deserving of a chance. So at least Petruzzelli has the numbers, but not the contract nor experience. I don't think it would hurt to try, unless the team would think he would be severely worse than what Kallgren is providing.
I was going to post the same thing, got to the bottom and you’ve already typed it out.

If we can move a contract somehow, sign Petruzzelli and give him a game. He’s been very good behind a not so good defense in the Marlies.
 
Everyone realizes that Kallgren is our #4G correct? Woll was supposed to be #3 but also is injured.

On paper, maybe. I don’t think there’s a lot of daylight separating Kallgren and Woll to be honest.

Woll’s development has just been so flat over the years. Even longer term projects from around his draft year like Swayman and Skinner have started progressing in the league. It feels like Woll’s just settling into the AHL level. He’s also a year younger than Samsonov so at some point you’ll figure they’ll probably just flush him.
 
I'd like to see what Petruzzelli could do. One issue is he needs to be signed and the team is at the max of 50 contracts right now. Another issue is he only currently has 33 games of professional experience under his belt. But he has always had solid numbers, and I remember one argument on here last year against calling up Woll were his numbers weren't deserving of a chance. So at least Petruzzelli has the numbers, but not the contract nor experience. I don't think it would hurt to try, unless the team would think he would be severely worse than what Kallgren is providing.

Wasn’t Petruzzelli beyond terrible in preseason?
 

1. Joonas Korpisalo, Columbus Blue Jackets

Age: 28
Stats: 1 GP, 5.01 GAA, .889 SV%, .900 SV% HDscA
Contract: Pending UFA, $1.3 million AAV|
Acquisition Cost: Medium


Korpisalo worked his way back from offseason surgery to make his season debut in his native Finland on Saturday as part of the NHL’s Global Series. The Blue Jackets are one of a few teams with a goalie surplus; Columbus is only of one two teams (Ottawa) carrying three NHL goalies on their roster right now. We know prized prospect Daniil Tarasov isn’t going anywhere. Tarasov signed a three-year, one-way deal this past offseason. He could be sent to AHL Cleveland because he remains waiver exempt this season. Sources say Korpisalo was offered up to teams last summer for a mid-to-late round pick. He is again a pending UFA. All of that has me wondering … given the tough start to Elvis Merzlikins’ season, and what appears to be an emotional rollercoaster for him game-to-game in body language, is it possible the Blue Jackets would also consider moving Merzlikins? It’s possible, but perhaps that term and contract would scare off a team like Toronto right now, where Korpisalo is a better fit for a host of reasons.

2. James Reimer, San Jose Sharks

Age: 34
Stats: 9 GP, 2.88 GAA, .910 SV%, .780 SV% on HDscA
Contract: Pending UFA, $2.25 million AAV|
Acquisition Cost: Medium


Surprise, surprise. Reimer is off to another excellent start this season with a .910 save percentage and solid goals saved above expected numbers, despite playing with an inferior team in front of him. That’s all Reimer does is play solid. He’s one of the most consistent goalies in an extremely volatile position. Reimer has never had a full season save percentage below .900 and his career average is .913, well above league average over that span, which generally hovers somewhere around .904 to .907. He’s just solid. We know that the Sharks will soon be in sell-down mode, with GM Mike Grier open to making changes. Reimer is a pending free agent, so unless they’re planning on re-signing him, he is eminently available. There’s just that one sticking point with Reimer: his past history in Toronto. He was the guy in net for the Game 7 collapse against Boston in 2013. That should be ancient history, but it’s probably enough to keep Leafs fans (and the front office) awake at night, which might make him a tougher sell.

3. Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles Kings

Age: 36
Stats: 10 GP, 3.34 GAA, .890 SV%, .900 SV% on HDscA
Contract: Pending UFA, $5.8 million AAV
Acquisition Cost: Medium


This two-time Stanley Cup winner and lifelong Los Angeles King is closing in on 750 games with the franchise. He was excellent last season with a .910 save percentage in a big bounce back year. Quick has probably been a little better this season than his overall numbers would indicate, posting a career-high save percentage (small sample size) against high-danger scoring chances. Would the Kings move him? The complicating factor is Cal Petersen has really struggled to find his game these last two seasons – and he’s in the first year of a $15 million contract. If Petersen and Pheonix Copley, one of the better third goalies out there, could carry the ball – then it’s a possibility. Kyle Dubas and Rob Blake have made deals before. Quick has the pedigree and he wants to win. He is the ultimate competitor. Quick does not have any no-trade protection, but he might be able to get a good lay of the land from his brother-in-law, Maple Leafs pro scout Matt Moulson. What would Quick cost? That’s the interesting question. Would Nick Robertson and a third-round pick get it done? Would that be enough to entice the Kings to move one of their franchise pillars in a year with increased expectations? Maybe not.

4. Dan Vladar, Calgary Flames

Age: 25
Stats: 3 GP, 3.82 GAA, .865 SV%, .846 SV% on HDscA
Contract: This season at $750,000 AAV, followed by 2-year extension at $2.2 million AAV
Acquisition Cost: High


Vladar is on the path to being a No. 1 netminder in the NHL. This is his second full NHL season backing up Jacob Markstrom in Calgary and it’s easy to forget how young Vladar really is. Carter Hart is considered one of the best “young” goaltenders in the league, yet Vladar is less than one calendar year older at 25. The Flames saw quality progression in Vladar’s game and inked him to a two-year extension just a couple weeks back. That has given Calgary the ultimate flexibility. Vladar is well positioned to continue to play more games to take some of the workload off Markstrom’s plate. But he’s also locked in at a very reasonable salary cap number, which makes him a valuable trade commodity if other teams share the belief that he is ready to be a starting goalie at some point during that contract. Vladar would also be the most expensive commodity on this board. That’s because he fits Toronto’s age scheme perfectly. And this season, he is playing on a league minimum contract. The Leafs would be in a great spot moving forward with Samsonov and Vladar linked up as a tandem, if they were able to pull something like that off.

5. Anton Khudobin, Dallas Stars

Age: 36
Stats: (in AHL Texas) 5 GP, 3.04 GAA, .905 SV%
Contract: Pending UFA, $3.33 million AAV
Acquisition Cost: Low


Khudobin is the easy answer for a down and dirty solution that could spell the Leafs for a few weeks, or longer, if need be. He’s been parked in the AHL for most of the last year as a salary cap casualty. When the Stars lost Jake Oettinger to injury last week, they weren’t able to recall Khudobin because they couldn’t afford him. The acquisition cost would be quite literally nothing, the Stars would be thrilled to have his $2.2 million in dead cap money off their books. The Leafs could send back a few minor league contracts back to Dallas to free up some much-needed contract space. The problem with Khudobin would be – what will happen if both Samsonov and Murray are healthy again? If Jake Muzzin is also healthy again (no guarantee), then the Leafs will have the same problem as Dallas, and they won’t have the cap space to be able to afford Khudobin’s dead cap penalty if he’s down with the Marlies. Is there a win-win, saw-off point that exists for the Stars where they retain some portion of Khudobin’s salary? That would lessen their dead cap space problem (not totally resolve it) and lessen the blow for the Leafs if they have to send him down.

Honorable Mention: Alex Nedeljkovic, Detroit Red Wings
 
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Ouch.

Bring back Jack ?
Oilers retain 66% ? :popcorn:
 
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Murray looks like his strong pre-season self. The only time he's looked poor quality was the second half of the Montreal game and even then it was an overall okay game.

The main positive recently is with Samsonov also coming back to full health plus Murray's recent strong performances, goaltending has shifted from crisis levels to a team strength
 
Murray with another solid game with timely saves to keep the team in the game to grab the point. If he can just stay healthy from here on out...

There is one thing I have to get used to with him -- his bulky equipment. He looks like he has a fat suit on. You notice in particular when he is down on his stomach, it feels it takes him a couple extra seconds to get to his skates because of the equipment bogging him down.
 
So far Murray is solid and I like his play better that samsonov. He is so calm in the net.
To quote what my girlfriend said to me lastnight, "keep it up Matt". Which was disturbing since my name isn't Matt
 
Murray has already done more than could be expected. His play earned them 5 points in the 4 games he’s started. Even last night against Buffalo he got them 2 points.

Im not sure how long it will last they way gives up rebounds and not controlling the puck, but so far he’s been good.
 
There is one thing I have to get used to with him -- his bulky equipment. He looks like he has a fat suit on. You notice in particular when he is down on his stomach, it feels it takes him a couple extra seconds to get to his skates because of the equipment bogging him down.
that’s something I picked up on too. A bit of a throwback to the Garth snow days of goaltending.
im sure (I hope) it’s within the legal range of how big a goalies gear can be.

that being said, matt Murray has been an absolute boss these last few games. If this is the goalie we’re getting then I’m all for it. obviously the injuries will be a concern, but it’s now looking like our 1-2 goalie punch (when Ilya is back) is a huge improvement over what we’ve had these last couple years. E
 
Samsonov: 6-2-0, .921
Murray: 2-1-1, .913
Kallgren: 2-2-3, .893

So far the consensus from many that the new guys will look better on a better team and that health is the big worry seems to be playing out,

I'll feel a bit better if Woll comes back playing well and/or the Leafs pick up another goaltending depth option.
 
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Murray has already done more than could be expected. His play earned them 5 points in the 4 games he’s started. Even last night against Buffalo he got them 2 points.

Im not sure how long it will last they way gives up rebounds and not controlling the puck, but so far he’s been good.

Let's not forget what happened to Soup in the 2nd half of the season last year. The tandem is looking good but we need to find out if one or both both can do it over a full season.
 
Let's not forget what happened to Soup in the 2nd half of the season last year. The tandem is looking good but we need to find out if one or both both can do it over a full season.
Soup is just carrying on with that. His .872sv% at his cap hit is bad. Skinner is looking like the #1 in oil country right now. I how he can bounce back, but I don't see any reason to think he will
 
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Let's not forget what happened to Soup in the 2nd half of the season last year. The tandem is looking good but we need to find out if one or both both can do it over a full season.

To be fair, Murray has always been a good goalie with good fundamentals and surprisingly good athleticism for his size. He is literally the prototypical goaltender and aside from injuries, compounded with a possible existential crisis when his dad passed away, he’s been among the better goalies in the NHL during his career.

Campbell had raw potential but always lacked the mental strength to be a quality goaltender. He turned it around when acquired by LA and had him working with a sports therapist. But his failures compound into long stretches of bad play as it weighs on his mind.

While it’s impossible to assume Murray will keep up his play, it’s more likely to expect him to stay good consistently than Campbell.
 
Has Matt Murray's glove hand always been this unreliable? I've noticed he can't even catch a little pop-fly above his head. Still he saved the day last night during the penalty kill.

He almost gets himself in more trouble doing too much. Saw this last year in his game against the Leafs. That 2nd Buffalo goal probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't panicked a little not knowing where the puck was. That's probably the time to rely on your defensemen to cover or clear a loose puck.

Being a huge goalie is such a positive attribute. In tight games where open or unrushed shots are exceedingly rare, these goalies become very hard to beat.
 
Has Matt Murray's glove hand always been this unreliable? I've noticed he can't even catch a little pop-fly above his head. Still he saved the day last night during the penalty kill.

He almost gets himself in more trouble doing too much. Saw this last year in his game against the Leafs. That 2nd Buffalo goal probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't panicked a little not knowing where the puck was. That's probably the time to rely on your defensemen to cover or clear a loose puck.

Being a huge goalie is such a positive attribute. In tight games where open or unrushed shots are exceedingly rare, these goalies become very hard to beat.
From doing a little bit of reading on the Pens forum, it seems high glove has always been an issue for him.
 
both Sammy and Matt have played very well, considering the doomsday scenario, many made our new tandem out to be.

IMO, this is the best our Leaf net has looked in quite some time… regardless of how awesome Jack played at times.
 
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Has Matt Murray's glove hand always been this unreliable? I've noticed he can't even catch a little pop-fly above his head. Still he saved the day last night during the penalty kill.

He almost gets himself in more trouble doing too much. Saw this last year in his game against the Leafs. That 2nd Buffalo goal probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't panicked a little not knowing where the puck was. That's probably the time to rely on your defensemen to cover or clear a loose puck.

Being a huge goalie is such a positive attribute. In tight games where open or unrushed shots are exceedingly rare, these goalies become very hard to beat.

I don't remember him looking this big in Pittsburgh but he's almost like a J-S Giguere out there these days.

His glove hand always looks like it's unnaturally rotated, like up and in instead of out.
 

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